Larry Kart Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 More on the Wynton-Larry Ochs affair: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/blog/2009/dec/21/jazz-purist-found-wynton-marsalis An act of multiple serio-comic ugliness on W.M.'s part. Quote
fasstrack Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 (edited) More on the Wynton-Larry Ochs affair: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/blog/2009/dec/21/jazz-purist-found-wynton-marsalis 'Credit goes to our friends at El País newspaper', :g Edited September 17, 2011 by fasstrack Quote
Larry Kart Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 Don Rickles alway gave me the creeps, except for for his nice work playing a thief on an episode of the Dick Van Dyke Show. To even mention him in the same breath as Lenny Bruce is mind-boggling to me. Even in Rickles' salad days, a vein of ass-kissing sentimentality was visible in him. I know -- I had to review the m.f., and I saw Bruce in his prime. Quote
JSngry Posted September 17, 2011 Author Report Posted September 17, 2011 Speaking strictly in terms of "danger". Ass-kissing sentimentality (which certainly got worse as the years went by) is a danger if its own, especially when mixed with throbbing veins int he temple. Quote
fasstrack Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 Wynton and Don. I guess I'm 2 for 2 now in the majority opinion department..... Speaking strictly in terms of "danger". Ass-kissing sentimentality (which certainly got worse as the years went by) is a danger if its own, especially when mixed with throbbing veins int he temple. Nobody beats Dick Cavett for throbbing veins. And he's a WASP. For Chrissakes..... Quote
fasstrack Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 Don Rickles alway gave me the creeps, except for for his nice work playing a thief on an episode of the Dick Van Dyke Show. To even mention him in the same breath as Lenny Bruce is mind-boggling to me. Even in Rickles' salad days, a vein of ass-kissing sentimentality was visible in him. I know -- I had to review the m.f., and I saw Bruce in his prime. The sad irony IMO is that in the end Lenny Bruce took himself much more seriously. Quote
JSngry Posted September 17, 2011 Author Report Posted September 17, 2011 Nobody beats Dick Cavett for throbbing veins. And he's a WASP. For Chrissakes..... Quiet as it was kept, Cavett's house band for his late-60s/early 70s NYC show was probably the best of the bunch...George Duvivier, Eddie Daniels, Bill Watrous, I forget who else,. Bobby Rosengarden, of course, the leader...but it was a tasty, swinging outfit that didn't go in for all the flagwavers and pyrotechnics of the other talk show bands. Don't think they ever recorded, though, too bad. Quote
Larry Kart Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 Don Rickles alway gave me the creeps, except for for his nice work playing a thief on an episode of the Dick Van Dyke Show. To even mention him in the same breath as Lenny Bruce is mind-boggling to me. Even in Rickles' salad days, a vein of ass-kissing sentimentality was visible in him. I know -- I had to review the m.f., and I saw Bruce in his prime. The sad irony IMO is that in the end Lenny Bruce took himself much more seriously. I agree about Lenny after his legal troubles started, for the most part, but even toward the end he was still capable of remarkable things on the right night. Quote
jeffcrom Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 Here's my profound contribution to this discussion: drunks keep mistaking me for Eric Clapton. It happened again tonight in New Orleans. At least this guy didn't insist on having his picture made with me, like the last one. It may be time to shave the beard. Come to think of it, I look a little like Allen Lowe, too. Quote
7/4 Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 Come to think of it, I look a little like Allen Lowe, too. Loose the hair curlers and bunny slippers then. Quote
.:.impossible Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 So... do or don't? I think that's what we're all trying to determine. Quote
fasstrack Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 Dick Cavett and Woody Allen had great chemistry. Cavett was as good a straight man as Carson. Woody made him naughty, though. A lot of their misbehavior can now be seen on youtube. Since Jim mentioned the band, there was one bit Watrous et. al. were in where Woody was going to play a blues with the band. Naturally there was about 10 minutes of hilarious business before he played a note, including some priceless ad-lib non-sequitors assembling the horn. Finally, a la Pete Barbutti, he got in about 35 seconds of music. Maybe someone could put it up. I have no working computer, only a cell phone, or I would, it's hilarious. Quote
fasstrack Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 Jeff, you big dope. Keep your mouth shut, take requests for Toad, After Midnight, and Bell Bottom Blues. And watch the cash roll in. And, um, buddy, could I hold $20? Why? I'm giving to one of Ronald MacDold's charities. Yeah, yeah. THAT'S the ticket... Quote
cih Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 Here's my profound contribution to this discussion: drunks keep mistaking me for Eric Clapton. It happened again tonight in New Orleans. At least this guy didn't insist on having his picture made with me, like the last one. It may be time to shave the beard. Come to think of it, I look a little like Allen Lowe, too. Well - I was playing some James booker at work on Wednesday, and a girl came in and started feigning air guitar - I said "you know it's a piano don't you?" - she said she thought it was Eric Clapton, or Chris Rea. Quote
AllenLowe Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 Jeff - I've always thought of you as Everyman. Now, if I rob a gas station in Georgia, I can call and turn you in.Larry - my favorite line in that Rickles/Dick Van Dyke Episode (Rickes plays a thief who's in prison, named Lyle): Lyle: Well, the prison Psychiatrist finally figured out what my problem is. Rob: Great, what is it? Lyle; I like to steal. Quote
Leeway Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 Did this thread get merged with the free association thread? Quote
alankin Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 Did this thread get merged with the free association thread? The thread title feels like free association to me. Quote
fasstrack Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 Rickles a decent straight actor. He proudly displays his Oscar in his Lake Tahoe home. The film was Ass-kissing Vulnerability. In it he recreated his well-loved 'Billy Sherbet' character. Filming slowed down when a set doctor was called after repeated headaches from eating too fast, and also when Rickles' lips froze together. Set laudry billed handsomely for overtime for removal from Mr. Rickles' shirts and pants of 'funny blue stains'. The situation was resolved when set hanger-on Monte Rock III generously made wardrobe loans, though it is unclear how Rickles looked in Chinchilla. Mr. Rickles' legendary friendship with funnyman Bob Newhart was also reportedly strained by 'Don always crapping up my bathroom after eating a gallon and charming his way in, according to sources. Rickles is now resting comfortably at the Betty Ford Clinic, where Bullets Durgham brought him for 'withdrawal from Red Dye #2'. Updates as they come in... Hey, how's THAT for free associating? Quote
Van Basten II Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 Did this thread get merged with the free association thread? I read the whole not because I really cared that much about the original subject but because I was wondering how it ended up on a discussion about freakin' Don Rickles. Regarding the original subject, what is it with all those duets that popular artists do near the end of their career, should be a law prohibiting this because most of them are either crap or at best forgettable. Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 what is it with all those duets that popular artists do near the end of their career... Sometimes their management do them after the end of their lives...expect volume 2 sometime mid century.should be a law prohibiting this Can we throw in Xmas discs and 8 disc box sets where 7 discs are different mixes of disc 1? Quote
Van Basten II Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 what is it with all those duets that popular artists do near the end of their career... Sometimes their management do them after the end of their lives...expect volume 2 sometime mid century. should be a law prohibiting this Can we throw in Xmas discs and 8 disc box sets where 7 discs are different mixes of disc 1? Deal. Quote
fasstrack Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 Wow. You guys can hardly wait for the axe to fall. I'm going to write in your names next time I see openings on the Supreme Court.The ARKANSAS Supreme Court. I'd hate to read your comments re the end of MY career. That is if I had one. I'll let you know when fortunes change, that way you can have ample time to aim the poison darts. Walter Winchell, rest easy. Free-range vitriol is alive and well... Quote
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