jazz that sucks--kurt goes off on jazz

[alocispepraluger102]

modern musicians have more musical competition than ever, even if it isn't 'live', not to speak of the public's other distractions.

music is too often, especially with me, relegated to the 4 or 5th subject of my multitasking schizoid attention span,

and yet, i demand exciting, demanding, powerful, complicated cerebral music.

were music made no more carefully than many of us listen to it, it would be even crappier than it is now.

thanks for the perspective noj.

Edited September 7, 2011 by alocispepraluger102

[Noj]

Sorry to have rambled a bit. In short, Rosenwinkle and Payton would be better served by letting their music do the talking. If they don't suck, those whose tastes don't suck will get it. Who do they play for, anyway? Who are they telling? Assume the audience knows. Expect them to.

[ep1str0phy]

I honestly think that Rosenwinkel's words have more to do with noticing a lack of commitment and practice in apparently professional situations than they do with genre or style. What compelled Rosenwinkel to call lord knows who out, who knows. None of these problems are inherently new, though I do agree that it's useful to reevaluate one's own performance praxis every so often (i.e., are these arrangements clear? Have we worked out how to end a song cleanly? Do we know these changes well enough to open it up and not get extremely lost?)

What does suck is couching one's sentiments in salacious language and assuming that people won't take it the wrong way. People have FREAKED OUT because the very notion that "jazz sucks" (regardless of the intent of that message) opens up any number of wounds and insecurities. Rosenwinkel's tweets have forced people to voice opinions--often negative--intrinsically connected to their own respective beliefs, rather than calling on people to address any overlying problem or mass cultural concern. One thing is for sure: this whole thing right here--this is not the way to solve any problems.

[RDK]

Jazz music is so unpopular/under-appreciated these days that I have a hard time believing that, "sucks" or not, jazz musicians aren't at least playing 'cause they're passionate about it.

[ep1str0phy]

EXACTLY. People will always operate at different levels of development, but--at least in the circles I circle and center--it's difficult to question commitment. Practice is good, of course, but it takes courage and conviction to even attempt to treat this as a lifestyle these days. As serious as your life and all that.

[David Ayers]

Well if you watch the video I posted you'll see a trumpeter who literally sucks. It's not very funny.

[David Ayers]

it's difficult to question commitment

No, it's easy. People are often committed to the wrong things.

[RDK]

Well if you watch the video I posted you'll see a trumpeter who literally sucks. It's not very funny.

I showed the clip to my wife who, while finding it funny, responded with this: "Like everything Jazz, it's too long."

[David Ayers]

Well if you watch the video I posted you'll see a trumpeter who literally sucks. It's not very funny.

I showed the clip to my wife who, while finding it funny, responded with this: "Like everything Jazz, it's too long."

If only that weren't true!

[JSngry]

Show of hands for everybody whose wife has at least once complained that the sucking's lasting too long?