Alec Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 Reading about the "Bebop Spoken Here' set reminded me of another great set: Verve's Limited edition of Blues, Boogie, and Bop. Chock full of great sessions from the 40s, this seven CD set is housed in a plastic reproduction of a 1940s radio and features an 80-page booklet and the following artists: Albert Ammons, Helen Humes, Jay McShann, Jimmy Witherspoon, Walter Brown, Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson, Professor Longhair, Julia Lee, Myra Taylor and cornetist Rex Stewart, Buddy Rich's bebop big band, Cootie Williams , and previously unreleased alternate takes from Ammons, Humes, McShann, Vinson, Cootie. I mention this great set because there are 3 up on ebay now. (and no, I am not the seller nor do I know any of the sellers) Anyone else have this great set? Quote
jazzbo Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 This set is all that AND a bag of chips. Quote
king ubu Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 I think one of the three of them on ebay is just a one disc best off comp (Universal does this with each and every box set they release, it seems) The box looks very VERY interesting, though. Lon, I suppose you got it. Care to comment? Mention some highlights etc? ubu Quote
ghost of miles Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 I like the Cootie Williams and Buddy Rich big-band sides... there's some early Gator Jackson, if I recall correctly... and a lot of Helen Humes as well as Albert Ammons, including the only father/son session (that I know of) with Gene! Quote
jazzbo Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 It's a very good set, very well compiled and annotated. I'd list the highlights about the same as David would and I really have to dig this out and listen to the set again soon! Quote
king ubu Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 Well, thanks! Seems like one to look for! ubu Quote
mikeweil Posted January 14, 2004 Report Posted January 14, 2004 I bought this for the Eddie Vinson sides in the first place, but found out all the stuff in it is great, complete sessions, great notes, the Jay McShann stuff is very good. I recommend it, this is one that by far surpassed my expectations - it's a lot jazzier than the title suggests. As for the Vinson, that was his prime time and some of the best he ever did! This includes the complete 1940's Mercury sessions of: Albert Ammons Helen Humes Jay McShann Eddie Vinson Roy Byrd (= Professor Longhair, some of his rarest stuff) Julia Lee Myra Taylor Rex Stewart Buddy Rich Cootie Williams and two never before or after released Mary Lou Williams tracks, which are a gem! Quote
king ubu Posted January 14, 2004 Report Posted January 14, 2004 Thanks, Mike! I'm working on getting one... ubu Quote
medjuck Posted January 14, 2004 Report Posted January 14, 2004 I admit it: I bought it because I liked the box so much. I justified it by telling myself I had to have the Cootie Williams, Rex Stewart and Roy Byrd. Quote
mikeweil Posted January 15, 2004 Report Posted January 15, 2004 ... there's some early Gator Jackson, if I recall correctly... and a lot of Helen Humes as well The Willis Jackson sides are with the Cootie Williams Orchestra. The Helen Humes sides are great! One session with Walter Page and Jo Jones, one with Teddy Wilson! Quote
king ubu Posted March 11, 2004 Report Posted March 11, 2004 Just wanted to thank you all! My box just arrived! A new one, too! Thanks for mentioning it, claypone, thanks to all the others for wetting my appetite! I think I'm going to enjoy this one a lot! ubu Quote
ghost of miles Posted March 11, 2004 Report Posted March 11, 2004 Hey, I just remembered... this is "the box-set that nobody talks about." We're all in for it now! Quote
Alec Posted March 12, 2004 Author Report Posted March 12, 2004 Ubu-- I'm glad you like it. This is one of those sets that never fails to put a smile on my face, especially the "Cleanhead" sides. Quote
king ubu Posted March 12, 2004 Report Posted March 12, 2004 Thanks! I got it here, by the way: http://secure01.entertainme.com/servlet/Pr...rvlet?id=408008 In case anyone else might try his luck. It took far longer than the 5-10 days, but then they sent it with DHL, two days shipping from the US, which is pretty fast! And this seems to be the only site still listing it (I found it via google). By the way: the notes in the booklet mention another Mercury set, designed to their 50th anniversary. I cannot remember the title. It's said to be a fifties Mercury box - anyone has that one? And what's on it? Just samples of different albums, or complete sessions as on the forties set? (the complete sessions is maybe the biggest plus of it!) ubu Quote
J.A.W. Posted March 12, 2004 Report Posted March 12, 2004 By the way: the notes in the booklet mention another Mercury set, designed to their 50th anniversary. I cannot remember the title. It's said to be a fifties Mercury box - anyone has that one? And what's on it? Just samples of different albums, or complete sessions as on the forties set? (the complete sessions is maybe the biggest plus of it!) ubu Yep, there was (is?) another huge Mercury set, containing (if memory serves) 1945-1955 sessions. I'm at work now, but when I get home I'll post a few details here - if it doesn't slip my mind, that is... Quote
king ubu Posted March 12, 2004 Report Posted March 12, 2004 By the way: the notes in the booklet mention another Mercury set, designed to their 50th anniversary. I cannot remember the title. It's said to be a fifties Mercury box - anyone has that one? And what's on it? Just samples of different albums, or complete sessions as on the forties set? (the complete sessions is maybe the biggest plus of it!) ubu Yep, there was (is?) another huge Mercury set, containing (if memory serves) 1945-1955 sessions. I'm at work now, but when I get home I'll post a few details here - if it doesn't slip my mind, that is... Hans, it says in the notes it's just the fifties in that other box. Thanks in advance! ubu Quote
J.A.W. Posted March 12, 2004 Report Posted March 12, 2004 (edited) I was wrong: I was referring to the 8CD Mercury set The Mercury Blues 'n' Rhythm Story, 1945-1955, not another jazz-based box. This set includes sessions by Dinah Washington, Eddie Vinson, Gene Ammons, Jay McShann, Jimmy Witherspoon, Helen Humes, and many, many others, including blues and R&B artists. Edited March 12, 2004 by J.A.W. Quote
king ubu Posted March 12, 2004 Report Posted March 12, 2004 I was wrong: I was referring to the 8CD Mercury set The Mercury Blues 'n' Rhythm Story, 1945-1955, not another jazz-based box. This set includes sessions by Dinah Washington, Eddie Vinson, Gene Ammons, Jay McShann, Jimmy Witherspoon, Helen Humes, and many, many others, including blues and R&B artists. So this might include tracks also on the "Blues, Boogie, & Bop" set? Do you have it? Does it also have complete sessions? ubu Quote
J.A.W. Posted March 12, 2004 Report Posted March 12, 2004 (edited) I was wrong: I was referring to the 8CD Mercury set The Mercury Blues 'n' Rhythm Story, 1945-1955, not another jazz-based box. This set includes sessions by Dinah Washington, Eddie Vinson, Gene Ammons, Jay McShann, Jimmy Witherspoon, Helen Humes, and many, many others, including blues and R&B artists. So this might include tracks also on the "Blues, Boogie, & Bop" set? Do you have it? Does it also have complete sessions? ubu I believe it has some overlap. I have both sets, but comparing the tracklistings and session details would take hours... It does have complete sessions as far as I remember Edited March 12, 2004 by J.A.W. Quote
king ubu Posted March 12, 2004 Report Posted March 12, 2004 Here's the cover of that one: This looks really cool, too! Here's the tracklist (from Amazon): Disc:1 1. It's Just the Blues 2. Bedroom Blues - Albert Ammons 3. Buzz Me - Albert Ammons 4. My Baby Left Me - T-Bone Walker 5. Come Back to Me Baby Blues - T-Bone Walker 6. She Is Going to Ruin Me - T-Bone Walker 7. Joy Juice - Dinah Washington 8. If It's Good - Julia Lee 9. Show Me Missouri Blues - Julia Lee 10. Dream Lucky Blues - Julia Lee 11. Doin' the Boogie Woogie - Albert Ammons 12. Suitcase Blues - Albert Ammons 13. Tell Your Best Friend Nothing - Myra Taylor 14. Railroad Porter's Blues - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson 15. Gonna Send You Where I Got You From - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson 16. Hold That Money - Gene Ammons 17. I'm in My Sins This Morning - Myra Taylor 18. Booted - Myra Taylor 19. Long John Blues - Dinah Washington 20. (I'm A) Wonderin' Man - Big Bill Broonzy 21. I Love My Whiskey - Big Bill Broonzy 22. You've Been Mistreating Me - Big Bill Broonzy 23. I Stay Blue All the Time - Big Bill Broonzy 24. Water Coast Blues - Big Bill Broonzy 25. Shame on You Baby 26. I'm Not Satisfied Disc: 2 1. Mud Kickin' Woman 2. Evertime I Get to Drinkin' 3. Train Is Comin' 4. Question 5. I'm a Good Rockin' Daddy - Ray Snead 6. Drivin' Me Mad 7. Never Let Me Love 8. Train Time 9. Blue Evening 10. Get Back (Black, Brown and White) - Big Bill Broonzy 11. Willie Mae Blues - Big Bill Broonzy 12. I Know She Will - Big Bill Broonzy 13. Leavin' Day - Big Bill Broonzy 14. Southbound Train - Big Bill Broonzy 15. Tomorrow - Big Bill Broonzy 16. You Changed - Big Bill Broonzy 17. (I'm Gonna) Dig Myself a Hole - Robert Lockwood Jr. 18. Dust My Broom - Robert Lockwood Jr. 19. Glory for Man - Robert Lockwood Jr. 20. My Daily Wish - Robert Lockwood Jr. 21. No Mail Blues 22. You're Gonna Need My Help Someday 23. Ain't Nothing But a Child 24. Brown Skinned Woman 25. Hit the Road Again 26. Gin Drinkin' Baby 27. Leap Year Blues - Andrew Tibbs Disc: 3 1. Garfield Avenue Boogie - Jay McShann & His Orchestra 2. Crown Prince Blues - Jay McShann & His Orchestra 3. Shipyard Woman Blues - Jay McShann & His Orchestra 4. W.B. Blues - Walter Brown 5. Sloppy Drunk - Walter Brown 6. Lovin' a Beggar - Walter Brown 7. Miss Lollipop's Confession 8. Love Troubles 9. Baby Get Wise 10. Byrd's Blues - Roy Byrd & His Blues Jumpers 11. Her Mind Is Gone - Roy Byrd & His Blues Jumpers 12. Bald Head - Roy Byrd & His Blues Jumpers 13. Hey Now Baby - Roy Byrd & His Blues Jumpers 14. Oh Well - Roy Byrd & His Blues Jumpers 15. Boogie's the Thing - George Miller 16. She Won't Leave No More 17. Mercury Boogie - Hosie Dwine Craven 18. Hadacol Bounce - Roy Byrd & His Blues Jumpers 19. Longhair Stomp - Roy Byrd & His Blues Jumpers 20. Been Fooling Around - Roy Byrd & His Blues Jumpers 21. Between the Night and Day (In the Wee Wee Hours) - Roy Byrd & His Blues Jumpers 22. Streetwalkin' Daddy - Alma "The Lollipop Mama" Mondy 23. Job for a Jockey 24. Still My Little Angel Child 25. Cloudy Weather Blues - Preacher Lee Graves 26. Sixty Years and a Day - Preacher Lee Graves Disc: 4 1. Papa Said Yes, Mama Said No, No, No - Preacher Lee Graves 2. I'm from Texas - Preacher Lee Graves 3. Sittin' Here Wonderin' - Luther "Rocky" Stoneham 4. January 11, 1949 Blues - Luther "Rocky" Stoneham 5. I Don't Want No Woman - L.C. Williams 6. Louise - L.C. Williams 7. I Don't Like to Travel - L.C. Williams 8. Miss Georgia 9. She's Always on My Mind - Andrew "Smokey" Hogg 10. Dirty Mistreater 11. I'm Looking for My Baby - Andrew "Smokey" Hogg 12. (All Alone) I Sit and Cry 13. Six Foot Papa (I'm a Whole Lot of Woman) 14. Got a Mean Woman - John Hogg 15. Why Did You Leave Me? - John Hogg 16. Sad News from Korea - Lightnin' Hopkins 17. Let Me Fly Your Kite - Lightnin' Hopkins 18. Gone With the Wind - Lightnin' Hopkins 19. She's Almost Dead - Lightnin' Hopkins 20. (In Love With A) Married Woman Blues - Elmore Nixon 21. Playboy Blues - Elmore Nixon 22. Cave Man Blues - Elmore Nixon 23. Million Dollar Blues - Elmore Nixon 24. Ain't It a Shame - Lightnin' Hopkins 25. Crazy 'Bout My Baby - Lightnin' Hopkins Disc: 5 1. Ernestine - Jay McShann & His Sextette 2. Roll on Katy - Jay McShann & His Sextette 3. Voodoo Woman Blues - Jay McShann & His Sextette 4. I Want a Little Girl - Jimmy Witherspoon 5. Bar Fly Blues - Jimmy Witherspoon 6. Please Stop Playing Those Blues, Boy - Jimmy Witherspoon 7. All My Geets Are Gone - Jimmy Witherspoon 8. Strange Woman Blues - Jay McShann & His Orchestra 9. Bowlegged Boogie 10. He's the Man (He's Tall and Cool) 11. Red Light 12. When a Man Has the Blues - Smiley Turner 13. Lonely Boy Blues - Smiley Turner 14. Beer Drinking Baby - Billy Valentine 15. What's Good for One's Good for All 16. Kinda Sick, Mostly Worried 17. Hey Everybody 18. I'd Rather Be Like a Hermit - Frankie Ervin w/ Johnny Moore 19. High School Baby - Frankie Ervin w/ Johnny Moore 20. West Coast Lover - Big Jim Wynn 21. Dog House Blues - Big Jim Wynn 22. Just Kiss Me Once (And You'll Be Back) - Meredith Howard 23. Worrying Blues - Ike Lloyd 24. Boogie on the 88 - Ike Lloyd 25. I Only Want Your Love - Ike Lloyd 26. West Coast Blues - J.D. Edwards 27. Mama Does the Boogie (Washington Ave. Boogie) Disc: 6 1. Call Operator 210 - Johnny Otis 2. Baby Baby Blues - Johnny Otis 3. Gypsy Blues - Johnny Otis 4. Sugar, Sugar - Johnny Otis 5. Last Mile - Johnny Otis 6. Candle's Burning Low - Johnny Otis 7. Love Bug Boogie (That's the Way It's Gonna Be) - Johnny Otis 8. Brown Skin Butterball - Johnny Otis 9. Game Is Over - Johnny Otis 10. Keep Your Hand on Your Heart - Pat Valdelar 11. Rock Me Baby - Pat Valdelar 12. Boogie the Blues - Ray Johnson 13. House of Blues - Ray Johnson 14. I'll Never Let You Go - Ray Johnson 15. Smilin' Blues - Ray Johnson 16. Something's Wrong - Herbert "Woo Woo" Moore 17. Five Long Letters - Herbert "Woo Woo" Moore 18. Unlucky Man - Mel Walker 19. My Baby - Mel Walker 20. Another Sad Night - Mel Walker 21. Feelin' Mighty Lonesome - Mel Walker 22. I Have Decided - Mel Walker 23. They Were Doing the Mambo - Joe Liggins & His Orchestra 24. Honeydrippin' Daddy - Joe Liggins & His Orchestra 25. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah - Joe Liggins & His Orchestra 26. In My Neighborhood - Rollee McGill 27. Rhythm Rockin' Blues - Rollee McGill Disc: 7 1. Jockey Blues 2. Cherry Red - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson 3. Somebody's Gotta Go - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson 4. Too Many Women Blues - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson 5. Just a Dream - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson 6. I Like to Be Home Blues - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson 7. Cleanhead Blues - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson 8. When a Woman Loves Her Juice - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson 9. Kidney Stew Blues - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson 10. King for a Day Blues - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson 11. Old Maid Boogie - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson 12. Jet Propelled Papa - Helen Humes 13. Hey, Sister Lucy! - Trenier Twins 14. When I Get Drunk - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson 15. Oil Man Blues - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson 16. Ever-Ready Blues - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson 17. Have You Ever Missed Your Baby - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson 18. Some Women Do - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson 19. Alimony Blues - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson 20. I Took the Front Door in (I Took the Backdoor Out) - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson 21. Record Ban Blues - Dinah Washington 22. Good Daddy Blues - Dinah Washington 23. Baby Get Lost - Dinah Washington 24. Fine Fine Daddy - Dinah Washington 25. Please Send Me Someone to Love - Dinah Washington 26. Under the Viaduct (In Atlanta G.A.) 27. Love Is a Sin Disc: 8 1. Lonely Blues - Joyce Jackson 2. Body Rocking Daddy - Joyce Jackson 3. Lovin' Blues - Joyce Jackson 4. New Blowtop Blues - Dinah Washington 5. Worry, Worry, Worry - Joe Houston 6. Mumbles Blues - Paul Bascomb 7. Hittin' on Me - Buddy Johnson & His Orchestra 8. Don't Give My Good Love Away 9. Thank You 10. Other Side 11. I'm Just Your Fool - Buddy Johnson & His Orchestra 12. Shut Your Big Mouth (Girl) - Ricky Harper 13. Sloppy Daddy Blues 14. Juicy Lucy 15. What's Her Whimsey, Dr. Kinsey 16. Walk Around the Corner 17. Short John - Dinah Washington 18. This Is All - Screamin' Jay Hawkins 19. What That Is - Screamin' Jay Hawkins 20. (She Put the) Wamee (On Me) - Screamin' Jay Hawkins 21. Well I Tried - Screamin' Jay Hawkins 22. Talk About Me - Screamin' Jay Hawkins 23. Sweet and Slow - Titus Turner 24. Big John - Titus Turner 25. All Around the World - Titus Turner 26. Woke up This Morning - Arthur Prysock Seems that the same music was also released on four 2CD set (all OOP, too): Mercury Blues & Rhythm: Midwest Blues / Southwest Blues / West Coast Blues / East Coast Blues. Maybe that would be too much for me, but it does look good! ubu Quote
king ubu Posted March 12, 2004 Report Posted March 12, 2004 I was wrong: I was referring to the 8CD Mercury set The Mercury Blues 'n' Rhythm Story, 1945-1955, not another jazz-based box. This set includes sessions by Dinah Washington, Eddie Vinson, Gene Ammons, Jay McShann, Jimmy Witherspoon, Helen Humes, and many, many others, including blues and R&B artists. So this might include tracks also on the "Blues, Boogie, & Bop" set? Do you have it? Does it also have complete sessions? ubu I believe it has some overlap. I have both sets, but comparing the tracklistings and session details would take hours... It does have complete sessions as far as I remember Thanks, Hans! By the way, I found this great thread of yours while googling for the 8CD set: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=371 I was not aware of its existence, will have a look at it! ubu Quote
king ubu Posted March 18, 2004 Report Posted March 18, 2004 I found the information about the other Mercury box I was asking about. It's called "Mercury 40th Anniversary V.S.O.P. Album". Here's the link: http://microgroove.jp/mercury/VSOP-Album.shtml It seems that much of its contents were later included as bonus tracks on Verve CD reissues, yet this would still be a cool box to have, I guess! ubu Quote
king ubu Posted April 13, 2004 Report Posted April 13, 2004 upping this one, as I have been listening to all the Albert Ammons and Helen Humes dates over easter. Great GREAT music! That session with Albert & Gene Ammons is smokin'! Also some nice Johnny Hardee on the first Humes date, and some short moments of Rudy Williams on the second. Then you have those two very nice Mary Lou Williams on the end of disc 7! That box is a treasure! ubu Quote
chris olivarez Posted April 14, 2004 Report Posted April 14, 2004 The Mercury set is selling on the BMG music club for $39.95. Quote
mmilovan Posted April 16, 2004 Report Posted April 16, 2004 (edited) This set is awesome! It has some of very coherent music of the day and just perfect boogie-woogie piano works by Albert Ammons. Rhythm is so strong on some numbers you wouldn't' believe it's jazz rhythm section at all - still it cooks perfectly well for my taste. And Gene Ammons is so beautiful by doing his understanding of Pres, playing alongside his father. Touching moments, really! Edited April 16, 2004 by mmilovan Quote
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