Coltrane Fearless Leader

[AmirBagachelles]

let me begin by saying: feel free to cut and paste this to the appropriate thread

Where can I find a list of the Prestige albums/CDs that were legitimately issued as Coltrane leader dates?

And I list of those that were not?

Has Fearless Leader been vetted as tight, accurate?

What albums does it contain?

And which sessions/albums are in dispute as to leader?

I feel pretty adept at internet search, but this has driven me nuts this week! Thanks, Dan

[J.A.W.]

This is my Coltrane-on-Prestige sets list - all data according to the booklets:

• Fearless Leader – 6CD, Prestige; 1957-1958 recordings under John Coltrane’s leadership; this set includes the albums:

- Coltrane

- Lush Life

- Traneing In

- The Believer

- The Last Trane

- Soultrane

- Settin' the Pace

- Black Pearls

- The Standard Coltrane

- Bahia

- Stardust

• Interplay – 5CD, Prestige; 1956-1958 recordings John Coltrane participated in as part of a group; this set includes the albums:

- Tenor Conclave

- Interplay for Two Trumpets and Two Tenors

one track from drummer Art Taylor’s album:

– Taylor’s Wailers

the albums:

- The Cats

- Dakar

- Cattin’ with Coltrane and Quinichette under the co-leadership of tenor saxophonist Paul Quinichette

- Wheelin’ and Dealin’

guitarist Kenny Burrell’s album:

– Kenny Burrell and John Coltrane

• Side Steps – 5CD, Prestige; 1956-1958 recordings John Coltrane participated in as a sideman; this set includes:

one track from tenor saxophonist Sonny Rollins’ album:

– Tenor Madness

pianist Elmo Hope’s album:

– Informal Jazz

arranger/pianist Tadd Dameron’s album:

– Mating Call

pianist Mal Waldron’s albums:

– Mal-2

– The Dealers

parts of pianist Red Garland’s albums:

– All Morning Long

- Soul Junction

- High Pressure

- Dig It

parts of tuba player Ray Draper’s album:

– The Ray Draper Quintet featuring John Coltrane

parts of tenor saxophonist Gene Ammons’ albums:

– Groove Blues

– The Big Sound

Edited August 13, 2011 by J.A.W.

[king ubu]

I'll have a drink with you...

Don't quite get what this is about, but albums such as "Coltrane", "Traneing In", "Soultrane", "Lush Life", "Settin' the Pace", "Standard Coltrane", "Stardust", "Bahia", "The Believer", "Black Pearls" or "The Last Trane" (all in the box you're talking of) seem to be Coltrane albums to me, no dispute needed. The sidmen stuff and the jam sessions are on diffent boxes ("Side Steps" and "Interplay). Guess some of the programming decisions there could be challenged, but all in all, these three boxes are wonderful!

Ah, Hans was faster than me

But he's inaccurate as regards the Draper album: one cut was done without Trane and is - alas - missing from the respective box.

Edited August 13, 2011 by king ubu

[Chuck Nessa]

Looks right to me. These packages sound great. Thanks Hans.

Ubu's correction seems correct.

Edited August 13, 2011 by Chuck Nessa

[J.A.W.]

Ah, Hans was faster than me

But he's inaccurate as regards the Draper album: one cut was done without Trane and is - alas - missing from the respective box.

Edited.

Edited August 13, 2011 by J.A.W.

[king ubu]

Also, to get the whole story of "Coltrane on Prestige", the info for one more Concord/Prestige box has to be added: Miles Davis - The Legendary Prestige Quintet Sessions - the albums contained are:

- Miles

- Cookin' with Miles Davis Quintet

- Relaxin' with Miles Davis Quintet

- Workin' with Miles Davis Quintet

- Steamin' with Miles Davis Quintet

Plus, completing the two sessions from which albums #2-5 of the above list were taken, the track 'Round Midnight, originally on "Miles Davis and the Modern Jazz Giants".

Furthermore, on disc 4 of the Miles box, there are a few really cool live dates, released officially for the first time on this box.

(Addition: the Legacy Edition of Miles' first Columbia album, "Round About Midnight", adds the Newport '55 "comeback" version of Monk's 'Round Midnight and one more very cool - Gene Norman presented/produced - live session that was never officially released before).

[AmirBagachelles]

Thanks everyone. I have a handful of the old K2 reissues. Trying to figure out cheapest/best upgrade to match the Concord F/L set, which I only became aware of recently. I never realized that Last Trane was more of the great Lush Life session, etc....