JSngry Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I suggest you find a new world. Suggest one, motherfucker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Leeway Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I suggest you find a new world. Suggest one, motherfucker. Signor, hombre, caballero, gentilhomme to name a few I recall the Monk blindfold test: Oscar Peterson. Easy Listenin' Blues from 'With Respect to Nat' (With Herb Ellis and Ray Brown.) TM: Which is the way to the toilet? (Waits to end of record, leaves room, returns . . laughs.) Well, you see where I went. (To Mrs.Monk) Could you detect the piano player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETman Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I suggest you find a new world. Suggest one, motherfucker. I don't have any suggestions that are suitable for a children's forum. Just so ya know, it's also hip to be square! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I suggest you find a new world. Suggest one, motherfucker. Signor, hombre, caballero, gentilhomme to name a few I recall the Monk blindfold test: Oscar Peterson. Easy Listenin' Blues from 'With Respect to Nat' (With Herb Ellis and Ray Brown.) TM: Which is the way to the toilet? (Waits to end of record, leaves room, returns . . laughs.) Well, you see where I went. (To Mrs.Monk) Could you detect the piano player? Perhaps in light of Mr. Monk's non-verbal statement, we should add caca del torro! Ok seriosuly, a big reason why I don't like Mr. Peterson's music is that it creates in my mind a world where. not only is the word "motherfucker" not used, its mere existence is viewed as cause for dismay, a sign of the tragic weakness of human character. Sorry, but in the world I've lived in, "motherfucker" is used (and in all kinds of ways), and life is just fine, thank you, and I'm not the least interested in living in a world where it ain't like that. Oscar himself might have been a foul-mouther SOB (I doubt it, though), and I know that hanging around the players he did, he was amply exposed to "alternative vocabulary", but...I don't feel it in his music. So when I say that Mr. Peterson's music creates in my mind the image of a message/world in which I have no interest whatsover, that is what I mean. I don't necessarily need the word, but I do need the the vibe, dig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 (edited) Stratford Shakespearean Festival CD still works for me. As an aside all those who seem to be enamored of the term "motherfucker" need to go see Horrible Bosses. Edited July 23, 2011 by jlhoots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 As an aside all those who seem to be enamored of the term "motherfucker" need to go see Horrible Bosses. Why? Why "enamored" and why the movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasimado Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Pathetic thread. Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 The point to this thread vanished some ways back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETman Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 The point of this thread seems to have been to bash a hated musician, much in the same way that Keith Jarrett threads evolve. What seems to be lost on more than a few is that we can dislike someone's art without throwing around derogatory phrases to prove a point. This gets very confusing, as we all know that despite the commonly held opinion that someone like Miles Davis was truly a "motherfucker", his music is widely loved and admired in these parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I don't "hate" Oscar Peterson. I just don't like the way he played. What I do hate is the syndrome where if you don't like his playing, it's always because of some kind of "something else". Why is that so hard to figure out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETman Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I already made myself clear about what I don't get. Cursing to appear cool is just so......well, faux cool. Dig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Cursing to appear cool is just so......well, faux cool. Dig? If you think that "motherfucker" is a "curse word", then you've made my point for me, and quite nicely at that. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETman Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Which was what? You obviously possess lots of knowledge, and write many informative posts. One vibe that is common to all of them seems to be that you're a fifty-something trying to act like a twenty-something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 One vibe that is common to all of them seems to be that you're a fifty-something trying to act like a twenty-something. I learned the poetry, the beauty and the all-purpose badassness of "moitherfucker" (and countless other "curse words" HA!) from "fifty-somethings" - when I was a "twenty-something". If this is your vibe, to derogatate rather than tolerate (or god forbid. "appreciate"), then I don't mind you existing, I just don't have any interest in being in your world. Never have, and probably never will. And that goes a long way towards explaining why I don't like Oscar Peterson's playing. It speaks of and to a world that is not mine,and a world that I do not want to be mine. Now - are you the type of motherfucker that can figure that out and let it be, or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETman Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Fair enough. I can be any type of motherfucker you want me to be. I come from a world where many choices were presented to me, in one form or another. I'm man enough, realistic enough, responsible enough and educated enough to know that "cool" comes in many forms, however. Btw, what is "derogatate"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Fair enough. I can be any type of motherfucker you want me to be. I come from a world where many choices were presented to me, in one form or another. I'm man enough, realistic enough, responsible enough and educated enough to know that "cool" comes in many forms, however. Btw, what is "derogatate"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I think Jim really intended to trash this Oscar Peterson thread. Otherwise, he would have said his piece and gotten out. If someone did the same thing to a Monday Michiru thread, he might get an idea of what it's like on the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I think Jim really intended to trash this Oscar Peterson thread. Otherwise, he would have said his piece and gotten out. You're serious, aren't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 This thread is on the verge of being closed. As will be a new thread about the exquisitely shaded subtleties of the word "motherfucker." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 But there's so many!!!!JK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 So, who plays too few notes? Count Basie in later years? Paul Desmond, who proclaimed that he was the world's slowest alto player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 So, who plays too few notes? Count Basie in later years? Paul Desmond, who proclaimed that he was the world's slowest alto player? Actually...I do find later Desmond (i.e. - post-Brubeck) to have a certain...ennui that prevents me from engaging in his work as much as I'd like to. Don't know if it's a question of the # of notes or just the overall "energy level", but...yeah. Basie, though, NEVER! Even when him and/or the band were on autopilot, it was an autopilot that had been wisely calibrated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Harry "Sweets" Edison perhaps, when he played those long repeated notes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 It did get to be a schtick of sorts, but only when he used it in lieu of actually having something to say with it. Of course, you can say that about almost anybody... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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