jostber Posted July 16, 2011 Report Posted July 16, 2011 (edited) Seems like the 4th box with the original Impulse albums is on its way at the 30th of August. Now released by Hip-O-Select. I have the three previous boxes, and will welcome this new release. Edited July 16, 2011 by jostber Quote
jostber Posted July 16, 2011 Author Report Posted July 16, 2011 I like these boxes a lot. It's a way to get the original albums without alternate takes and stuff, and in fine packaging and sound. Quote
jazzbo Posted July 16, 2011 Report Posted July 16, 2011 No argument from me, I have the first three boxes, and that's the main way I now listen to that material. Hip-O Select presenting this is the mixed part of the lot for me. More dollars to buy it! Quote
J.A.W. Posted July 16, 2011 Report Posted July 16, 2011 If this set is released by Hip-O, a Universal imprint, be prepared to pay just under $20 per disc; that's the price their sets usually go for. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted July 16, 2011 Report Posted July 16, 2011 Wonder if these will be tweaks of earlier masterings? Quote
romualdo Posted July 16, 2011 Report Posted July 16, 2011 Wonder what 5 titles will be included? Don't suppose "Cosmic Music" or "Expression" will make it There is no mention on the Hip O Select site yet Quote
jazzbo Posted July 16, 2011 Report Posted July 16, 2011 (edited) If this set is released by Hip-O, a Universal imprint, be prepared to pay just under $20 per disc; that's the price their sets usually go for. Barnes and Nobles has it listed for 65 or so. http://music.barnesandnoble.com/The-Impulse-Albums-Vol-4/John-Coltrane/e/602527768205 Makes me think this may be a more widely distributed/bigger press run than the usual Hip-O Select (?) Edited July 16, 2011 by jazzbo Quote
colinmce Posted July 16, 2011 Report Posted July 16, 2011 (edited) I welcome the release as well, but am wary of the price. I paid less than $40 for the other boxes on release day from a small independent shop. Assuming this one is the same layout & everything, $65 is an enormous rip-off. As for the contents, At The Village Vanguard Again! and Expression are certain; how they handle the posthumous releases is something I wonder about. Will they follow vinyl releases or just deal with the titles previously released on CD? If the latter is the case, my guess on the other three are Sun Ship, Transition and Interstellar Space, but Om, First Meditations and Cosmic Music could also be possible? Edited July 16, 2011 by colinmce Quote
colinmce Posted July 16, 2011 Report Posted July 16, 2011 Edit: Dusty Groove to the rescue! They will be following the LP sequence: Expression/Live At The Village Vanguard Again/Om/Cosmic Music/Selflessness Quote
jostber Posted July 16, 2011 Author Report Posted July 16, 2011 Edit: Dusty Groove to the rescue! They will be following the LP sequence: Expression/Live At The Village Vanguard Again/Om/Cosmic Music/Selflessness Cool! Thanks. Quote
JSngry Posted July 16, 2011 Report Posted July 16, 2011 Technically, Live At The Village Vanguard Again came out while Coltrane was alive, before Expression, which was the first posthumous release. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted July 16, 2011 Report Posted July 16, 2011 Jim is correct. As I understand it, the Chess and Impulse masters vanished in the Universal fire. Quote
GA Russell Posted July 16, 2011 Report Posted July 16, 2011 We've talked about this before a number of years ago, but I can't remember. Can someone please tell me the names of the posthumous albums which had not been approved for release by Coltrane? As I recall, the first couple had been approved, and received five stars in Down Beat. Then came the others, which received only four stars. Quote
romualdo Posted July 17, 2011 Report Posted July 17, 2011 Edit: Dusty Groove to the rescue! They will be following the LP sequence: Expression/Live At The Village Vanguard Again/Om/Cosmic Music/Selflessness Thanks & good detective work!! Quote
colinmce Posted July 17, 2011 Report Posted July 17, 2011 Technically, Live At The Village Vanguard Again came out while Coltrane was alive, before Expression, which was the first posthumous release. Right, but wasn't Expression ready to go before he died? Quote
Leeway Posted July 17, 2011 Report Posted July 17, 2011 Somebody explain to me the appeal of this set please. Haven't all of these titles been released before in a myriad of forms from their initial release? What am I missing here that would want to make me shell out $65 to own yet another reissue? Quote
Shawn Posted July 17, 2011 Report Posted July 17, 2011 Somebody explain to me the appeal of this set please. Haven't all of these titles been released before in a myriad of forms from their initial release? What am I missing here that would want to make me shell out $65 to own yet another reissue? Complete-ism, Collector-itis, minuscule mastering differences, etc. In other words, nothing that couldn't be easily left on the shelf. Quote
jazzbo Posted July 17, 2011 Report Posted July 17, 2011 Somebody explain to me the appeal of this set please. Haven't all of these titles been released before in a myriad of forms from their initial release? What am I missing here that would want to make me shell out $65 to own yet another reissue? Sidestepping the points Shawn makes, there's the mastering which in my opinion has been in the previous three volumes excellent enough to just forget other versions, and the fact that these are presented as copies of the original lps in track listing and packaging. For some of us, this was the way we first heard the music (in my case in the 'seventies) and it can be the way we'd like to experience them now. (I really enjoy that now.) Quote
Leeway Posted July 17, 2011 Report Posted July 17, 2011 Somebody explain to me the appeal of this set please. Haven't all of these titles been released before in a myriad of forms from their initial release? What am I missing here that would want to make me shell out $65 to own yet another reissue? Sidestepping the points Shawn makes, there's the mastering which in my opinion has been in the previous three volumes excellent enough to just forget other versions, and the fact that these are presented as copies of the original lps in track listing and packaging. For some of us, this was the way we first heard the music (in my case in the 'seventies) and it can be the way we'd like to experience them now. (I really enjoy that now.) OK, I can understand that, I guess. I didn't have any issues with the Impulse CDs, and personally like having the alternate tracks available. I did check out the Amazon reader reviews (FWIW! ); seems the first volume got raves for its remastering, while 2 and 3 (especially 3) got panned. I mostly listen to these on vinyl anyway Quote
Shawn Posted July 17, 2011 Report Posted July 17, 2011 Sidestepping the points Shawn makes Yeah, unfortunately I've gotten real used to that. Quote
Leeway Posted July 17, 2011 Report Posted July 17, 2011 Sidestepping the points Shawn makes Yeah, unfortunately I've gotten real used to that. If it makes you feel better, I can relate to your reasons! Quote
jazzbo Posted July 17, 2011 Report Posted July 17, 2011 (edited) Sidestepping the points Shawn makes Yeah, unfortunately I've gotten real used to that. I didn't say they weren't valid points. Somebody explain to me the appeal of this set please. Haven't all of these titles been released before in a myriad of forms from their initial release? What am I missing here that would want to make me shell out $65 to own yet another reissue? Sidestepping the points Shawn makes, there's the mastering which in my opinion has been in the previous three volumes excellent enough to just forget other versions, and the fact that these are presented as copies of the original lps in track listing and packaging. For some of us, this was the way we first heard the music (in my case in the 'seventies) and it can be the way we'd like to experience them now. (I really enjoy that now.) OK, I can understand that, I guess. I didn't have any issues with the Impulse CDs, and personally like having the alternate tracks available. I did check out the Amazon reader reviews (FWIW! ); seems the first volume got raves for its remastering, while 2 and 3 (especially 3) got panned. I mostly listen to these on vinyl anyway Well, I don't really know what some people are hearing in these reviews. In the case of the third box I have two of the albums in lp facsimile Impulse gatefold cds from Japan just the year before. They as far as I can tell use the very same Kevin Reeves mastering as in the box, and they sound fantastic. (As does the box set version, they sound identical). Anyway, I don't do vinyl any longer so like having these as they are. I sold a few of the extra versions I had but decided to keep the rest of the Japanese ones I have (k2 remastered and 24/192 versions) as I couldn't sell them at what I thought was a very low price, so just decided to keep them. I can certainly see why anyone who has been collecting jazz for a while would avoid these box sets; I happen to really enjoy them, and they're good for the new collector imo. Edited July 17, 2011 by jazzbo Quote
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