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amazon.it is evil again today:

Living Stereo 1 for 35€:

http://www.amazon.it/Living-Stereo-Compilation/dp/B009J3K4MI/

Oiseau Lyre for 50€:

http://www.amazon.it/LOiseau-Lyre-Various-Artists/dp/B00IRQS24A/

Tebaldi for 54€:

http://www.amazon.it/Voce-DAngelo-Complete-Decca-Recording/dp/B002WN6GUG/

and plenty more good offers ...

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Living Stereo has already been "adjusted" ...

Too bad. Of all these mega sets, I think Living Stereo #1 and 2 are my favs. I really ought to buckle down and rip them, as I am sure I would play the material a bit more often.

Probably the perfect project for these cold Canadian winters...

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DHM 50 for 39:

http://www.amazon.it/Deutsche-Harmonia-Mundi-50-Collection/dp/B00NX4NMGO/

Monteux for 55:

http://www.amazon.it/Monteux-The-Complete-Album-Collection/dp/B00MAPMAFQ/

Ansermet Russian for 37:

http://www.amazon.it/Russian-Music-Ernest-Ansermet/dp/B00J498SOI/

Ansermet French for 36:

http://www.amazon.it/French-Music-Ernest-Ansermet/dp/B00DT2322E/

Gould Bach for 44:

http://www.amazon.it/Glenn-Gould-Bach-Edition/dp/B0086WQNZ0/

Ansermet European isn't reduced.

Lenny DG Vol. 1 has been adjusted, too, it was in the 50-60 range this morning, european time.

I went for the Oiseau-Lyre Baroque one, had been eying it for a long time.

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I've had and/or heard nearl all the contents of this set & ... it's mostly very good, and more of a 'bargain' today than most of these tombstones. The highlights are everything with Skip Sempe; Freiburger Baroque/Hengelbrock; Andreas Staier. I used to like Cantus Colln (& Konrad Junghanel) more than I do but... he's still an estimable musician.

On the other hand, I'd lament Nicholas McGegan anything; most things Kuijken; most things Immerseel; the absence of the generally fine DHM liner notes; the absence of texts/translations in the vocal works; THAT particular sampling of Handel or Haydn.

Verdict: I'd pay $25/euros, no more, otherwise you're better off getting smaller/other more specific sets or single issues OR going outside the bulk of this repertoire altogether, be it renaissance, baroque, classical period etc.

Any comments on the DHM box?

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amazon.it is evil again today:

Living Stereo 1 for 35€:

http://www.amazon.it/Living-Stereo-Compilation/dp/B009J3K4MI/

Oiseau Lyre for 50€:

http://www.amazon.it/LOiseau-Lyre-Various-Artists/dp/B00IRQS24A/

Tebaldi for 54€:

http://www.amazon.it/Voce-DAngelo-Complete-Decca-Recording/dp/B002WN6GUG/

and plenty more good offers ...

Ubu, my friend, of those only the Tebaldi should be tempting, if one enjoys RT and wants to go in one large swoop.

That L'Oiseau set is at least half outmoded, at best half "decent," the Living Stereo hyped well beyond merit in both performance and repertoire.

The REAL evil of these sets is the awful flattening-- the corporate consensus-making -- of FAR more polyglot & exciting musical history.

Again, comare these fucking tombstones to the catalogs of BIS, CPO, Toccata Classics, Naxos, peak Chandos...

Almost nobody on this board would tolerate same in jazz-- whether one is a Jazz Oracle fiend, a "Funny Rat" zealot or enthused listener of contemporary non-avant eclectics-- why support it in classical?

It's hardly like Sony/BMG or Universal are generally supporting anything but the most banal contemporary musics.

Saygun

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People want these boxes they do. For me I guess there is more fun in following the living practice live and in recordings. That is especially true of HIP (yuck, hate the term) where getting in to how things might be sounded is much more to the point than accumulating the repertoire. Which is in any case not a real repertoire, beyond a few peaks, just stuff that can be drawn on by folks thinking about that. It doesn't add up to a boxable history. To my way of thinking. I also don't get it on Living Stereo and other early dinosaurs. I guess to me it is like buying a box of Fifties beermats for folks who were not around in the Fifties to pick them up. Or who were. Anyhoo, got a tombstone myself, the DG Strauss,but for me it's a kind of existential thing...

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People want these boxes they do. For me I guess there is more fun in following the living practice live and in recordings. That is especially true of HIP (yuck, hate the term) where getting in to how things might be sounded is much more to the point than accumulating the repertoire. Which is in any case not a real repertoire, beyond a few peaks, just stuff that can be drawn on by folks thinking about that. It doesn't add up to a boxable history. To my way of thinking. I also don't get it on Living Stereo and other early dinosaurs. I guess to me it is like buying a box of Fifties beermats for folks who were not around in the Fifties to pick them up. Or who were. Anyhoo, got a tombstone myself, the DG Strauss,but for me it's a kind of existential thing...

DA, well that Strauss set is a revelation, if one wants it to be. I mean, just following Richard + Hoffmansthal & Richard + Zweig, you're covering a pretty wide & important swath of Euro cultural history (& Brazilian, considering Zweig's exile). I think overall, operatic sets are the most genuine bargains because some of these singers, productions won't/can't be repeated. And of course Strauss libretti are easy to come by. The huge Verdi tombstone, if one folllows with some biography, musicology, is also worthy.

re: no liner notes or libretto in tombstones, it's really quite galling though SOME companies do SOMETIMES act properly: for ex. Erato, DG and Decca all included texts in their respective Messiaen sets a few years back.

for the DHM sarcophagus above, how much would it cost Sony/BMG to have an intern scan the original booklets and included all 50-- huzzah!-- on an extra disc or an extra track elsewhere?

That they refuse to do so-- or even consider it-- tells us everything about how much they give a fuck about the music or those who listen to it. Especially when the original DHM recordings, of whatever relative merits as performances, were made & presented with great care.

For my fellow Straussians--

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Thanks for sharing thoughts on the DHM set, Moms. I agree with you on Sempe and Steier - good stuff. I also have hears a lot of Kuijken, and found it mostly OK, not spectacular. At the same time, I like his Bach cello sonatas performed on shoulder cello.

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I've had and/or heard nearl all the contents of this set & ... it's mostly very good, and more of a 'bargain' today than most of these tombstones. The highlights are everything with Skip Sempe; Freiburger Baroque/Hengelbrock; Andreas Staier. I used to like Cantus Colln (& Konrad Junghanel) more than I do but... he's still an estimable musician.

On the other hand, I'd lament Nicholas McGegan anything; most things Kuijken; most things Immerseel; the absence of the generally fine DHM liner notes; the absence of texts/translations in the vocal works; THAT particular sampling of Handel or Haydn.

Verdict: I'd pay $25/euros, no more, otherwise you're better off getting smaller/other more specific sets or single issues OR going outside the bulk of this repertoire altogether, be it renaissance, baroque, classical period etc.

Any comments on the DHM box?

Reg Junghänel and Cantus Cölln, it should be mentioned this Box doesnt feature his IMO best DHM releases aka Schein "Israels Brünnlein" and Rosenmüller "Sacri Concerti".......

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I've sworn off the mega-boxes (despite cheap per-disk prices, I don't wind up listening to them often enough), but Berkshire is selling this interesting 30-CD Casadesus collection (on the Scribendum label) for $119.70:

http://www.scribendumrecordings.com/our-shop/4583959841/sc506-30cd---the-art-of-robert-casadesus/8724523

With the usual dilemma: if you already own a bunch of the constituent recordings, how much do you want to spend to fill in the gaps (and also acquire some likely marginalia)?

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