Producer John Hammond: Our Complete Charlie Christian Interview

[jaso]

Thanks to Rooster_Ties for mentioning my Benny Goodman interview about Charlie Christian.

I’ve just posted the companion piece to the Goodman interview. In this previously unpublished Q/A, legendary producer John Hammond provides interesting recollections about meeting Charlie in Oklahoma City, where Charlie’s mother was working as a chambermaid in the hotel where Hammond was staying. With some difficulty, Hammond recalled, he talked his brother-in-law Benny Goodman into paying Charlie’s way to Los Angeles in August 1939 and then had to sneak the guitarist onto the bandstand while Benny was having dinner. As John tells it, “We set up the amplifier on the bandstand – luckily, there was an electrical outlet there. And poor Benny got up and got back to the stand and saw Charlie Christian there. He just had a fit! He beat off ‘Rose Room’ – I guess he figured maybe Charlie wouldn’t know ‘Rose Room.’ And if Charlie didn’t know ‘Rose Room,’ you’d never guess it, because 47 minutes later – that’s how long ‘Rose Room’ lasted. I think that was probably the most explosive session I ever heard with Benny’s group.”

Asked if there were any important jazzers playing electric guitar before Charlie joined Goodman, Hammond said, “Yeah, there were two. One was Leonard Ware in New York. I had him on my Spirituals to Swing concert, in 1938, but unfortunately the machine in which he recorded had a ‘wow’ in it, so we were never able to put those things out. He was very good, but he was not in Charlie’s class. Charlie was an original. There’s never been anybody like Charlie on the guitar. He was a complete revolutionary. The other jazz guitar player was Floyd Smith, but he played a Hawaiian guitar, you know. And Hawaiian guitar is bad enough, but amplified, it was excruciating!”

Hammond also covered a darker side of Goodman’s relationship with Christian, claiming that Charlie, in fact, was the sole composer of “Flying Home,” and that Goodman basically abandoned the guitarist once he became too ill to perform with the Sextet. In a lighter moment, Hammond described Charlie as a “wonderful” and “pretty naïve” guy, and added, “The two great guitar players in jazz, for my dough, were Eddie Lang and Charlie Christian. And they couldn’t have been more different, but they were both complete originals.”

You can read our whole conversation here: Jas Obrecht Music Archive: John Hammond on Charlie Christian

[Larry Kart]

How could Hammond fail to mention Eddie Durham as one of the "important jazzers playing electric guitar before Charlie joined Goodman?"

http://www.durhamjazz.com/legacyguitar.htm

[Ted O'Reilly]

How could Hammond fail to mention Eddie Durham as one of the "important jazzers playing electric guitar before Charlie joined Goodman?"

http://www.durhamjazz.com/legacyguitar.htm

That's the first thing that popped into my head, too...

[AllenLowe]

yes, Durham - also, isn't Leonard Ware Bird's accompanist on the stuff that's been issued as pre 1945 private recordings of Parker? As I recall, an excellent musician -

[jeffcrom]

yes, Durham - also, isn't Leonard Ware Bird's accompanist on the stuff that's been issued as pre 1945 private recordings of Parker? As I recall, an excellent musician -

No - Leonard Ware was an east coaster; the guy that played with Bird is Efferge Ware, from K.C.

[AllenLowe]

oh,,,,sorry...well in that case he's another excellent early electric guitarist.

also, let us not forget the excellent Bus Etri.

[Christiern]

Many of the "recollections" John dished up required a rather large side order of salt. The autobiography Obrecht deems to be "excellent" is riddled with self-serving embellishments that often cross into the realm of downright fabrication. In my opinion, one outright, deliberate lie renders the rest of a memoir suspect, if not useless. John is still to be admired for many of his accomplishments, but there is this unsightly blemish.

[jaso]

In 1979, a couple of years before my interviews with Benny Goodman and John Hammond, I located and interviewed both Eddie Durham and Floyd Smith. Both conversations focused on their early uses of the electric guitar. I also asked Eddie about the homemade pie-pan resonator he used for some of his pre-Jimmie Lunceford guitar solos with Benny Moten's band. I'll let you know when I transcribe 'em and post 'em.

[Big Beat Steve]

In 1979, a couple of years before my interviews with Benny Goodman and John Hammond, I located and interviewed both Eddie Durham and Floyd Smith. Both conversations focused on their early uses of the electric guitar. I also asked Eddie about the homemade pie-pan resonator he used for some of his pre-Jimmie Lunceford guitar solos with Benny Moten's band. I'll let you know when I transcribe 'em and post 'em.

YES, PLEASE!!

[bichos]

that would be great and histoical interesting and important!!

keep boppin´

marcel