Late Posted April 13, 2005 Author Report Posted April 13, 2005 I've seen it on a couple of sites but apparently it's OOP at the moment. I was about to order it but since it's obviously quite hard to get I may have to postpone my order. The Bards carry the 3-disc Saravah set off and on. That's where I purchased my copy. Though currently out of stock, here 'tis. To my ears, it's quite different than what came before and what immediately came after. My favorite period of Lacy is around 1976-79, and the Saravah recordings seem more of a transitional period to me. They hold a lot of interest, but their focus occasionally seems fuzzier. If you're a hardcore Lacy fan (or, God forbid, a completist), they're probably a must-have. If you're more interested in "classic" Lacy (from any period or year), you might want to flesh out your Hat titles (or some of the harder to find solo operations) first. Some highlights of the Saravah set include: • Earlier Derek Bailey with Lacy's group. They later went on to record the wonderful duo Outcome (1983) on Potlatch. • Lacy on sopranino. With Potts on soprano, it's a Squeak-O-Rama! • Lacy with Butch Morris. Lacy's not too often in the company of the cornet and/or trumpet. Truth be told, I don't play this set as much as I should. When I reach for Lacy (these days), I tend to grab his trio sides from 1976 (e.g. Live in Italy), or the solo disc Actuality, from '93. There is still a ton of Lacy I don't have, too ... (Some day the Horo catalog will make an appearance on compact disc? ) Quote
sidewinder Posted April 13, 2005 Report Posted April 13, 2005 Nice to read this thread on Steve Lacy. I only saw him once but I'm very glad that I did. It was at a club in Long Beach that he apparently used to play every time he was over in LA. The thing that stands out is the incredible inner logic of his solos and his great enthusiasm. Thanks indeed to Mr Lacy for that great evening. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted April 14, 2005 Report Posted April 14, 2005 Yeah, Moon ain't one of my faves, though I would like to hear Roba (similar band, same period). If you had to pick three from his discography, what would they be? (I know, it's hard) Quote
MartyJazz Posted April 14, 2005 Report Posted April 14, 2005 Anybody have any thoughts one way or the other about THE CONDOR (Soul Note), circa '85. I believe it's a sextet recording with Steve Potts. Any Irene Aebi vocals (all of which I can do without)? I can trade for it, which is why I'm asking. Quote
Swinger Posted April 14, 2005 Report Posted April 14, 2005 Truth be told, I don't play this set as much as I should. When I reach for Lacy (these days), I tend to grab his trio sides from 1976 (e.g. Live in Italy), or the solo disc Actuality, from '93. I listened to its sound samples at amazon.com and I'm not sure if I want to have the box set.It sounds interesting BUT there were some tracks that I'd most likely like to skip. I just love his duet albums with Mal Waldron (I have most of them) and his trio albums such as The Rent (I could play that one forever!).When it comes to his Hathut albums there is no better introduction to his music than his duet with Mal on Dreder set (4cd-set). Now I just have to hunt those all those missing Soul Note and Hathut albums. *sigh* Quote
John L Posted April 14, 2005 Report Posted April 14, 2005 (edited) Scratching the 70s is worth it for including "The Owl." That may be my single favorite Steve Lacy record. Some of the material on Scrathing the 70s is highly experimental hit-and-miss early 70s sort of stuff that I don't listen to very often. Edited April 18, 2005 by John L Quote
Late Posted April 14, 2005 Author Report Posted April 14, 2005 Anyone here heard or have this quartet session from 1978, recorded in Paris? Quote
clifford_thornton Posted April 17, 2005 Report Posted April 17, 2005 I thought it was a duo with Kent Carter... (i.e., no) Quote
clifford_thornton Posted April 17, 2005 Report Posted April 17, 2005 Truth be told, Eronel and Threads never really shook me up, either... Quote
Late Posted April 17, 2005 Author Report Posted April 17, 2005 I thought it was a duo with Kent Carter... (i.e., no) Catch, on Horo, is a duo recording with Carter. Points is a quartet with Potts, bass, and drums. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted April 18, 2005 Report Posted April 18, 2005 OK, what's the solo/duo on Le Chant du Monde, then? I thought it had a gold cover... too much Lacy to keep track of! Quote
Late Posted April 18, 2005 Author Report Posted April 18, 2005 ... too much Lacy to keep track of! Ain't that the troof. Turns out I was wrong about Points. It's solo-duo-trio (but no quartet). Here's what Senators sez: Points Steve Lacy: soprano saxophone Steve Potts: soprano saxophone (A1,B1,B2,B3) Kent Carter: bass (A1,A3) Oliver Johnson: drums (A1,A3) A1/ The Mooche (Ellington) 5:00 A2/ Pot-Pourri 3:30 A3/ Stalks 12:30 B1/ Free Point 8:15 B2/ Still Point 5:40 B3/ Moot Point 5:30 Recorded at Studio Résonances in Paris, February 1978. Engineer: Robert Prudon Cover art: Anne-Marie Dufour Photos: Michel Adda. 1978 - Chant Du Monde (France), LDX 74 680 (LP) Must ... hear ... this ... album ... — — I bet brownie's heard it! Quote
Bright Moments Posted August 11, 2005 Report Posted August 11, 2005 i am really surprised that seve lacy's "Snips" has never been discussed! this 2-disc set is steve's first solo concert in america. it was recorded in march of 1976 in a new york city "loft". steve is amazing and the music is first rate! the recording sounds to my ears like someone put a tape recorder on a table and let it go, so there is the occasional crinkle and some audience noise. it is not offensive at all (see my jason moran bandstand thread for my rantings about bad sound). for me, the way it was recorded actually made me feel like i was there! steve even "raps" a little on some of the cuts! in "hooky" he implores "don't go to school, don't go to school!" and he plays like no one else! if you are a lacy fan, i think this release is a must own! Quote
king ubu Posted August 11, 2005 Report Posted August 11, 2005 i am really surprised that seve lacy's "Snips" has never been discussed! this 2-disc set is steve's first solo concert in america. it was recorded in march of 1976 in a new york city "loft". steve is amazing and the music is first rate! the recording sounds to my ears like someone put a tape recorder on a table and let it go, so there is the occasional crinkle and some audience noise. it is not offensive at all (see my jason moran bandstand thread for my rantings about bad sound). for me, the way it was recorded actually made me feel like i was there! steve even "raps" a little on some of the cuts! in "hooky" he implores "don't go to school, don't go to school!" and he plays like no one else! if you are a lacy fan, i think this release is a must own! ← Marvellous one! I got it in a drimala sale last year, for 5$! When I saw Lacy live, solo, only a few months before he died (I think it was Nov. 03), he did the "rap"-thing too, for some short moments. What a fantastic concert that was, how glad I am to have caught him live, in time! What a sad loss! And how ironical to introduce him to that stupid DB Hall of fame now... they would have elected someone else, if he wouldn't have died right in time... At least they printed some short parts from old interviews that are a great read. Quote
Guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Posted August 11, 2005 (edited) This is my fav Lacy. Actually four of my fav musicians getting together. Recorded live at one of the greatest concerts that happened in Japan in the 80s. I have been regretting to this day that I did NOT go to the concert!! Still remember having seen the flyer.... Bura Bura / Masahiko Togashi Masahiko Togashi (perc), Steve Lacy (ss), Don Cherry (tp, p, vo), Dave Holland (b) May 14, 1986, Tokyo 1986 - Pan Music (France), PMC 1103 (CD) 1986 - Pan Music (Japan), 50 XB 107/108 (2 CD) 1986 - Presence/Pan Music (Japan), ALZ-28006 (LP - tracks 6-4-2-7) 2000 - Videoarts Music (Japan), VACM-1156 (2CD) Edited August 12, 2005 by naos Quote
LAL Posted August 12, 2005 Report Posted August 12, 2005 anyone else for "snips"? ← Yes indeed! The music is continuously intriguing from start to end. I think Steve does a Buddhist chant on one of the songs on disc 1. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted August 12, 2005 Report Posted August 12, 2005 I'm going to pick it up... (finally) Thanks for the reminder! Quote
king ubu Posted August 12, 2005 Report Posted August 12, 2005 anyone else for "snips"? ← It maybe has been discussed in the "rat", but I can't tell for sure... a search may turn up a few more opinions! Quote
Д.Д. Posted August 12, 2005 Report Posted August 12, 2005 anyone else for "snips"? ← Just ordereed it used (couldn't find it new anywhere) from amazon.com. Quote
Д.Д. Posted August 12, 2005 Report Posted August 12, 2005 This is my fav Lacy. Actually four of my fav musicians getting together. Recorded live at one of the greatest concerts that happened in Japan in the 80s. I have been regretting to this day that I did NOT go to the concert!! Still remember having seen the flyer.... Bura Bura / Masahiko Togashi Masahiko Togashi (perc), Steve Lacy (ss), Don Cherry (tp, p, vo), Dave Holland (b) May 14, 1986, Tokyo 1986 - Pan Music (France), PMC 1103 (CD) 1986 - Pan Music (Japan), 50 XB 107/108 (2 CD) 1986 - Presence/Pan Music (Japan), ALZ-28006 (LP - tracks 6-4-2-7) 2000 - Videoarts Music (Japan), VACM-1156 (2CD) ← Looks very interesting, evn though I don't kow Togashi (making it even more intriguing). Will search for it. Quote
Guy Berger Posted November 2, 2005 Report Posted November 2, 2005 I had my first sampling of Lacy a few weeks ago with Reflections: Plays the Music of Thelonious Monk. This is a greaaaaaaaat album! Elvin isn't quite "there" yet, but Mal Waldron is absolutely on fire. I also have Evidence (picked both up at an OJC binge last year) and will finally check it out in a few days -- if it's half as good I'm in for a treat. Guy Quote
martini Posted November 5, 2005 Report Posted November 5, 2005 A Lacy recording that I have really been enjoying lately is School Days with Roswell Rudd: It took me a couple of spins to fully get into it, but since then it has been hard to get out of the CD player. Besides Lacy and Rudd, the group features Henry Grimes and Dennis Charles. Allegedly, the session was recorded in 1963. It is worth seeking out. I think it might be OOP again, but you can find copies at www.jazzloft.com. I picked one up for $20 a couple of weeks ago. One Lacy/Rudd LP for which I have been searching years is Roswell's Blown Bone (Phillips RJ-7490 J rec NYC 3/26/76 3/27/76). I think it was only released in Japan. It is at the top of my list of recordings that should be reissued, simply because it has been impossible to find. Has anyone heard it? Quote
paul secor Posted November 7, 2005 Report Posted November 7, 2005 One Lacy/Rudd LP for which I have been searching years is Roswell's Blown Bone (Phillips RJ-7490 J rec NYC 3/26/76 3/27/76). I think it was only released in Japan. It is at the top of my list of recordings that should be reissued, simply because it has been impossible to find. Has anyone heard it? ← I have a copy. Its rarity outshines its musical quality. Quote
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