AllenLowe Posted October 4, 2011 Report Posted October 4, 2011 (edited) depends if it's the good hives or the bad hives... to me Pete Brown is the one sax player I can listen to who plays "funky" in a way which feels natural and not like the run of bad rock and roll saxophone players. He just has the feel and the rhythm - not to mention that on things like Mound Bayou (by Humes again, though it is unfortunately a Leonard Feather tune) he has a time feel that predicts certain bebop things. My favorite thing on Unlucky Woman is when he plays one particularly funky phrase and you can hear the band responding (which includes, I think, Dizzy, IIRC). Another early alto I like is Rudy Williams. and when I heard Earl Warren play in NYC in the '70s, he was playing more alto in that style than anyone I ever heard in person, including Benny Carter (and Earl never recorded in a way that reflected his abilities). and yes, Stoval is quite good, especially with Byas. though now that I think of it the award for Funkiest saxman, who even beats Pete Brown, goes to..... Horsecollar WIlliams with Etta Jones. Amazing stuff. Edited October 4, 2011 by AllenLowe Quote
mracz Posted October 4, 2011 Report Posted October 4, 2011 Yes,I also remember hearing Earl Warren several times in NYC in the seventies playing some amazing things. Quote
king ubu Posted October 4, 2011 Report Posted October 4, 2011 This thread has gone so far off topic... the discussions in other threads, mainly the Budd Johnson one, had me pop in Roy Eldridge's Pablo album "What It's All About" - with Norris Turney on alto. I'm not too familiar with him - Randy Weston's "Tanjah" (where he appears next to Budd Johnson, just on the Roy album), and of course lots of late Ellington. Where does he fit in? Quote
king ubu Posted October 4, 2011 Report Posted October 4, 2011 Ha, why did no one tell me there's a Pete Brown session on Hep's fine "Sounds of Harlem, Vol. 2"? There are also several tracks with Don Stoval on alto (spelled with one"l", it seems - same spelling on the tray card of the CD), first there are two by Joe Brown, and two more adding singer Jewel Paige. Then there's a Sam Price (same as Sammy Price?) date - four tracks with Emmett Berry, J.C. Heard, Stoval and Fess Williams (clarinet & alto). The Pete Brown date is at the very end of the disc, from Feb. 9, 1942, with Dizzy, Jimmy Hamilton, Price and singers Helen Humes (on three) and Nora Lee King (one title). Found the Frankie Newtwon disc... will listen to these now, intrigued - thanks everyone for the various hints and enthusiasm! Quote
king ubu Posted October 4, 2011 Report Posted October 4, 2011 to me Pete Brown is the one sax player I can listen to who plays "funky" in a way which feels natural and not like the run of bad rock and roll saxophone players. He just has the feel and the rhythm - not to mention that on things like Mound Bayou (by Humes again, though it is unfortunately a Leonard Feather tune) he has a time feel that predicts certain bebop things. My favorite thing on Unlucky Woman is when he plays one particularly funky phrase and you can hear the band responding (which includes, I think, Dizzy, IIRC). OK, me again... yes, that's a great session! "Mound Bayou" is nice enough, no matter it's by Feather... Humes is great anyway, and Brown's backing on these tracks is very good! And yes, the band does indeed include Dizzy (or did you just mean he's one of the responders?), as well as Jimmy Hamilton, Sammy Price, Charlie Drayton and Ray Nathan. Helen Humes sings on three tracks (Mound Bayou, Unlucky Woman, (Can't Read, Can't Write) Gonna Buy Me a Telephone), while Nora Lee King sings on the fourth tune (The Cannon Ball). All lyrics on the Humes tunes are by Feather, "Unlucky Blues" is all by Feather (L & C Feather? Who's C?) A friend of mine just ordered one of the Tab Smith Delmarks... got to check that out once he gets it! Quote
paul secor Posted October 4, 2011 Report Posted October 4, 2011 Pete Brown can also be heard on Champion Jack Dupree's Blues From the Gutter, IIRC! Great record! Fine playing by all involved - Dupree, Pete Brown, Ennis Lowery (Larry Dale), Wendell Marshall, & Willie Jones. Pete Brown made a very good record in 1954 for Bethlehem with Joe Wilder, Wade Legge, Wally Richardson, Gene Ramey, & Rudy Collins. It was reissued on Affinity (paired with a Jonah Jones date) as Harlem Jump and Swing - AFF 96. Quote
jlhoots Posted October 4, 2011 Report Posted October 4, 2011 (edited) I believe Mr. Kart should separate all of the non-Hemphill posts into a separate thread. Edited October 4, 2011 by jlhoots Quote
B. Clugston Posted October 4, 2011 Report Posted October 4, 2011 Back on topic, I found 'Coon Bid'ness in a record store yesterday. "Hard Blues" -- what a great track and icing on the cake for the Dogon A.D. reissue. Dogon A.D. was probably my favourite jazz album yet to see CD issue. Glad that's changed. Quote
jazzbo Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 Dusty Groove had it back in stock last night. . . I just got a shipping confirmation. Quote
relyles Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 I preordered it at amazon. Looks like they are waiting for the original release date (10/18) to start shipping. Quote
jonathanhorwich Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Posted October 6, 2011 Dogon A.D. is now out and available on several sites include Dusty Groove. As a heads up this has sold much faster than even Bill Dixon and I have sent off 1200 copies of the 1500 I printed. In short I have 300 copies left and that is it. Hope you all enjoy. Jonathan Quote
.:.impossible Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 Good to see that customers on amazon also bought a couple of Nessa titles! Quote
colinmce Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 Will you print more or is that it? Quote
Head Man Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 Dusty Groove had it back in stock last night. . . I just got a shipping confirmation. Thanks for the heads-up, jazzbo. I've just put my order in. Quote
jlhoots Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 Dogon A.D. is now out and available on several sites include Dusty Groove. As a heads up this has sold much faster than even Bill Dixon and I have sent off 1200 copies of the 1500 I printed. In short I have 300 copies left and that is it. Hope you all enjoy. Jonathan Hope you sent enough to Amazon for all the preorders of which mine is one. Quote
Leeway Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 My last experience with Amazon pre-order (the Miles Bootleg) was less than edifying (I'm not Prime, Choice, Gold, Platinum, or whatever, so had to wait way too long for the order). Just placed my order with Dusty Groove. Quote
Kyo Posted October 8, 2011 Report Posted October 8, 2011 Listened to some tracks on YouTube, ordered the upcoming CD reissue of this album. Really liked that recent Intents and Purposes reissue, btw! Quote
clifford_thornton Posted October 9, 2011 Report Posted October 9, 2011 Got mine. I haven't A/B'ed it with my Mbari LP (which is in very nice condition and always sounded good), but the CD is very punchy sounding, moreso than I remember the session to be. I think it suits the music for sure - great as always. Glad this is now in a much more available format. Quote
jonathanhorwich Posted October 11, 2011 Author Report Posted October 11, 2011 Dear All, Thanks Mr. Thornton for your kind words on the sound. And Kyo thank you too. The chances of me printing more than the 1500 Hemphills I already printed is unlikely. On Bill Dixon I printed 2000 at the behest of the distributor City Hall Records and now I've got some 700 discs to sell. They probably will over a several year period but that ties up funds which would be putting out other reissues. So on Hemphill it will be 1500 and that will be that. Dusty Groove in Chicago is selling them like crazy and just reordered more and got them. Anyway, there you go. On to the next reissue. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 There's a lot of love for the Dixon so I'm sure it will sell... meanwhile, a 1500-unit run of the Hemphill will surely move. I'm glad you've got this program going, indeed. Quote
jazzbo Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 The sound is amazing on this release, punchy and clear and warm. I'm still digesting the music but the sound helps in every way. Great job. Quote
jlhoots Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 What a world. Only 1300 of the Dixon sold - probably the best reissue of the year!! Still waiting for a shipping notice from Amazon on the Hemphill. Quote
.:.impossible Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Same here. I'll push the Dixon on some friends. I had no idea it was still available! Quote
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