Big Beat Steve Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) Why is it so hard to come to an agreement about what's really going on and then tell the truth about it. What do you gain by hiding anything? Could it be that this is a question of "not losing one's face"?? Interesting report and comment on this aspect (of evacuation politics and people leaving Japan now) on a German news site today (in German so no use providing a link here): The gist of it is that according to what's part of the way the Japanese see themselves the basic rule is: "As a Japanese, you stay put". Hard to imagine elsewhere what do we really know (and understand)? Edited March 17, 2011 by Big Beat Steve Quote
Dave James Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 Could it be that this is a question of "not losing one's face"?? I guess I'd rather save lives than face, but what do I know. Quote
BERIGAN Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Living social has a deal where if you donate $5 they will also donate $5...at least in Atlanta, but I imagine it's nationwide as well http://livingsocial.com/deals/32115-5-for-10-donation-to-red-cross-relief-efforts?msdc_id=34&ref=DCDeal031611_1_5651email Quote
RDK Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 You have got to see this! http://www.salon.com/entertainment/tv/feature/2011/03/17/japan_cartoon_nuclear_crisis/index.html Quote
Dave James Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 You have got to see this! http://www.salon.com/entertainment/tv/feature/2011/03/17/japan_cartoon_nuclear_crisis/index.html I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Or I guess I could be like the Japanese government which is apparently capable of doing both. Quote
Dave James Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 It's getting a little scary when no one seems to know what to do about the problems at Fukushima. This article from the LA Times is the most disconcerting of any I've seen to this point. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-japan-quake-wrapup-20110318,0,2262753.story Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 From TPM: Six Ways Fukushima is Not Chernobyl Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted March 20, 2011 Report Posted March 20, 2011 Interesting read... Written by a Delta pilot on approach to Tokyo during earthquake (Might take 10 or 15 seconds to load if Reddit traffic is high.) Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 http://xkcd.com/radiation/ Today's comic there... Quote
Quincy Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 http://xkcd.com/radiation/ For years I've been trying to convince women I'm a healthier option than a banana. Now I have proof right at the top of the first chart. Thanks! Quote
GA Russell Posted March 23, 2011 Report Posted March 23, 2011 The FDA today banned Japanese dairy products and produce. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/03/22/fda-halts-imports-radiation-affected-areas-japan/ Quote
Big Wheel Posted March 23, 2011 Report Posted March 23, 2011 The FDA today banned Japanese dairy products and produce. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/03/22/fda-halts-imports-radiation-affected-areas-japan/ ...from the 4 prefectures closest to the plant. NOT from all of Japan. Quote
kinuta Posted March 23, 2011 Author Report Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) Just as we are starting to feel some semblance of normality again we have been hit with a warning of elevated levels of radioactivity in the Tokyo water supply. They advise not giving water to ' infants' but say there is no immediate health danger to adults. Everythings hangs on ' immediate'. Freaking again. My link Edited March 23, 2011 by kinuta Quote
Man with the Golden Arm Posted March 24, 2011 Report Posted March 24, 2011 this week's "New Yorker" cover. so brilliant and so sad. my thoughts and prayers. Quote
imeanyou Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 Just as we are starting to feel some semblance of normality again we have been hit with a warning of elevated levels of radioactivity in the Tokyo water supply. They advise not giving water to ' infants' but say there is no immediate health danger to adults. Everythings hangs on ' immediate'. Freaking again. My link I live on the doorstep of the water treatment plant in Kanamachi Eastern Tokyo. I read Rupert Wingfield -Hayes's dispatch to the BBC (your link above). I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. What possible useful purpose does a report like that serve? To call the water situation 'Japan's ground zero' is completely irresponsible. The fact is that Japan sets limits for radioactive iodine 131 that are 10 times lower than those set by the IAEA: 300Bq/kg in Japan and 3000Bq/Kg for the IAEA. Putting 'no immediate danger to adults' at the end of a report after using emotive language like 'ground zero' is pure bad journalism. This is the same chinless wonder who harped on about the prevalence of face masks in Tokyo. Well that's because it's 'kafunsho' (hayfever) season. Something like 20% of Tokyoites are susceptible to the cedar pollen from that blows into the city at this time of year. This prat is apparently married to a Japanese woman. You'd think he'd dig a little deeper and know a bit about the place before typing out articles so cliche ridden they could have come straight from a Fodors travel guide. I've lived here for 12 years and as worrying as things are I really feel ill-served by what passes for journalism from some elements of the foreign media. As I write water has been declared safe for everyone in the Tokyo area. Net result? Panic buying of water in the city for 2 whole days and yet another media generated diversion from the pressing issue of those thousands left to freeze and starve up in the tsunami area. Seriously, life in Tokyo is Easy Street by comparison. Rant over. Time for a cup of tea... Quote
Dave James Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 It ain't over 'til it's over. More bad news from reactor #3. http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/25/japan.nuclear.reactors/index.html?hpt=T2 Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted March 26, 2011 Report Posted March 26, 2011 Japan Earthquake: Two Weeks Later Photo essay from The Atlantic, well worth a look. Quote
JSngry Posted March 26, 2011 Report Posted March 26, 2011 TEPCO is finally getting some public heat from the Japanese government: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110326/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_earthquake Quote
kinuta Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Posted March 26, 2011 (edited) Just as we are starting to feel some semblance of normality again we have been hit with a warning of elevated levels of radioactivity in the Tokyo water supply. They advise not giving water to ' infants' but say there is no immediate health danger to adults. Everythings hangs on ' immediate'. Freaking again. My link I live on the doorstep of the water treatment plant in Kanamachi Eastern Tokyo. I read Rupert Wingfield -Hayes's dispatch to the BBC (your link above). I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. What possible useful purpose does a report like that serve? To call the water situation 'Japan's ground zero' is completely irresponsible. The fact is that Japan sets limits for radioactive iodine 131 that are 10 times lower than those set by the IAEA: 300Bq/kg in Japan and 3000Bq/Kg for the IAEA. Putting 'no immediate danger to adults' at the end of a report after using emotive language like 'ground zero' is pure bad journalism. This is the same chinless wonder who harped on about the prevalence of face masks in Tokyo. Well that's because it's 'kafunsho' (hayfever) season. Something like 20% of Tokyoites are susceptible to the cedar pollen from that blows into the city at this time of year. This prat is apparently married to a Japanese woman. You'd think he'd dig a little deeper and know a bit about the place before typing out articles so cliche ridden they could have come straight from a Fodors travel guide. I've lived here for 12 years and as worrying as things are I really feel ill-served by what passes for journalism from some elements of the foreign media. As I write water has been declared safe for everyone in the Tokyo area. Net result? Panic buying of water in the city for 2 whole days and yet another media generated diversion from the pressing issue of those thousands left to freeze and starve up in the tsunami area. Seriously, life in Tokyo is Easy Street by comparison. Rant over. Time for a cup of tea... Couldn't agree more. The foreign media reports have really hyped the situation in Tokyo out of all proportion. The water panic buying hasn't abated here in Setagaya Ku, the shops are empty of water, as are all the vending machines. Doesn't bother me as I drink tap water. I really wish this ' kaidame' -panic buying would end, I went out to buy some yogurt the other day and couldn't find any anywhere. What possible reason could explain that? Time to move on and focus on the real problem, the plight of the newly homeless evacuees. Edited March 26, 2011 by kinuta Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 26, 2011 Report Posted March 26, 2011 Many thanks for the report. I have been looking for messages from Japan. All the best to you. Quote
BERIGAN Posted March 27, 2011 Report Posted March 27, 2011 Something that I don't think could ever happen in the U.S. Japanese repair quake-ravaged road in just six days Quote
RDK Posted March 27, 2011 Report Posted March 27, 2011 Japan Earthquake: Two Weeks Later Photo essay from The Atlantic, well worth a look. Great link - thanks. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted March 27, 2011 Report Posted March 27, 2011 (edited) What to say. From the AP... More obstacles impede crews in Japan nuke crisis The day began with company officials reporting that radiation in leaking water in the Unit 2 reactor was 10 million times above normal, a spike that forced employees to flee the unit. The day ended with officials saying the huge figure had been miscalculated and offering apologies. "The number is not credible," said Tokyo Electric Power Co. spokesman Takashi Kurita. "We are very sorry." A few hours later, TEPCO Vice President Sakae Muto said a new test had found radiation levels 100,000 times above normal — far better than the first results, though still very high. But he ruled out having an independent monitor oversee the various checks despite the errors. I heard that "10 million times normal" figure on the BBC last night as I went to sleep, and thought how dire things had probable become. Without independent verification, how is anyone to know which results are correct? Edited March 27, 2011 by Rooster_Ties Quote
7/4 Posted March 27, 2011 Report Posted March 27, 2011 Officials offered apologies for the error and explained "We were never really that good with numbers anyway.". Quote
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