brownie Posted February 11, 2011 Report Posted February 11, 2011 The bebop spoke here blog has an item indicating trumpet player Don Ferrara died on January 18. He was 82. Don Ferrara Ferrara recorded with Woody Herman, Lester Young, Gerry Mulligan, Lee Konitz among others. Sadly he never recorded under his name. Quote
paul secor Posted February 11, 2011 Report Posted February 11, 2011 I only know his work from the Atlantic, Verve, and Wave recordings he did with Lee Konitz. He was one of the relatively unsung musicians who played his part in the music. Thanks and R.I.P., Mr. Ferrara. Quote
BillF Posted February 11, 2011 Report Posted February 11, 2011 (edited) IIRC he's on lots of my Mulligan albums, in particular alternating with Jon Eardley in the Sextet and in the Concert Jazz Band, where he often played alongside Nick Travis, whom I associate with him. He's on two of my Konitz albums and has a very regular style of phrasing which I put down to Tristano influence. Edited February 11, 2011 by BillF Quote
AllenLowe Posted February 11, 2011 Report Posted February 11, 2011 (edited) he plays great, but for some reason there is another guy - white trumpeter, I think same generation, with a similarly lyrical style - with whom I always confuse him - anybody know who I'm talking about? ahh, just found him....Don Joseph. Edited February 11, 2011 by AllenLowe Quote
Larry Kart Posted February 11, 2011 Report Posted February 11, 2011 There was a mini-school of those bebop-Bobby Hackett guys, all of whom I think knew each other fairly well -- Ferrara, Joseph, Phil Sunkel, perhaps Tony Fruscella, John Carisi, John Wilson (who recorded early on with Jimmy Raney) probably a few others. John Eardley? -- maybe but not quite. I'm not saying they were bebop-Bobby Hackett guys in terms of actual origin, just that it sometimes sounded as though they were. Joseph and Fruscella were superb at their best; Ferrara I liked a lot, though he was so saxophonish/Tristano-ish at times that he could seem a bit at odds with his instrument. Quote
king ubu Posted February 11, 2011 Report Posted February 11, 2011 Sad news. I like what little I've heard of Ferrara's... some with Konitz, Mulligan. Allen (and anyone else interested): there's some fascinating and interesting discussion of that "school" of trumpet players (Joseph, Ferrara, Fruscella) in the Tony Fruscella thread. Quote
Hardbopjazz Posted February 12, 2011 Report Posted February 12, 2011 From one Ferrara to another, RIP DON. Quote
JSngry Posted February 12, 2011 Report Posted February 12, 2011 I'm not saying they were bebop-Bobby Hackett guys in terms of actual origin, just that it sometimes sounded as though they were. Is it too much/too wrong to put early Chet Baker in here as well? Quote
Larry Kart Posted February 12, 2011 Report Posted February 12, 2011 I'm not saying they were bebop-Bobby Hackett guys in terms of actual origin, just that it sometimes sounded as though they were. Is it too much/too wrong to put early Chet Baker in here as well? In Jeoren de Valk's very sound Baker bio (sound in itself and also by contrast with James Gavin's "Deep In A Dream"), de Valk writes: "Critics compare the early Chet Baker with Bix Beiderbecke and Bobby Hackett. Even if there are similarities between these white trumpeters, there can be no question of influence. Chet [in his mid-teens] was already a fan of contemporary be-bop and took no interest in older jazz. 'I never heard that much about Bix ... Bobby Hackett doesn't go far enough for me. He plays the melody nicely, but there was not much real improvisation in his playing..., If I had to play that way every night, I would die of boredom inside of a month. (The Wire, Nov. 1985.)" OTOH and FWIW De Valk quotes Carol Baker as saying that Chet's father, who played western swing (banjo and guitar), "was a big fan of Jack Teagarden." The young Chet did sing on the radio with his father's band. I would say that Chet was just one of the world's ear players (although in his case that "just" is huge). Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted February 12, 2011 Report Posted February 12, 2011 didnt this guy play w/ Warne Quote
brownie Posted February 12, 2011 Author Report Posted February 12, 2011 The item from bebop spoken here says it's Ferrara who introduced Warne Marsh to Lennie Tristano. No trace of a recording of Ferrara and Marsh together Quote
Quasimado Posted February 12, 2011 Report Posted February 12, 2011 (edited) Don was one of the great trumpet players. There is a beautiful thing of him with Lester on Philology "Lester's Hat 3", with Bill Triglia which shows him at his best... He seemed to prefer avoiding the limelight, disappearing into obscurity after Lennie Tristano praised him to the skies in a letter to Downbeat...something like "Don Ferarra is the next Messiah"... I heard that in the 60's he used to teach in the same school with Warne for a time in LA, and then by cassette correspondence... Q Edited February 12, 2011 by Quasimado Quote
JohnS Posted February 12, 2011 Report Posted February 12, 2011 (edited) Sad news, excellent playing with Mulligan and Konitz. edited for typo Edited February 12, 2011 by JohnS Quote
Peter Friedman Posted February 13, 2011 Report Posted February 13, 2011 There was a mini-school of those bebop-Bobby Hackett guys, all of whom I think knew each other fairly well -- Ferrara, Joseph, Phil Sunkel, perhaps Tony Fruscella, John Carisi, John Wilson (who recorded early on with Jimmy Raney) probably a few others. John Eardley? -- maybe but not quite. I'm not saying they were bebop-Bobby Hackett guys in terms of actual origin, just that it sometimes sounded as though they were. Joseph and Fruscella were superb at their best; Ferrara I liked a lot, though he was so saxophonish/Tristano-ish at times that he could seem a bit at odds with his instrument. A trumpet player who strikes me as having one foot (or perhaps just 2 or 3 toes) in that approach is Art Farmer. His quartet recordings with Jim Hall might be good examples. Quote
Michael Weiss Posted February 15, 2011 Report Posted February 15, 2011 Was talking to Lee Konitz at the Vanguard tonight about Don Ferrara. He said he was really advanced... playing on a very high level, after which he supposedly had a change of embouchure or mouthpiece and then disappeared off the scene completely. Quote
Coppens Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 Don Ferrara played very much in the Tristano idiom. He is one of the great unsung trumpet players. He played with great poise and spun out superb lyrical lines, fluent and effortless. I phoned him some ten years ago in a small town near San Diego, curious to find out if he ever recorded under his own name. Peter Ind must have tapes of the Lee Konitz Quintet from 1957, with Ronnie Ball and Dick Scott. I hope they will surface some day... Also, after the recording session which produced Konitz' album Very Cool, a session was played by the trio of Sal Mosca, Peter Ind and Don Ferarra. Pianist Billy Lester, a student of Sal's at the time, told me he heard the music at Sal's studio some 35 years ago. It was beautiful. Quote
king ubu Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 Wow, intriguing stuff, George! That trio of Mosca, Ind and Ferrara certainly sounds tempting! Quote
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