And You Think You Have a Large Collection!

[John Tapscott]

Wow! When you need ladders to get to them, it's pretty large indeed. Seems to belong to this one guy, Mike Winn, who does an internet jazz show. A big Ellington fan, from what I can gather.

http://www.therealenjoymentofjazz.com/index.html

[clifford_thornton]

How you have a collection that big without reams of Glenn Miller bootlegs, etc., is beyond me. Maybe a lot of duplicates?

[sidewinder]

I like his gaff ! First time I've ever seen a barn conversion with a jazz hideaway theme. A pretty old looking place too, judging from the rafters (medieval?)

Edited February 8, 2011 by sidewinder

[golfcrazy1984]

LOVE IT! Hopefully he's got a halfway decent system to play all his music on...

[umum_cypher]

It sounds grim though, doesn't it:

'Maybe the easiest way of describing the show's content (apart from listening and enjoying the show first hand which is by FAR the best way!!) is to tell what its NOT ....... I exclude early boogie woogie.....in fact I exclude the 20's and 30's (almost) completely and there's precious little from the 40's...........I exclude atonal avant garde jazz......I exclude 'elevator' music/muzak...............so what does that leave? .....simply the very best melodic jazz by the greatest artists who've ever graced a recording studio or stage.'

I'm having a tough time reconciling the last sentence with the others. And I don't like his floor tiles.

[relyles]

The floor tiles look very similar to tiles my wife recently put in our basement.

[BruceH]

It sounds grim though, doesn't it:

'Maybe the easiest way of describing the show's content (apart from listening and enjoying the show first hand which is by FAR the best way!!) is to tell what its NOT ....... I exclude early boogie woogie.....in fact I exclude the 20's and 30's (almost) completely and there's precious little from the 40's...........I exclude atonal avant garde jazz......I exclude 'elevator' music/muzak...............so what does that leave? .....simply the very best melodic jazz by the greatest artists who've ever graced a recording studio or stage.'

The guy doesn't sound very broadminded. What has he got against the 20's, 30's, and 40's? So, what, he doesn't like New Orleans jazz, swing, or bop? WTF?

[papsrus]

Yeah, that was my reaction. No boogie woogie? No '20s, '30s and little from the '40s? No avant garde? And why even mention elevator music?

Looks like a nice crib though.

[Brownian Motion]

It sounds grim though, doesn't it:

'Maybe the easiest way of describing the show's content (apart from listening and enjoying the show first hand which is by FAR the best way!!) is to tell what its NOT ....... I exclude early boogie woogie.....in fact I exclude the 20's and 30's (almost) completely and there's precious little from the 40's...........I exclude atonal avant garde jazz......I exclude 'elevator' music/muzak...............so what does that leave? .....simply the very best melodic jazz by the greatest artists who've ever graced a recording studio or stage.'

The guy doesn't sound very broadminded. What has he got against the 20's, 30's, and 40's? So, what, he doesn't like New Orleans jazz, swing, or bop? WTF?

He's got a world-class Kenny G collection--or so it's rumored.

[Ted O'Reilly]

I couldn't help but think of Kenny Guh today when reading this:

Michael Ruhlman, an expert in meat curing who is writing a book on Italian salumi, doesn’t flinch from calling pepperoni pizza a “bastard” dish, a distorted reflection of wholesome tradition. “Bread, cheese and salami is a good idea,” he said. “But America has a way of taking a good idea, mass-producing it to the point of profound mediocrity, then losing our sense of where the idea comes from.”

...from the NYTimes: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/02/dining/02pepperoni.html?ex=1312261200&en=c23f3fe2da5eae47&ei=5087&WT.mc_id=DW-D-I-NYT-MOD-MOD-M187-ROS-0211-HDR&WT.mc_ev=click

[brownie]

It sounds grim though, doesn't it:

Agree! It was my second reaction. The first one was: Wow!

I also have strong doubts about the acoustics of that place!

[sidewinder]

I also have strong doubts about the acoustics of that place!

A good place for madrigals from the minstrels gallery !

[Big Beat Steve]

It sounds grim though, doesn't it:

'Maybe the easiest way of describing the show's content (apart from listening and enjoying the show first hand which is by FAR the best way!!) is to tell what its NOT ....... I exclude early boogie woogie.....in fact I exclude the 20's and 30's (almost) completely and there's precious little from the 40's...........I exclude atonal avant garde jazz......I exclude 'elevator' music/muzak...............so what does that leave? .....simply the very best melodic jazz by the greatest artists who've ever graced a recording studio or stage.'

The guy doesn't sound very broadminded. What has he got against the 20's, 30's, and 40's? So, what, he doesn't like New Orleans jazz, swing, or bop? WTF?

My reactions exactly.

After having seen the topic title I was expecting a picture of a FAR larger collection anyway.

And after having read his exclusion criteria I definitely felt underwhelmed. In fact this "melodic" blurb makes me think of the kind of "jazzy" MOR stuff that would have gotten played on the AFN FM easy listening programs over here where you'd regularly find artists like AHMAD JAMAL programmed in between Hugo Winterhalter and Mantovani.

Edited February 9, 2011 by Big Beat Steve

[umum_cypher]

The floor tiles look very similar to tiles my wife recently put in our basement.

I'm sure yours are slightly different and much nicer. Besides, it's the wattle and daub effect that makes his look silly.

Don't tell me you've got a wattle and daub basement now.

[Van Basten II]

The guy is mostly in what you could call straight ahead jazz, that's his choice, if you don't like it go somewhere else, he's not the first jazz or music fan to be on the narrowminded side, I agree he seems a bit of a tat but I guess he feels strongly about the music of his liking.

Personnally I like to be all over the place, but that's my thing ain't forcing to take the ride with yours truly

[crisp]

The guy doesn't sound very broadminded. What has he got against the 20's, 30's, and 40's? So, what, he doesn't like New Orleans jazz, swing, or bop? WTF?

Perhaps it's a sound-quality issue. He might be a bit anal about only playing post-high fidelity discs on his show. For all we know he may have plenty of pre-Fifties music in his collection.

I think it's a good idea to limit yourself to one kind of jazz on a radio show. Too often you'll get a "jazz" show that tries to cast its net wide and ends up unlistenable as a result. I had Jamie Cullum's execrable Radio 2 show on last night while doing the washing up and had to turn it off as it veered from Mel Torme to someone called Dosh, then to Lorez Alexandria and so on, back and forth, with Cullum boasting and displaying his ignorance in between. Each of those artists might be OK, but all mixed up together it's like having your starter, main course and dessert all at the same time.

[BruceH]

Hey, live and let live say I...but nevertheless, find it a tad strange that someone who professes to like Ellington and Basie can be down on 20's, 30's, and most 40's jazz. Wha? Basie isn't 30's? And Ellington came from Mars I suppose?

[mellowT]

I wonder what qualifies as "atonal avant garde jazz." Is that a specific type of avant garde or is he referring to all avant garde?

Edited February 10, 2011 by mellowT

[sidewinder]

I had Jamie Cullum's execrable Radio 2 show on last night while doing the washing up and had to turn it off as it veered from Mel Torme to someone called Dosh, then to Lorez Alexandria and so on, back and forth, with Cullum boasting and displaying his ignorance in between. Each of those artists might be OK, but all mixed up together it's like having your starter, main course and dessert all at the same time.

Never heard this show and will avoid it if it is as bad as it sounds here. Thanks !

[papsrus]

I wonder what qualifies as "atonal avant garde jazz." Is that a specific type of avant garde or is he referring to all avant garde?

I understood him to mean that all avant garde is atonal.

[Noj]

Although I won't knock the guy for having his own taste, it's odd to have a collection THAT big and not explore a bit outside the usual. My collection isn't nearly as large but spans many genres and well into stuff which isn't my usual cup of tea.

[Hot Ptah]

Here is the playlist for his most recent show:

"This weeks show and albums:

Jazz 179 Playlist

01. Art Hodes - Bye & Bye

02. Scott Hamilton/Alan Barnes - Hi-Ya

03. Marian McPartland - I've Told Every Little Star

04. Dizzy Gillespie - Tanga

05. Francis Bay - Perdido

06. David Newton - Both Sides Now

07. Alice Babs - More Understanding Than A Man

08. Willie Smith - One O'Clock Jump

09. Jimmy & Doug Raney - How My Heart sings

10. Ron Carter - 595

and the albums

Ron Carter - Dear Miles

Alice Babs - As Time Goes By

David Newton - Inspired

Scott Hamilton/Alan Barnes - Hi-Ya

Dizzy Gillespie - Live At The Jazz Festival Bern

Marian McPartland - Marian's Moods

Art Hodes - Something Personal Alone With Friends

Jimmy & Doug Raney - Stolen Moments

Lionel Hampton - Stardust

Francis Bay - Bay Big Band Plays Duke Ellington"

[GA Russell]

Wow! How many years would it take to listen to all of that collection at, say, four CDs a day?

[Chuck Nessa]

The guy's a fan. He's promoting his favorites. Nothing wrong with that.

OTOH he's a limited guy.

Live and let live.

[sidewinder]

The guy's a fan. He's promoting his favorites. Nothing wrong with that.

Exactly !