ep1str0phy Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 This is by FAR the most I've seen this Arthur Doyle record go for... Alabama Feeling EX-CES-SIVE. (Although I'd love to have the cash to burn for that Frank Wright...) Quote
clifford_thornton Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 I've heard that Wright is a mediocre set. For whatever reason, dudes get fired up... Quote
ep1str0phy Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 I've only been really disappointed by Shouting the Blues, although recent technological/Internet innovations have prevented me from paying excessive amounts to know so. Quote
Allan Songer Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 I've only been really disappointed by Shouting the Blues, although recent technological/Internet innovations have prevented me from paying excessive amounts to know so. Some nice flute, there. I think I paid $5 for my Stereo copy back in the 70's. I slap it on the table now and then! Quote
ep1str0phy Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 My beef is that the backing band on that one is in a completely different bag--and it's not so much that it pulls Wright in, but that the reactions and attentions of the rhythm support here come across as a little insipid. Nothing to take away from Wright though, a cat who has always been able to make do in the least likely of contexts. Quote
michel1969 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 Another Ebay marketing trick : the rarity of Saxophone Colossus. Let's count how many NM copies surface this year. We could repeat this with "blowin in from chicago", "jr monterose" and some others. meanwhile, let's check those two. One Saxophone... ...Another Colossus Quote
clifford_thornton Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 My beef is that the backing band on that one is in a completely different bag--and it's not so much that it pulls Wright in, but that the reactions and attentions of the rhythm support here come across as a little insipid. Nothing to take away from Wright though, a cat who has always been able to make do in the least likely of contexts. Think I prefer Kevin, My Dear Son. That is an excellent record - weird, but excellent. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 Another Ebay marketing trick : the rarity of Saxophone Colossus. Let's count how many NM copies surface this year. We could repeat this with "blowin in from chicago", "jr monterose" and some others. meanwhile, let's check those two. One Saxophone... ...Another Colossus Yeah, it's all over the place. I had to rifle through about seven copies just to grab a JVC copy of The Bridge yesterday... Quote
porcy62 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 Another Ebay marketing trick : the rarity of Saxophone Colossus. Let's count how many NM copies surface this year. We could repeat this with "blowin in from chicago", "jr monterose" and some others. meanwhile, let's check those two. One Saxophone... ...Another Colossus Yeah, it's all over the place. I had to rifle through about seven copies just to grab a JVC copy of The Bridge yesterday... Yeah, the poor Sonny should have became rich if he had kept all those promo copies, instead of gave them to his friend at times. Quote
jazzhound Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 Another Ebay marketing trick : the rarity of Saxophone Colossus. Let's count how many NM copies surface this year. We could repeat this with "blowin in from chicago", "jr monterose" and some others. meanwhile, let's check those two. One Saxophone... ...Another Colossus just bought a vg/vg- (vinyl grade) on ebay for 16 dollars...lets see what shows up Quote
porcy62 Posted February 3, 2007 Report Posted February 3, 2007 (edited) This is not a Lexington pressing, or a Colossus and I am looking for a near mint copy of it...but... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...p;rd=1&rd=1 Edited February 3, 2007 by porcy62 Quote
clifford_thornton Posted February 4, 2007 Report Posted February 4, 2007 Jesus Christ... that's like a $100 record tops! Quote
michel1969 Posted February 4, 2007 Report Posted February 4, 2007 It's incredible ! At least for me. Is this original one so desirable or are they crazy ? Of course absolutely LOVE this extraordinary Marvin album (who do not ?), but more than 1 K ? Porcy, do you know something about this pressing ? Quote
michel1969 Posted February 4, 2007 Report Posted February 4, 2007 This is not a Lexington pressing, or a Colossus and I am looking for a near mint copy of it...but... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...p;rd=1&rd=1 Maybe it IS actually a Lexington press. Now I know. Quote
porcy62 Posted February 4, 2007 Report Posted February 4, 2007 (edited) It's incredible ! At least for me. Is this original one so desirable or are they crazy ? Of course absolutely LOVE this extraordinary Marvin album (who do not ?), but more than 1 K ? Porcy, do you know something about this pressing ? No. Their claim of first pressing is a bit tricky, they should have pressed millions copies of this. So if you don't open it and check the stampers, who knows? The album was reissued by Motown in 1981, from its original realese up to this date Tamla label didn't changed AFIK. Maybe the thick gatefold is an evidence, but i am not sure. I thought I could have a nm original first edition Tamla for less then 50 bucks. At the same times with album like this, the probability you got a wear groove record are usually high. So if you really want a perfect original Tamla pressing... Edited February 4, 2007 by porcy62 Quote
brownie Posted February 5, 2007 Report Posted February 5, 2007 $2,255 for this Sahib Shihab! Sahib Shihab The Danish Radio Jazz Group Quote
ep1str0phy Posted February 5, 2007 Report Posted February 5, 2007 (talent notwithstanding) How the hell did Sahib get so popular? Before all those albums went up on the blogosphere, no one was talking about him. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted February 5, 2007 Report Posted February 5, 2007 I remember when the reissue came out, which even a few years ago was pretty expensive. I'm sure it's a good record, and probably I should've bought the reissue! Quote
sidewinder Posted February 5, 2007 Report Posted February 5, 2007 (edited) I remember when the reissue came out, which even a few years ago was pretty expensive. I'm sure it's a good record, and probably I should've bought the reissue! I have the reissue - and it cost an arm and a leg. I'm told that the sound is better than the original - plus the cover is as near to facsimile as you can get. The music is . I believe there were only 100-150 of the original Oktavs produced, so the high price of that ebay item is no suprise. Edited February 5, 2007 by sidewinder Quote
clifford_thornton Posted February 5, 2007 Report Posted February 5, 2007 James has a copy now for over $120... I think I could've had it for $50 a few years ago! Quote
michel1969 Posted February 5, 2007 Report Posted February 5, 2007 I had the occasion to buy the Oktav reissue. it was made by a Japanese dealer in Paris and his brother, around 2002-2003. He distributed some copies here and there in France. Sahib Shihab is now one of the most sought after Jazz musician from this era. Look at "Seeds", "Companionship" and the Savoy recording, they all fetch insane price everytime. But the Oktav is really a top rare one. Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted February 5, 2007 Report Posted February 5, 2007 The explanation of these skyrocketing prices is easy: Almost ANY combination of "EURO-JAZZ" (especially from the 50s and 60s - and early 70s if on the right label ) AND Japanese buyers will make prices go through the roof. Copies of a similar issue (Lars Gullin/Brew Moore/Sahib Shibab on one of those 60s Danish labels) went sky-high several times on eBay around 2001/2002. And I remember how I almost fainted when I first saw the prices that that early 10" release by Iancsi Korossy on the Supraphon label (of which I had picked up a NM copy for 2 deutschmarks - about 1 euro - on a local fleamarket in the late 90s) regularly fetched on eBay. Quote
michel1969 Posted February 5, 2007 Report Posted February 5, 2007 The explanation of these skyrocketing prices is easy: Almost ANY combination of "EURO-JAZZ" (especially from the 50s and 60s - and early 70s if on the right label ) AND Japanese buyers will make prices go through the roof. Absolutely right. A record dealer told me that in the 80's he desperately tried to get rid of Euro Jazz records. of Shihab or Barney Wilen, Swing 10' etc.. . Nobody was interested or willing to spend money for that. . When i started collecting jazz records, in the mid 90's it was then still possible to find records like "Byrd in Paris" or many Blakeys (Club St Germain, Liaisons dangereuses etc) at affordable prices in Paris. I bought many of them. When i realize that i was not really interested in collecting this kind of records (often low quality press, flimsy covers whatever rarity they are) i burned CD's (not always, i must admit) and sold them, or exchanged them for US records. Now even Slide Hampton european releases are collectible, while his US recordings are almost totally ignored. Regarding the rarity, i must say that some french jazz are impossibly rare : the Swing 10's are almost impossible to find (i only had a NM "Jimmy Raney visit Paris vol 1" at a time), because very low quantity were pressed. I've never seen a mint copy of Barbey Wilen's Tilt, never seen the "Guilde du Jazz" and the RCA, neither René Urterger on Versailles, or Ronnell Bright or Arvanitas on Pretoria. I always wonder who actually bought them when issued ! I'd say also, that Japanese are heavy bidders, but many repress are often sold for originals : three or five years ago, a mint complete set of "Blakey's club St Germain" was auctionned on ebay at more than 700 $. The complete set was in fact made of early 60's third press. Tried to warn the high bidder... No way...It seems that the combination US artists + European Artists + Small euro label is the big money combination... Quote
clifford_thornton Posted February 5, 2007 Report Posted February 5, 2007 I had the occasion to buy the Oktav reissue. it was made by a Japanese dealer in Paris and his brother, around 2002-2003. He distributed some copies here and there in France. Yeah, I was in his shop and thought about getting it there. I think he was selling it fairly cheaply. Quote
michel1969 Posted February 5, 2007 Report Posted February 5, 2007 I had the occasion to buy the Oktav reissue. it was made by a Japanese dealer in Paris and his brother, around 2002-2003. He distributed some copies here and there in France. Yeah, I was in his shop and thought about getting it there. I think he was selling it fairly cheaply. Anyway the mentality of this guy prevents me from buying anything from him. Quote
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