slide_advantage_redoux Posted September 26, 2006 Author Report Posted September 26, 2006 Wow! http://cgi.ebay.com/KENNY-DORHAM-ON-BLUE-N...1QQcmdZViewItem Quote
Allan Songer Posted September 26, 2006 Report Posted September 26, 2006 (edited) Wow! http://cgi.ebay.com/KENNY-DORHAM-ON-BLUE-N...1QQcmdZViewItem That's always been an expensive record. I saw a copy sell for $1100 or $1200 3-4 years ago in NM condition. Edited September 26, 2006 by Allan Songer Quote
michel1969 Posted September 26, 2006 Report Posted September 26, 2006 Wow! http://cgi.ebay.com/KENNY-DORHAM-ON-BLUE-N...1QQcmdZViewItem That's always been an expensive record. I saw a copy sell for $1100 or $1200 3-4 years ago in NM condition. Yes but this one has probably no flat edge, and apparently no kakubuchi cover. Not very first press IMO. Quote
Allan Songer Posted September 26, 2006 Report Posted September 26, 2006 Wow! http://cgi.ebay.com/KENNY-DORHAM-ON-BLUE-N...1QQcmdZViewItem That's always been an expensive record. I saw a copy sell for $1100 or $1200 3-4 years ago in NM condition. Yes but this one has probably no flat edge, and apparently no kakubuchi cover. Not very first press IMO. Yeah, probably. Most of the copies you run across ARE first pressings, however. The second run must have been VERY small!! Quote
michel1969 Posted September 26, 2006 Report Posted September 26, 2006 I have a copy of this second run Bohemia. Disk Ok, But seams are taped...Maybe i should bid just for the cover ? Quote
michel1969 Posted September 26, 2006 Report Posted September 26, 2006 Wow! http://cgi.ebay.com/KENNY-DORHAM-ON-BLUE-N...1QQcmdZViewItem That's always been an expensive record. I saw a copy sell for $1100 or $1200 3-4 years ago in NM condition. Hey Hey ! another Blue Note that did not make the reserve price. I tell you : Ebay Blue Note madness is going down !! In 2012, Blue Note will be affordable for the middle class !! Quote
Peter A Posted September 27, 2006 Report Posted September 27, 2006 In the case of New jazz hissy pressing can be played with Mono cartridge, it helps eliminate the hiss. 8252 and 8253 are especially hissy Try to watch out for real first pressings if you consider to buy LP's on the New Jazz label. They need to have wide deep grooves. Second (or second run) pressings are without deep groove and are often pressed on vinyl which has a tiny spots or a kind of haze (which produces the hiss). These second pressings come often in unlaminated jackets. My DG copies of 8252 and 8253 sound fine! Quote
brownie Posted September 27, 2006 Report Posted September 27, 2006 No matter what, I'll keep my stainless Lexington copy of the KD at Cafe Bohemia. A favorite album from years ago! Quote
Peter A Posted September 27, 2006 Report Posted September 27, 2006 What do you think of Riverside US press ? They seem to be very deceiving. i have a copy of "the trio" that looks NM. Anyway, it has plenty of little noises, hiss etc...it drives me mad !!!! vinyl is near perfect and there are plenty of noises !!! i can't explain exept for the quality of the pressing in itself. My NM copy of the Trio probably is as noisy as yours! Very frustrating if you succeed in finding a wanted record in - what seems to be - impaccable condition and then it turns out to be a lousy pressing. Probably all copies of this title are as bad as yours and mine. I have mixed experiences with Riverside - some pressings are very good (e.g. Interplay by Bill Evans) and some are lousy, like the Trio. Quote
Dmitry Posted September 27, 2006 Report Posted September 27, 2006 What do you think of Riverside US press ? They seem to be very deceiving. i have a copy of "the trio" that looks NM. Anyway, it has plenty of little noises, hiss etc...it drives me mad !!!! vinyl is near perfect and there are plenty of noises !!! i can't explain exept for the quality of the pressing in itself. My NM copy of the Trio probably is as noisy as yours! Very frustrating if you succeed in finding a wanted record in - what seems to be - impaccable condition and then it turns out to be a lousy pressing. Probably all copies of this title are as bad as yours and mine. I have mixed experiences with Riverside - some pressings are very good (e.g. Interplay by Bill Evans) and some are lousy, like the Trio. Could be mold/mildew in the grooves. I just ordered this stuff.. Allegedly it does wonders or moldy vinyl. Buggtussel - ask for it by name! Quote
michel1969 Posted September 27, 2006 Report Posted September 27, 2006 In the case of New jazz hissy pressing can be played with Mono cartridge, it helps eliminate the hiss. 8252 and 8253 are especially hissy Try to watch out for real first pressings if you consider to buy LP's on the New Jazz label. They need to have wide deep grooves. Second (or second run) pressings are without deep groove and are often pressed on vinyl which has a tiny spots or a kind of haze (which produces the hiss). These second pressings come often in unlaminated jackets. My DG copies of 8252 and 8253 sound fine! Well these ARE DG first press ! But when i ply them with mono cartidge it eliminates the hiss. But I have a Ken MC Intyre (8247) that has no DG and this haze (and hiss) problem whatever. Quote
Daniel A Posted September 29, 2006 Report Posted September 29, 2006 Somone trying to get maximum dollar out of 'Windmill Tilter' before the upcoming CD reissue gets widely known: http://cgi.ebay.com/KENNY-WHEELER-JOHN-DAN...1QQcmdZViewItem Reserve not met at $150, two more days to go. Quote
Daniel A Posted September 30, 2006 Report Posted September 30, 2006 Unplayed promo copy of 'Kind of Blue', would you believe that? Quote
michel1969 Posted October 5, 2006 Report Posted October 5, 2006 $1,293 ?!? [url=http://cgi.ebay.com/LEE-MORGAN-BLUE-NOTE-1538-INDEED-flat-edge-RVG-ear-EX_ Have a look at popsike.com, and consider how many of those pricey ebay records are relisted one or two weeks before the first auction...very interesting !.... some guys apprently have bigger ego than banking account (and brain). Quote
clifford_thornton Posted October 5, 2006 Report Posted October 5, 2006 That copy doesn't look all that nice to me... Quote
Dmitry Posted October 5, 2006 Report Posted October 5, 2006 $1,293 ?!? Indeed! VINYL CONDITION: EXCELLENT++, a soft tick here and there due to a few mild hairlines and a few very mild surface lines, nothing serious // COVER CONDITION: EXCELLENT, mild corner wear. Cover looks anything but excellent, imo. PLUS, excellent means there are no scratches and no noise. I'd be weary of the whole thing. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted October 5, 2006 Report Posted October 5, 2006 Yeah, totally, especially considering that price! Quote
michel1969 Posted October 5, 2006 Report Posted October 5, 2006 I agree with all i read regarding this one, but we must admit that its almost impossible to find a NM cover of this particular (at least i have never seen one) they all have rubbing, and soften corners. Those framed covers have always a flaw here or here... Regarding the sound... The guys pays 1000 + for this VG+++, because it is described as VG+++ : but how many times will he actually listen to the record. (Trashed or noisy copies are often described as "playing copies"....which is absurd ! ). To sum up : the bid is for the object, and the history... (you can say : for the show) not for the musical facts (IMO). That is where we are now with Blue Note collecting. Quote
Peter A Posted October 6, 2006 Report Posted October 6, 2006 I remember a (real) NM copy of this record being auctioned two or three years ago for more than $2000. I know the guy who bought it. He has been a Blue Note (only) collector for more than 20 years and he told me that this is one of the most difficult originals (w/flat edge and kakubuchi jacket) to find in a good condition. So $1293, although a huge amount of money for a single record, is not as bad as it looks. Quote
tjluke68 Posted October 6, 2006 Report Posted October 6, 2006 At a yard sale recently, I saw a NM copy of Hank Mobley/Lee Morgan Blue Note 1540 in shrink with a Lexington Ave address on the record label. The owner wouldn't sell it to me because 'it shouldn't have been in that pile because the price books say it's worth $1K.' Wonder if he plans on selling it on ebay and what he would get for it? Quote
michel1969 Posted October 6, 2006 Report Posted October 6, 2006 At a yard sale recently, I saw a NM copy of Hank Mobley/Lee Morgan Blue Note 1540 in shrink with a Lexington Ave address on the record label. The owner wouldn't sell it to me because 'it shouldn't have been in that pile because the price books say it's worth $1K.' Wonder if he plans on selling it on ebay and what he would get for it? Blue Note albums were not originally sold in shrink. So either it is a resaeled record for sale purpose, or it is a non DG no flat non ear reissue from around end of 60's. (even with lex label) Quote
michel1969 Posted October 6, 2006 Report Posted October 6, 2006 I remember a (real) NM copy of this record being auctioned two or three years ago for more than $2000. I know the guy who bought it. He has been a Blue Note (only) collector for more than 20 years and he told me that this is one of the most difficult originals (w/flat edge and kakubuchi jacket) to find in a good condition. So $1293, although a huge amount of money for a single record, is not as bad as it looks. I think i know the guy too. A BN completist. I remember this auction. And yes, its very difficult to find in NM condition, mainly because of the rubbing of the very dark cover. Quote
michel1969 Posted October 6, 2006 Report Posted October 6, 2006 But what do you think of the MUSIC ? I recently played my copy and well... i'm not a big fan of this one. Lee was still very young, IMO. Quote
brownie Posted October 6, 2006 Report Posted October 6, 2006 Another Moggie gets over the 1K mark: Volume 3 This one looks better than the 'Indeed' vinyl! Quote
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