riverrat Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 (edited) I have not heard this session in several years, but recall really liking it. My early 90's McMaster versions were lost in a theft years ago, and I would like to re-acquire this music. I know that as a performance, this recording is pretty essential. Sonically it is reputed to be good but not great, unsurprising for a live recording from 1957. I am wondering if the BN Works a.k.a. "TOCJ" versions are worth the extra $$ and time to locate, or if the RVG sounds good enough. I could also just get used copies of the old McMasters as a fallback. To the best of my knowledge: 1. The McMasters were issued as Vol 1 and Vol 2 (2 separate CDs and cases). 2. The BN Works were issued as Vol 1, 2 and 3 (3 CDs). 3. The RVG is a 2CD package in a single case. I'd love to hear from anyone who has actually compared all of these. Failing that, some thoughts on the RVG would be appreciated, there was a lot of variation in how those sounded.. Edited January 26, 2011 by riverrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 I can't speak for the TCOJ variations, but imo the RVG is definitely preferable over the McMaster for having all the music in one place, plus a few extra stage announcements from Sonny. The sonics are good, though it is a kind of rough recording which is what I like about it in the first place. I think the Penguin Guide says it best: "The live material, originally cherrypicked for a single peerless LP, has now been stretched across two CDs, and in its latest incarnation the in-person feel is heightened by the addition of some more of Sonny's announcements. In the past we felt that the abundance of this material slightly checked the power-packed feel of the original LP, but in the new RVG edition the sound is extraordinarily deep and immediate, and the sheer impact of Rollins in top form is overwhelming -- hence our upgrading to crown status, since this is a model example of a classic record given its proper treatment." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 I agree. Get the RVG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 I've only heard the McMasters and the RVG. The RVG is my sonic preference. The sound to me seems much better. Deeper as the Penguin Guide says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 (edited) I have the RVG and three Japanese LPs - Vol. 1: King Japan and Vols. 2&3: Toshiba EMI Japan. I enjoy listening to the RVG a bit more. The sound isn't all that good on LP or CD, but the music is very fine. Edited January 26, 2011 by paul secor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Whichever one has the added/restored announcements is the one to get, just because. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 I have the RVG also. Works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 for the RVG. Although I haven't been a big fan of the RVG series, I think this one is a definite improvement over the previous release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverrat Posted January 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Thanks to all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 This is a "desert island" Sonny Rollins side IMO. Must have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesoul Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 http://www.npr.org/2017/11/03/561559986/sonny-rollins-spent-a-mythical-night-at-the-village-vanguard-60-years-ago-today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 2 hours ago, bluesoul said: http://www.npr.org/2017/11/03/561559986/sonny-rollins-spent-a-mythical-night-at-the-village-vanguard-60-years-ago-today Thanks for posting that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 This was great. I love Sonny's analysis of his own playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 one of the last pianists that Sonny hired before going to the trio was Dick Katz, who was forevermore somewhat pissed off that just as he got with Sonny, he was gone. and btw, Dawn Finney: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 The RVG set (on the back tray card) omits listing Donald Bailey and Pete LaRoca as playing on "I've Got You Under My Skin." This track was from the matinee performance. Did Rudy show up late to the matinee performance, or early to the evening set? I've always wondered why there are only two tracks with Donald Bailey and Pete LaRoca. Surely the afternoon trio played more than two songs. I've also wondered why there was an "afternoon trio" and an "evening trio" to begin with. Simply because Rollins was auditioning different musicians for an eventual band? If so, it would appear that he landed with Henry Grimes and Pete LaRoca. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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