riverrat Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 I just became aware of the fact that Cal Massey recorded a session under his own name, just this single one it seems. I sure like Massey's compositions that I've heard, probably the most memorable of which (for me) is "The Are Soulful Days" on Lee Morgan's Leeway. Is Massey's Blues For Coltrane worth picking up? If so, would there be any preference for either the 1st CD issue in 1987 or the next in 2006? (I.e. are those the same remastering?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 (edited) I can't comment on any differences in mastering, only the musical qualities of the session itself. Its far from perfect; there's a kind of tentativeness to the whole thing, as if the musicians are still grappling with all the implications of Massey's charts (I don't just mean the compositions, but the arrangements as well). But as a piece of documentary evidence, it is, IMO, invaluable. On the evidence of this recording, Brodie was, along with Bill Barron, one of the earliest / first tenor players to successfully "process" a strong Coltrane influence. Watkins is, as always, both elegant and incisive. Bown is not particularly well-served by either her instrument or the recording, but she does the best she can, and really digs into Massey's harmonies. There never enough G. T. Hogan to hear. As for Massey himself... he's no great virtuoso, or maybe he was having specific difficulties this day. But he has a distinctive voice on his instrument, and its fascinating to hear him elaborate on his own themes. Addendum: you might be surprised at how different Massey's take on "These Are Soulful Days" is compared to Morgan's. Edited January 23, 2011 by Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 I bought the CD when it first came out in the 80's. This was an unreleased session, and it was tantalizing. Overall I agree with riverrat's comments. There is some fine music to be heard here. The opportunity to hear from the scarcely recorded Hugh Brodie is a plus, but Massey's trumpet playing is, to be delicate, limited. It's not difficult to see why the session went unreleased originally. If you are intrigued by Massey's music (as I was), there's something here, but the date is flawed by Massey's limitations as a trumpeter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 The one track from this session that was contemporaneously released by Candid (on an anthology) (Father and Son) is the best track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 It's not a very great sessions, but it is a very real one. I treasure it, and highly, for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Yes, I enjoy it a lot! It's limited and tentative indeed, but it's very moving music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 I agree with several others' comments. It's not a great session, or even a very good one but, as Jim said, it's real. I'm glad I have it in my collection and there's always something there when I listen to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontooneous Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 The whole thing feels like a rehearsal tape (but what a rehearsal!). Can't imagine that remastering would help the sound of the ratty out-of-tune piano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 The newer version may be a CD-R. Bertrand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 What the others said. Massey's trumpet is somewhat shaky, but the tunes are very good, and the band does its best. That piano at Nola Penthouse Studios was more often out of tune than not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Generally agree on this not being what it coud/should/ might have been, but what it is is still well worth hearing. You could make a very nice CD-R of all the compositions of his others did on Blue Note (Lee M, Freddie H, Wayne S, am I forgetting someone?)and another of the ones Coltrane and Shepp did on Impulse. Is his son Zane stil active? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 not quite a cdr but Massey's son Taru presents podcasts along these and other lines here: http://www.digitalpodcast.com/detail.php?id=9936 iirc from a similar question, Zane Massey directs a houseband somewhere in Asia (say, Hong Kong) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverrat Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Thank you all for the knowledgeable comments! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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