chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted January 4, 2011 Report Posted January 4, 2011 i am listening to a rather good lp i just got today in the dollarbin, Art Blakey Drum Suite- and i actually dont know the story about the short relationship w. art blakey + his jazz messengers --&-- Columbia records has this been talked about? i wonder how he got hooked up with them, and if they planned to carry all his albums out all on columbia like miles davis or something, was columbia tryin to make art blakey into the drummer miles davis so thats why he split? Quote
brownie Posted January 4, 2011 Report Posted January 4, 2011 Looks like Art Blakey was not signed to any label in the mid-50s. Albums under his name appeared on various labels (EmArcy, Columbia, Pacific Jazz, Elektra, Vik, Bethlehem, ...) at the time. Quote
AndrewHill Posted January 4, 2011 Report Posted January 4, 2011 Sure wish Columbia/Legacy would've reissued Hard Bop before their reissue program crashed. Quote
John L Posted January 4, 2011 Report Posted January 4, 2011 Didn't Mosaic reissue it as a single? Quote
JSngry Posted January 4, 2011 Report Posted January 4, 2011 I thnk the deal was that Columbia signed the Jazz Messengers when they were still somewhat of a co-led venture. Then, when that blew up, there were Blakey & Silver albums in the wake, or something like that. Quote
brownie Posted January 4, 2011 Report Posted January 4, 2011 Didn't Mosaic reissue it as a single? Yes! With bonus tracks: Mosaic Hardbop Quote
AndrewHill Posted January 4, 2011 Report Posted January 4, 2011 Didn't Mosaic reissue it as a single? Yes! With bonus tracks: Mosaic Hardbop So there is! I have the Sony Japan edition, and always thought that there would be bonus material that a potential Legacy edition would augment to the originnal album, and as it turn out, there is. Thanks for bringing this to my attention John and Brownie Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted July 10, 2012 Report Posted July 10, 2012 How many albums were there? I know of these: Jazz Messengers Drum Suite Hard Bop Paris Concert Quote
brownie Posted July 11, 2012 Report Posted July 11, 2012 There's also one session by the Jazz Messengers (Byrd, Mobley, Silver, Watkins, Blakey) with Dutch singer Rita Reys Quote
Brad Posted July 11, 2012 Report Posted July 11, 2012 That Rita Reys session is a new one on me. Pardon me for being lazy but is that available, and is it worth buying, if available. Quote
jazzbo Posted July 11, 2012 Report Posted July 11, 2012 This was released maybe ten years ago as a Japanese lp facsimile of the Phillips session. It's an interesting session, but far from essential for Jazz Messengers fans. Quote
Tom 1960 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Posted July 11, 2012 There's also one session by the Jazz Messengers (Byrd, Mobley, Silver, Watkins, Blakey) with Dutch singer Rita Reys Funny. The stuff you can learn from this board! Quote
brownie Posted July 11, 2012 Report Posted July 11, 2012 One of the very first item I sold to Fred Cohen at his Jazz Record Center was a Dutch 45RPM EP that had the four tunes recorded by Rita Reys with the Jazz Messengers. This was after I found a very decent copy of the Columbia LP. Quote
flat5 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) The Rita Reys LP has just been featured in a jazz blog. It's at a host site. Rita Reys - The Cool Voice Of Rita Reys 1956 01 It's All Right With Me 02 Gone With The Wind 03 My Funny Valentine 04 But Not For Me 05 I Should Care 06 There Will Never Be Another You 07 I Cried For You 08 You'd Be So Nice To Come Home With Me 09 My One And Only Love 10 That Old Black Magic 11 Spring Will Be A Little Late This Year 12 Taking A Chance On Love Vocals - Rita Reys (tracks: All) Bass - Chris Bender (tracks: 03) , Dick Bezemer (tracks: 01, 02, 04, 05, 06) Doug Watkins (tracks: 07, 08, 10, 12) , Wilbur Ware (tracks: 09, 11) Drums - Art Blakey (tracks: 07, 08, 09, 10, 11, 12) , Wes Ilcken (tracks: 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06) Piano - Horace Silver (tracks: 07, 08, 10, 12) , Jerry Van Rooyen (tracks: 03) , Kenny Drew (tracks: 09, 11) Rob Madna (tracks: 01, 02, 04, 05, 06) Tenor Sax - Hank Mobley (tracks: 07, 08, 10, 12) , Ira Sullivan (tracks: 09, 11) , Jerry Van Rooyen (tracks: 01, 02, 04) , Toon van Vliet (tracks: 03, 05, 06) Trumpet - Donald Byrd (tracks: 07, 08, 09, 10, 11, 12) , Herman Schoonderwalt (tracks: 01, 02, 03, 04) Jerry Van Rooyen (tracks: 05, 06) Producer - George Avakian Edited July 11, 2012 by flat5 Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted July 12, 2012 Report Posted July 12, 2012 I had a Rita Reys LP on Epic from the same period. The arrangements were by Tom Dissevelt, most famous for his electronic music. It was a good album, nothing earth-shattering. I sold it on eBay for a lot of money. Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted July 12, 2012 Author Report Posted July 12, 2012 theres a whole bunch of photos from the rita session that were posted here once Quote
Bill Nelson Posted July 12, 2012 Report Posted July 12, 2012 My copy of Reys' 'Cool Voice' was in a batch of minty vocal LPs which Nic Barber had just brought in thru the rear door of his record shop in Marietta, GA (next to Rocco's Pub). Even though I'd never heard of her, the cover photo of Rita standing behind Blakey's drum cases was all it took. "This Reys album goes for something...so I'll have to get $18 for it." From the same collection I got a Julie London ('Around Midnight' with her 'stems' as clock hands) and a Mel Torme on Bethlehem ('Sings Astaire'). Quote
brownie Posted July 12, 2012 Report Posted July 12, 2012 theres a whole bunch of photos from the rita session that were posted here once These ones! Quote
David Ayers Posted July 12, 2012 Report Posted July 12, 2012 (edited) Spotify to the rescue, yet again It's good! Edited July 12, 2012 by David Ayers Quote
medjuck Posted July 12, 2012 Report Posted July 12, 2012 I didn't think Silver was present on any records issued under the name "Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers". I thought that version of the Messengers was still a co-operative. I just noticed however that the cd release of the Columbia 1956 "Jazz Messengers" release labels it an Art Blakey record though the original Lp doesn't seem to have done so and the original liner notes refer to the band as a co-operative. Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted July 13, 2012 Author Report Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) who was signing jazz at columbia in 1956, this record doesnt say john hammond was involved right, i wonder why columbia didnt work out. i mean if the columbia lp took off and blakey made all those albums for Columbia instead of Blue Note............ Edited July 13, 2012 by chewy Quote
Cyril Posted July 13, 2012 Report Posted July 13, 2012 There's also one session by the Jazz Messengers (Byrd, Mobley, Silver, Watkins, Blakey) with Dutch singer Rita Reys Funny. The stuff you can learn from this board! In 2004 George Avakian spoke with jazz journalist Bert Vuijsje, author of Rita Reys: 'Lady Jazz', about the recording sessions with Rita and The Jazz Messengers, and told him: "Rita could really swing. It was the swinging quality of her phrasing that persuaded me, and which also impressed the musicians. They recognized right away that she could stay right with them. That is exactly what happened on that record, and everybody can still hear it today". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P8nDV-Pum0 Quote
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