Fer Urbina Posted December 23, 2010 Report Posted December 23, 2010 As long as it has all the Getz-Brookmeyer studio recordings, I'm happy. It is astonishing that they've never been done properly. I did a Spotify playlist and put it up in my blog, and the music is incredible. I've lobbied for a 3-CD set with all the SG-BB 1953-1954 recordings (studio plus At the Shrine); besides the music itself, Brookmeyer and pianist John Williams are alive and well as far as I know, and that'd make a nice interview for the liner notes. What I do hope (in vain, I guess) is that the Hip-O guys review their prices. At least in Europe they're simply ridiculous. F Quote
Kyo Posted December 23, 2010 Report Posted December 23, 2010 (edited) Amazon.com lists it with a February 2011 release date. Really looking forward to this! I suggested something like this to Mosaic Records almost three years ago. Michael Cuscuna told me that Verve had shot down their idea to do a big Getz box including this material earlier, but he thanked me for bringing up the idea again because he thought they would probably be more receptive to the idea of such a 3CD set today. Guess they were! Edited December 23, 2010 by Kyo Quote
J.A.W. Posted December 23, 2010 Report Posted December 23, 2010 Amazon.com lists it with a February 2011 release date. Yep, here. It wasn't there when I did a search yesterday. Quote
J.A.W. Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 Details on the Hip-O site What Quintet does for both the Getz and Granz legacies is present the recordings in their original 10-inch LP form – Stan Getz Plays, The Artistry of Stan Getz and the three Interpretations LPs – while adding the singles not on the LPs and other bonus material from the sessions. While Getz in the period from late 1952 through early 1955 recorded with a core quintet – particularly with trombonist Bob Brookmeyer – included in the bonus material are quartet dates featuring drummer Max Roach. Most appealing for the jazz fan is the discovery of three previously unreleased alternate takes recently discovered in the Verve vault. Tracklisting: Disc 1 1. Stella by Starlight 2. Time on My Hands 3. ’Tis Autumn 4. The Way You Look Tonight 5. Lover Come Back to Me 6. Body and Soul 7. Stars Fell on Alabama 8. You Turned the Tables on Me 9. Thanks for the Memory 10. Hymn of the Orient 11. These Foolish Things (Remind Me of You) 12. How Deep Is the Ocean? 13. Have You Met Miss Jones? 14. Erudition 15. Cool Mix 16. Rustic Hop 17. Love and the Weather 18. Spring Is Here 19. Crazy Rhythm Disc 2 1. Willow Weep for Me 2. The Nearness of You 3. Pot Luck 4. Minor Blues 5. Fascinatin’ Rhythm 6. I Don’t Know What Time It Was 7. Tangerine 8. Pot Luck (Single Version) 9. It Don’t Mean a Thing (Alternate Version) 10. I Hadn’t Anyone ’Til You 11. Down by the Sycamore Tree 12. With the Wind and the Rain in Your Hair 13. Nobody Else But Me 14. I Hadn’t Anyone ’Til You (Alternate Take) 15. Nobody Else But Me (Alternate Take) Disc 3 1. It Don’t Mean a Thing 2. The Varsity Drag 3. Give Me the Simple Life 4. Oh, Jane Snavely 5. I’ll Remember April 6. We’ll Be Together Again (EP Version) 7. We’ll Be Together Again (LP Version) 8. Feather Merchant 8. Feather Merchant 9. Flamingo 10. Blue Bells 11. Round Up Time As far as I can see the January 31, 1955 date is the last session on the set, which means that the West Coast Jazz sessions (the first on the East of the Sun set) are not included. Quote
brownie Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 The set does include everything from the quintet studio sessions Will be looking for that one! Quote
king ubu Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 That's great news! Glad then I held out on buying the Lonehill! Quote
J.A.W. Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 The set does include everything from the quintet studio sessions Plus the January 23, 1954 quartet session with Jimmy Rowles, Bobby Whitlock and Max Roach! Quote
ghost of miles Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 Excellent news--really psyched about this set! Quote
Head Man Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 Good news about the release but......£50 is a bit pricey for me. I'll wait and see whether I can pick it up cheaper later. Quote
J.A.W. Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 Good news about the release but......£50 is a bit pricey for me. I'll wait and see whether I can pick it up cheaper later. Same here. Hip-O CD-sets have a standard price tag of just under $20 per disc, which is a bit steep in my opinion. They're often cheaper on Amazon. Quote
Head Man Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 (edited) I've just finished checking the track listing with my Bruynickx discography and here are some more details: Disc 1 Stan Getz (ts) Duke Jordan (p) Jimmy Raney (g) Bill Crow (b) Frank Isola (d) New York, December 12, 1952 1. Stella by Starlight 2. Time on My Hands 3. ’Tis Autumn 4. The Way You Look Tonight 5. Lover Come Back to Me 6. Body and Soul 7. Stars Fell on Alabama 8. You Turned the Tables on Me New York, December 12, 1952 9. Thanks for the Memory 10. Hymn of the Orient 11. These Foolish Things (Remind Me of You) 12. How Deep Is the Ocean? Stan Getz Quintet : Bob Brookmeyer (v-tb) Stan Getz (ts) Johnny Williams (p) Bill Crow (b) Al Levitt (d) New York, May 16, 1953 13. Have You Met Miss Jones? 14. Erudition 15. Cool Mix 16. Rustic Hop Stan Getz/Bob Brookmeyer Quintet : Bob Brookmeyer (v-tb) Stan Getz (ts) Johnny Williams (p) Teddy Kotick (b) Frank Isola (d) Hollywood, July 30, 1953 17. Love and the Weather 18. Spring Is Here 19. Crazy Rhythm Disc 2 Stan Getz/Bob Brookmeyer Quintet : Bob Brookmeyer (v-tb) Stan Getz (ts) Johnny Williams (p) Teddy Kotick (b) Frank Isola (d) Hollywood, August 15 & 22, 1953 1. Willow Weep for Me 2. The Nearness of You 3. Pot Luck 4. Minor Blues 5. Fascinatin’ Rhythm 6. I Don’t Know What Time It Was 7. Tangerine 8. Pot Luck (Single Version) 9. It Don’t Mean a Thing (Alternate Version) Stan Getz Quartet : Stan Getz (ts) Jimmy Rowles (p) Bob Whitlock (b) Max Roach (d) Hollywood, January 23, 1954 10. I Hadn’t Anyone ’Til You 11. Down by the Sycamore Tree 12. With the Wind and the Rain in Your Hair 13. Nobody Else But Me 14. I Hadn’t Anyone ’Til You (Alternate Take) 15. Nobody Else But Me (Alternate Take) Disc 3 Stan Getz Quartet : Bob Brookmeyer (v-tb) Stan Getz (ts) Johnny Williams (p) Bill Anthony (b) Art Mardigan (d) Los Angeles, November 9, 1954 1. It Don’t Mean a Thing 2. The Varsity Drag 3. Give Me the Simple Life 4. Oh, Jane Snavely 5. I’ll Remember April 6. We’ll Be Together Again (EP Version) 7. We’ll Be Together Again (LP Version) 8. Feather Merchant 8. Feather Merchant 9. Flamingo Stan Getz Quintet : Tony Fruscel1a (tp) Stan Getz (ts) Johnny Williams (p) Bill Anthony (b) Frank Isola (d) New York, January 31, 1955 10. Blue Bells 11. Round Up Time The tracks highlighted in blue (not all the versions) were previously released on the Definitive CD - "Bob Brookmeyer - Complete 1953-1954 Quintet Studio Recordings with Stan Getz" Edited January 11, 2011 by Head Man Quote
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 Mosaic may do an LP version. Just received the email for this. Says 'Morgran'. Looks like a nice set. Quote
crisp Posted January 18, 2011 Author Report Posted January 18, 2011 The vinyl is official: http://www.mosaicrecords.com/genres.asp?dept=50 Stan Getz: The 1953-54 Morgran Studio Sessions (4 Audiophile LPs) (Release Date; May 2011) Even in a career as celebrated and prolific as Stan Getz's, there are pockets of neglected gems that dot the landscape. In the case of Getz, one of those overlooked areas is his 1953-54 Clef Norgan recordings with a working quintet that included valve trombonist Bob Brookmeyeer and pianist Johnny Williams (who later became film composer John Williams). The band recorded several excellent albums for Clef and Norgran during those years, but when Clef and Norgran were phased out and the material was recycled on Verve, the tracks from these recording sessions were scattered over many 12" LPs which combined them with other groups from other sessions and some were forgotten altogether. So the impact of the body of work that this group left behind was diluted by the manner in which it was re-released on Verve in the decades that followed. This Mosaic LP-only set returns to the original LP masters and sequence to restore clarity and shape to this exceptional quintet. When Brookmeyer left Getz to join Gerry Mulligan, legendary trumpeter Tony Fruscella replaced him in the final months of the band, long enough to record two extended tunes included here. Midway through the quintet's life, Getz recorded a little-known but superb quartet session with Jimmy Rowles, Bob Whitlock and Max Roach, the four sides of which were also released in splintered form throughout the hears. Now all of this material is gathered in one place on four 180-gram audiophile LPs with three previously unissued alternate takes and the 78 take of "Pot Luck", giving the music its full due and historical perspective. Quote
tranemonk Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 I don't get this partnership at all... Hip-O-Select is a relatively new player with overpriced recordings and mediocre packaging... Why not release the Getz as a Mosaic Select? I hope this is not a portend of things to come.... Quote
Bol Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 I don't get this partnership at all... Hip-O-Select is a relatively new player with overpriced recordings and mediocre packaging... Why not release the Getz as a Mosaic Select? I hope this is not a portend of things to come.... Hip-O or its parent company probably holds the copyright, and was willing to let Mosaic do the LPs to coincide with its own CD release. I've been wanting these "Interpretations" recordings for a while, and am happy that they are coming out. Some of them were available in Japanese CDs, but not all. And the only other alternative was buying very expensive or very scratched-up LPs. Quote
J.A.W. Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 I don't get this partnership at all... Hip-O-Select is a relatively new player with overpriced recordings and mediocre packaging... Why not release the Getz as a Mosaic Select? I hope this is not a portend of things to come.... Hip-O or its parent company probably holds the copyright, and was willing to let Mosaic do the LPs to coincide with its own CD release. I've been wanting these "Interpretations" recordings for a while, and am happy that they are coming out. Some of them were available in Japanese CDs, but not all. And the only other alternative was buying very expensive or very scratched-up LPs. Correct. Hip-O's owners, Universal, would not allow Mosaic to do a CD-set. Apparently the Mosaic Getz will not include the 1952 sides that the Hip-O Select 3CD-set has. I've asked Mosaic about this. I will post their reply here. Quote
tranemonk Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 So does this mean that Hip-O-Select is the new bully on the block... My main issue is that their stuff is really overpriced (presumably justified by them with extremely mediocre and unnecessary packaging...)... I thought we were done with BAD overpriced packaging at the end of the 1990s :( Quote
king ubu Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 J.A.W.: just to be sure - the quartet date with Rowles and Roach will be included, then - this one: Stan Getz Quartet : Stan Getz (ts) Jimmy Rowles (p) Bob Whitlock (b) Max Roach (d) Hollywood, January 23, 1954 10. I Hadn’t Anyone ’Til You 11. Down by the Sycamore Tree 12. With the Wind and the Rain in Your Hair 13. Nobody Else But Me 14. I Hadn’t Anyone ’Til You (Alternate Take) 15. Nobody Else But Me (Alternate Take) It's been on the CD of "Plays", that's why I'm asking... and I'd hate to miss out on the new alternate takes by buying the Mosaic LP set (which I'll probably rather do than getting the Hip-O, now that I have the choice... but then the Mosaic price will be even more ridiculous than the Hip-O, I assume...) Quote
J.A.W. Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 J.A.W.: just to be sure - the quartet date with Rowles and Roach will be included, then - this one: Stan Getz Quartet : Stan Getz (ts) Jimmy Rowles (p) Bob Whitlock (b) Max Roach (d) Hollywood, January 23, 1954 10. I Hadn’t Anyone ’Til You 11. Down by the Sycamore Tree 12. With the Wind and the Rain in Your Hair 13. Nobody Else But Me 14. I Hadn’t Anyone ’Til You (Alternate Take) 15. Nobody Else But Me (Alternate Take) It's been on the CD of "Plays", that's why I'm asking... and I'd hate to miss out on the new alternate takes by buying the Mosaic LP set (which I'll probably rather do than getting the Hip-O, now that I have the choice... but then the Mosaic price will be even more ridiculous than the Hip-O, I assume...) They mentioned the quartet date with Rowles, Whitlock and Roach in their e-mail and on their site, so yes, I guess it will be included. As it looks now the 1952 stuff will not be included, so if you want it you'll have to get the Hip-O Select set - unless Mosaic will include it after all. Quote
king ubu Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 We all have the "Stan Getz Plays" CD anyway, don't we? It has been around for decades, making the sales bins at least twice a year in Zurich Got to check my mail (and actually read beyond the subject line ) Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 Mosaic issued the 1952 items before in their first Getz set. Quote
king ubu Posted January 18, 2011 Report Posted January 18, 2011 Mosaic issued the 1952 items before in their first Getz set. Ah yes - and their policy keeps them from releasing it again. No problem with me - although I had to piece the Getz/Raney set together with various CDs (but then the Roost 3CD set is as fine a unit, I guess, as was the Mosaic!) Quote
crisp Posted January 18, 2011 Author Report Posted January 18, 2011 So does this mean that Hip-O-Select is the new bully on the block... It's not unprecidented for Mosaic to release a vinyl edition of another label's CD release. Sony's Miles boxed sets were dealt with in this way. I imagine Universal thinks that a CD release would do well in the stores while a vinyl one would be better off in the specialist mail-order market. Agree with you about Hip-O's price/packaging, though. Quote
J.A.W. Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 Mosaic issued the 1952 items before in their first Getz set. Ah yes, of course, forgot about that one. So does this mean that Hip-O-Select is the new bully on the block... Agree with you about Hip-O's price/packaging, though. So do I. And I also have problems with their usually quite "loud" and sometimes harsh-sounding mastering. I hope the Getz set will not be as loud and harsh as some of their other sets. Quote
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