undergroundagent Posted December 23, 2003 Report Posted December 23, 2003 (edited) Can anyone comment on either "Minor Swing" or "This One's for J.A."? I just made a trade with a fellow board member, but I'm curious how thes music sounds. Edited December 24, 2003 by undergroundagent Quote
Man with the Golden Arm Posted December 23, 2003 Report Posted December 23, 2003 Both "sound" fantastic as the latter title is homage to Jim Anderson who recorded the two for DIW. And if you have a chance the original gatefold sleeves are beautiful for having a few of Wolff's color work represented in glorious high gloss. I would not hesitate on 'Minor Swing' one moment. Essential stuff. Don't be put off by Zorn here as he only really takes his "liberties" on the first cut "The Way I Feel". (he's only producer of the 'JA' disc) And it is not the same show as on the PaddleWheel/Evidence 'Blue Planet Man'. The star of the show here is Ed Cherry. The guy is so on it's ridiculous. As is Kenny Wolleson on drums. 'This One's for J.A.' for me is of lesser quality performance-wise. A mellower mood that rides nicely without many fierey moments. Dave Hubbard, the saxophonist, doesn't quite kick it. Reminds me a bit of the playing on some of the late BN stuff such as 'Accent...' and 'Memphis...'. It is though absolutely stunning in resolution. If it is Big John's swan song then...? These DIWs recorded by Anderson will make your system happy. The only distortion you may encounter here are your windows. Quote
bertrand Posted December 23, 2003 Report Posted December 23, 2003 I was under the impression that J.A. was Jimmy Anderson, a legendary Newark saxophonist who passed away not long before these were recorded. But I could be wrong - I have never read the liner notes. Thelma Patton told me there was at least one more session in the can from this period. Something to look forward to? Bertrand. Quote
Man with the Golden Arm Posted December 24, 2003 Report Posted December 24, 2003 I was under the impression that J.A. was Jimmy Anderson, a legendary Newark saxophonist who passed away not long before these were recorded. But I could be wrong - I have never read the liner notes. Thelma Patton told me there was at least one more session in the can from this period. Something to look forward to? Bertrand. You are correct, Bertrand. I had no idea that "Jimmy Anderson" was not the sometime poster and engineer magnifico. It's been about five years since i had read Pekar's notes for this and he mentions nothing of the saxophonist in his text but the last credit reads: "Dedicated to out friend, Jimmy Anderson". Thanks for pointing that out and correcting my assumption. Quote
undergroundagent Posted December 24, 2003 Author Report Posted December 24, 2003 And the actual music? Quote
Harold_Z Posted December 24, 2003 Report Posted December 24, 2003 I was under the impression that J.A. was Jimmy Anderson, a legendary Newark saxophonist who passed away not long before these were recorded. I had the good fortune to do several gigs with Jimmy. He was one helluva saxophonist! Too bad he's so underecorded. I don't have anything on record by him. I saw him in a group with Big John and guitarist Geary Moore around 1987 or so. Quote
Man with the Golden Arm Posted December 24, 2003 Report Posted December 24, 2003 And the actual music? I'm confused. I see you have clarified yourself in the just edited intro post. ??? I guess I could have edited the post with my error too and then made everyone not know wtf Bertrand was talking about? The initial post was regarding the "sound of these two discs" to paraphrase memory... Well obviously not hesitating, essential and some other positive adjectives are more about the whole of these than just the "sound" of course. But now that I really "sound" like an idiot on this thread I guess I'll just tell you that they both suck and that you should maybe buy some Walter Wanderly instead. Quote
undergroundagent Posted December 25, 2003 Author Report Posted December 25, 2003 No, you're post was very helpful...I just wanted to get an idea what I'd be hearing in terms of music. For example, is Patton's unique organ sound still present? Or is it a dramatic drop-off from his Blue Note material? Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted December 25, 2003 Report Posted December 25, 2003 I told Underground that I thought these two sessions are inferior to Big John's Blue Note output in his prime. They are quite a bit more mellow and definitely less fiery. However, I don't feel my tastes match Underground's at all. He likes some soul jazz that I don't particularly care for. So he should really judge these for himself. Doesn't hurt to get other opinions of course. I rate them at 3 stars. Even Big John past his prime is still superior to most other organists. I wouldn't quite call them essential, but they might be valuable to Big John Patton lovers. I also feel that Hubbard's playing verged on awful on "This One's For Ja." Conversely, I thought Zorn was a great addition on "Minor Swing." Quote
undergroundagent Posted December 31, 2003 Author Report Posted December 31, 2003 Thanks, fellas! I'll listen when I get back. Quote
Clunky Posted January 1, 2004 Report Posted January 1, 2004 I love the Minor Swing DIW session, grooves as well as any of his BN output, I en!!!joy Zorns freak out Quote
undergroundagent Posted January 6, 2004 Author Report Posted January 6, 2004 (edited) I actually enjoy both of these sessions after listening to them yesterday. While it's true that they're not quite up to the standards of his past output, they're still very good sessions that merit repeated listens. Edited January 6, 2004 by undergroundagent Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted January 7, 2004 Report Posted January 7, 2004 Glad you like em, Underground. Quote
JSngry Posted January 7, 2004 Report Posted January 7, 2004 Patton's Nilva LP is the "missing link" as well as da'BOMB! Quote
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