John L Posted December 16, 2010 Report Posted December 16, 2010 up - anyone has an idea where jazzdisco.org might have gotten their "early 1953" date from? The date is disputed. One reason I believe is that Jimmy Woode was with Ellington in 1955. Quote
medjuck Posted December 16, 2010 Report Posted December 16, 2010 up - anyone has an idea where jazzdisco.org might have gotten their "early 1953" date from? The date is disputed. One reason I believe is that Jimmy Woode was with Ellington in 1955. Losin makes a pretty good argument: Although the tunes performed (especially "Jumpin' with Symphony Sid," "Ray's Idea," and "Wee Dot") might suggest an earlier date, the customary date for this set is pretty close to correct. Davis was booked as a single at the Hi-Hat Club for two consecutive weeks in February 1955, joined by Boston locals Migliori, Walcott, Woode, and Zitano. According to Down Beat, a Davis engagement advertised in Detroit for February 11-13 had to be canceled "because of a prior commitment in Boston... Davis was held over at the Hi-Hat for an extra week to share the stand with an R & B group called The Chords" (DB March 23, 1955). My guess is that the Hi-Hat engagement began in early February. (Thanks to Chris DeVito for help with this date.) "Jumpin' with Symphony Sid," performed here at a very slow tempo, is clearly a set-closer, and the music may be from more than one night. I'm slightly acquainted with Jimmy Woode's daughter and if I see her around I'll ask her( though I doubt that she has any knowledge of her father's whereabouts in February 1955). Quote
brownie Posted December 17, 2010 Report Posted December 17, 2010 Fact is that Jimmy Woode was with the Duke Ellington band at the time. W.E. Timner's 'Ellingtonia' lists Woode playing with Ellington as of January 1, 1955 and includes Ellington dates with Woode in Burlington, Ontario, in February 1955. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted December 17, 2010 Report Posted December 17, 2010 Technically, a 1955 recording is no longer a bootleg in the EU. It's public domain there. Anyone can distribute it in the EU. Quote
John L Posted December 17, 2010 Report Posted December 17, 2010 (edited) Technically, a 1955 recording is no longer a bootleg in the EU. It's public domain there. Anyone can distribute it in the EU. Once a bootleg, always a bootleg. It is not a question of whether or not some countries make it legal or illegal. It is a question of agreement from, and compensation to, artists or their estates. Edited December 17, 2010 by John L Quote
djcavanagh Posted December 17, 2010 Report Posted December 17, 2010 (edited) Technically, a 1955 recording is no longer a bootleg in the EU. It's public domain there. Anyone can distribute it in the EU. Once a bootleg, always a bootleg. It is not a question of whether or not some countries make it legal or illegal. It is a question of agreement from, and compensation to, artists or their estates. Ethically that is true but as we know people will make different ethical conclusions. Legally I suspect Kevin is correct. Edited December 17, 2010 by djcavanagh Quote
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