Big Wheel Posted March 5, 2011 Report Posted March 5, 2011 Doing some searching, I found several threads on other boards that describe something similar happening with the Plugged Nickel box last summer. Amazon was ultimately unable to fill the orders...I wonder if some supplier is doing something shady that causes Amazon to list it as in stock, or if it's just an error of some kind. In any case I'm not holding my breath on this one. Quote
king ubu Posted March 5, 2011 Report Posted March 5, 2011 That's bizarre. "May require an extra 1 to 2 days to process"? I wonder where they are sourcing these from? That remark is rather common on many amazon listings. Quote
Stefan Wood Posted March 5, 2011 Report Posted March 5, 2011 It covers the amount of time needed to manufacture a "new" box set. Quote
Big Wheel Posted March 5, 2011 Report Posted March 5, 2011 That's bizarre. "May require an extra 1 to 2 days to process"? I wonder where they are sourcing these from? That remark is rather common on many amazon listings. Really? I don't think I've ever seen it for music on Amazon US. But maybe I don't often search for stuff that's likely to be backordered. I tend to think Stefan isn't far off the mark - could these be manufactured on demand? Quote
jlhoots Posted March 5, 2011 Report Posted March 5, 2011 That's bizarre. "May require an extra 1 to 2 days to process"? I wonder where they are sourcing these from? That remark is rather common on many amazon listings. Really? I don't think I've ever seen it for music on Amazon US. But maybe I don't often search for stuff that's likely to be backordered. I tend to think Stefan isn't far off the mark - could these be manufactured on demand? I've seen it. Last time was on a vocal CD by a singer named Lykke Li (great name BTW). Quote
Ron S Posted March 5, 2011 Report Posted March 5, 2011 That's bizarre. "May require an extra 1 to 2 days to process"? I wonder where they are sourcing these from? That remark is rather common on many amazon listings. Really? I don't think I've ever seen it for music on Amazon US. But maybe I don't often search for stuff that's likely to be backordered. I tend to think Stefan isn't far off the mark - could these be manufactured on demand? Amazon generally includes a statement that a product is a CD-R, if that's what it is. I've seen the extra-1-to-2-days statement on Amazon before, but more on Amazon.co.uk. My impression has always been that it's because the product is sourced from a supplier other than Amazon's own warehouses. Quote
king ubu Posted March 5, 2011 Report Posted March 5, 2011 Sorry for the belated reply - on French and German Amazon, that "may need 1 or 2 days..." remark is very common and for regular CDs. So far I've only bought two CD-Rs on demand (both by mistake, but happily they start making it more visible when a product isn't a CD) and I must have bought two or three dozen regular CDs with that remark! Quote
mellowT Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 Doing some searching, I found several threads on other boards that describe something similar happening with the Plugged Nickel box last summer. Amazon was ultimately unable to fill the orders...I wonder if some supplier is doing something shady that causes Amazon to list it as in stock, or if it's just an error of some kind. In any case I'm not holding my breath on this one. We'll certainly wait and see. I was one of those buyers last summer. I remember someone on eBay selling a mint copy for $130 around the same time and chuckling to myself, well I just scored a brand new one for less. Silly me. This time Amazon claims "Only X left in stock--order soon (more on the way)". Really? How endless is this supply? Quote
Big Wheel Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 Doing some searching, I found several threads on other boards that describe something similar happening with the Plugged Nickel box last summer. Amazon was ultimately unable to fill the orders...I wonder if some supplier is doing something shady that causes Amazon to list it as in stock, or if it's just an error of some kind. In any case I'm not holding my breath on this one. We'll certainly wait and see. I was one of those buyers last summer. I remember someone on eBay selling a mint copy for $130 around the same time and chuckling to myself, well I just scored a brand new one for less. Silly me. This time Amazon claims "Only X left in stock--order soon (more on the way)". Really? How endless is this supply? That usually does seem to be reliable, in my experience. Of course, all these descriptions are marketing language that likely not-so-perfectly maps to specific codes in their supply chain. For instance, the system might be set up to only show the "more on the way" message when a) the stock drops below a certain number of units AND b) their supplier has included that item in its next shipment, but if, say, it's set up to display that even if b) is not the case, then in a minority of cases you'll see "more on the way" even when the item is permanently gone. "Available from these sellers" doesn't seem to mean "we're never getting this back" - I noticed the Lady Day box on Amazon.uk disappeared for about a week in February after about a day showing something like "Temporarily Out of Stock", but then they appear to have gotten more boxes in and one is now on its way to me. Quote
trane_fanatic Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 (edited) Doing some searching, I found several threads on other boards that describe something similar happening with the Plugged Nickel box last summer. Amazon was ultimately unable to fill the orders...I wonder if some supplier is doing something shady that causes Amazon to list it as in stock, or if it's just an error of some kind. In any case I'm not holding my breath on this one. Yep.. according to those same threads, however, people have been getting copies this time around. Apparently, it's the real Columbia/SME manufactured Plugged Nickel box, not CD-Rs. In the Miles "trumpet case" mega collection, there is a blank space left for one more set. Hmm. Could this be the first sign of SME reissuing the PN sessions one final time before the CD reissue boom era (already being administered last rites) becomes extinct? Edited March 6, 2011 by trane_fanatic Quote
JohnJ Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 The Italians are at it again - 15 disc box set of Bill Evans (Riverside and Milestone) for less than 40 Euros - http://www.amazon.it/Riverside-Milestone-Albums-Evans-Bill/dp/B004I289FE/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1298146153&sr=1-1 Here are the details of this boxed set: link It apparently contains these albums: New Jazz Conceptions Tenderly Everybody Digs Bill Evans On Green Dolphin Street Portrait in Jazz Explorations Sunday at the Village Vanguard Waltz For Debby How My Heart Sings! Moon Beams Interplay Loose Blues The Solo Sessions Vol. 1 The Solo Sessions Vol. 2 At Shelly's Manne-Hole Tempting. Anybody know whether this box uses the latest remasters? Quote
king ubu Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 John Surman - Glancing Backwards: The Dawn Anthology Arrived today... apart from not having a personnel listing (relevant only for "Conflagration", actually - and some info mgith be in the liners), this looks like a nice package! Just got it in the mail, haven't listened to any of it yet. Quote
sidewinder Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 John Surman - Glancing Backwards: The Dawn Anthology Arrived today... apart from not having a personnel listing (relevant only for "Conflagration", actually - and some info mgith be in the liners), this looks like a nice package! Just got it in the mail, haven't listened to any of it yet. Essential stuff ! Listen to the track 'Caractacus'. Perfectly conjours up images of renegade Celtic Brit bandits doing last ditch guerilla warfare with Roman invaders to me ! Quote
djcavanagh Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 Doing some searching, I found several threads on other boards that describe something similar happening with the Plugged Nickel box last summer. Amazon was ultimately unable to fill the orders...I wonder if some supplier is doing something shady that causes Amazon to list it as in stock, or if it's just an error of some kind. In any case I'm not holding my breath on this one. Yep.. according to those same threads, however, people have been getting copies this time around. Apparently, it's the real Columbia/SME manufactured Plugged Nickel box, not CD-Rs. In the Miles "trumpet case" mega collection, there is a blank space left for one more set. Hmm. Could this be the first sign of SME reissuing the PN sessions one final time before the CD reissue boom era (already being administered last rites) becomes extinct? I've seen some discussion on this in the past that isn't consistent with my understanding. I was in the Jazz Record Mart in Chicago last June and they had a new copy in stock that they were selling for list price. I asked them about it and they said they'd just gotten it in. They had been told that it had never actually gone out of print (as I think Sony were still accepting orders) just that it was backordered. So last year there definitely were new copies of this around and stricly speaking it hadn't gone "out of print". It looks like the same thing has happened again. And the "space" in the trumpet set was, I believe, for the t-shirt rather than any other box set. Quote
Big Wheel Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 Very strange. Hasn't it been at least 7 or 8 years since the set was widely available? If there's a similar case of something being backordered for almost a decade, I can't think of one. Quote
mellowT Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 Never heard of a set on backorder for 7 years and still coming through, though I must admit my 3-month True Blue order of Gigi Gryce - The Hap'nin's might turn out that way. True Blue claims the manufacturer hasn't officially told them it's out-of-print, so they're still expecting it to come in. My credit card will probably be expired by then. Quote
king ubu Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 L'Histoire des Big Bands / The Story of Big Bands 14.45€ - 2 left of this 10CD set compiled by André Francis & Jean Schwarz (the folks behind the other wallet boxes presenting jazz from the beginnings). Got mine today, outer box somewhat crushed but other than that, all fine. Quote
djcavanagh Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 Very strange. Hasn't it been at least 7 or 8 years since the set was widely available? If there's a similar case of something being backordered for almost a decade, I can't think of one. I bought mine in 2002 but I seem to recall it being around for a good few years after that. Quote
Scorpionjazz Posted March 13, 2011 Report Posted March 13, 2011 Very strange. Hasn't it been at least 7 or 8 years since the set was widely available? If there's a similar case of something being backordered for almost a decade, I can't think of one. I don't know if backordered or reissued but... Plugged Nickel will be back very soon: http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Live-Plugged-Nickel-1965/dp/B000002B01/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_4 ... on 15th March according to amazon.com I already have it but it is very, very nice to know that it will be available again. Go for it. It is a dream of concert! Quote
mellowT Posted March 13, 2011 Report Posted March 13, 2011 Go for it. It is a dream of concert! I figure if Mosaic Records went through the trouble of making an LP version for it, it's gotta be good. Got my shipping notice two days ago. Quote
jazzbo Posted March 30, 2011 Report Posted March 30, 2011 One day only bargain for Haydn lovers: http://www.popmarket.com/details/5747694 Quote
greggery peccary Posted March 31, 2011 Report Posted March 31, 2011 What is Popmarket? A pain in the ass place that never confirmed my "membership" using two different emails but put me on their email list just the same. I won't go there now out of principle. Quote
jazzbo Posted March 31, 2011 Report Posted March 31, 2011 A place where I got the new Aretha Franklin box for 79.99 and free shipping. So it's alright with me. It's an arm of Legacy Recordings/Sony that runs daily bargains. (Good for one day). Quote
JohnJ Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 Miles and Trane - Complete Columbia Recordings 12.99 UK pounds. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004LR5JZO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE Quote
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