mr jazz Posted November 7, 2010 Report Posted November 7, 2010 (edited) Enjoyed listening to some of his early 50s recordings with Bud Shank and wondered what's worth picking up? Edited November 7, 2010 by mr jazz Quote
GA Russell Posted November 7, 2010 Report Posted November 7, 2010 RCA issued a cd and double LP ca. '87 called Short Stops which is a favorite of mine. I think that it is long out of print. Quote
Stereojack Posted November 7, 2010 Report Posted November 7, 2010 Just about everything he did through about 1956 is worthwhile. Unfortunately, I can't provide information as to what's on CD currently. He made a fine session for Capitol in 1952 that used to be on a CD entitled "Birth of the Cool Volume Two". He made several sessions for RCA Victor 1953-54, some of which is included on the aforementioned "Short Stops" CD. In 1955 he recorded several sessions for Atlantic, some of which came out at the time, and more of which was issued in the 1970's-80's. All of the Atlantic dates were gathered together on a Mosaic set some years ago, probably expensive nowadays. He returned to RCA Victor in 1956, issuing the memorable "Wherever the Five Winds Blow", but after that, the records became increasingly commercial and inconsistent. If you stick to the earlier stuff, you'll be rewarded with some fine listening. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted November 7, 2010 Report Posted November 7, 2010 Most of the Atlantic titles are available from Collectables for decent prices. Much of the RCA stuff is available from Fresh Sounds. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted November 8, 2010 Report Posted November 8, 2010 Agree with the recommendations thus far. I would add "Afro Cuban Influence" on RCA. Quote
B. Goren. Posted November 8, 2010 Report Posted November 8, 2010 A lot of good stuff on this JSP set: Quote
Stonewall15 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Posted November 8, 2010 I agree with previous posts about the superiority of Shorty's early recordings. A nice, low-price, box set of early recordings is the Membran Quadromania 4-CD set. PM me for more details. Quote
romualdo Posted November 9, 2010 Report Posted November 9, 2010 I also recommend the 5CD JSP set - It's actually on special via Amazon at present ($14.99) but it appears to be OOS. It's very comprehensive & the sound is impressive, covering up to 1954 (Capitol, RCA & live material that was on the Xanadu label; even includes some of his "Boots Brown" material) - no Atlantic recordings (hopefully that will be on Vol. 2 or get them on the Collectables releases) The one review in Amazon gives it an average rating due to poor sound quality - sorry, but beg to differ Another good early compilation (up to 1953) is the UK Giant Steps 2CD - The Sweetheart Of Sigmund Freud While we're on the subject of Shorty Rogers, does anyone know if the UK Clickin' With Clax LP (unreleased Atlantic material) has ever had a CD release apart from the 80's Mosaic box? Have been looking for that material for a while (but I'm not prepared to pay the big $$'s for a Mosaic Box - have placed bids for this in the past but always missed out) Quote
brownie Posted November 9, 2010 Report Posted November 9, 2010 While we're on the subject of Shorty Rogers, does anyone know if the UK Clickin' With Clax LP (unreleased Atlantic material) has ever had a CD release apart from the 80's Mosaic box? Have been looking for that material for a while (but I'm not prepared to pay the big $$'s for a Mosaic Box - have placed bids for this in the past but always missed out) The Mosaic box was the first reissue of the Atlantic UK Clickin' with Clax album. It remains the only reissue of the material so far! Quote
sidewinder Posted November 9, 2010 Report Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) The Mosaic box was the first reissue of the Atlantic UK Clickin' with Clax album. It remains the only reissue of the material so far! And 'Clickin' With Clax' even got to the top of the jazz charts over here when it came out, such was the clamour of the bearded jazz geeks to get hold of it. Came out ahead of Spyrogyra ! Edited November 9, 2010 by sidewinder Quote
JohnS Posted November 9, 2010 Report Posted November 9, 2010 Another vote for the Atlantic sides that were in the Mosaic box and Wherever The Five Winds Blow (RCA). Quote
David Ayers Posted November 9, 2010 Report Posted November 9, 2010 The 'Clickin with Clax' which is available as a download on amazon is not that album, just a faceless compilation. Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted November 9, 2010 Report Posted November 9, 2010 If I'd known that Clickin' With Clax album is still clicking that much with people here I ought to have picked up those 2 or 3 dirt cheap vinyl copies that turned up in the secondhand clearout bins at a local record store here those past 2 years or so. Too bad ... Quote
Free For All Posted November 9, 2010 Report Posted November 9, 2010 I've always liked this one too. Quote
David Ayers Posted November 9, 2010 Report Posted November 9, 2010 If I'd known that Clickin' With Clax album is still clicking that much with people here I ought to have picked up those 2 or 3 dirt cheap vinyl copies that turned up in the secondhand clearout bins at a local record store here those past 2 years or so. Too bad ... To stop anyone else having it? It's very good, and odd it hasn't had a life on CD outside the Mosaic. Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted November 10, 2010 Report Posted November 10, 2010 (edited) If I'd known that Clickin' With Clax album is still clicking that much with people here I ought to have picked up those 2 or 3 dirt cheap vinyl copies that turned up in the secondhand clearout bins at a local record store here those past 2 years or so. Too bad ... To stop anyone else having it? It's very good, and odd it hasn't had a life on CD outside the Mosaic. No, to pass them on to where they apparently would be wanted (if only one knew everybody's wants ). Because where these records sat and may not have been sold off fast I figure they eventually ended up in an even larger clearout bin where they got totally inundated in a huge mass of pop/MOR/light classics clearout fare. Edited November 10, 2010 by Big Beat Steve Quote
Joe Posted November 10, 2010 Report Posted November 10, 2010 From the 80's, but fine nonetheless (and cheap copies are fairly easy to find): CALIFORNIA CONCERT (Shank / Rogers) Quote
sidewinder Posted November 10, 2010 Report Posted November 10, 2010 If I'd known that Clickin' With Clax album is still clicking that much with people here I ought to have picked up those 2 or 3 dirt cheap vinyl copies that turned up in the secondhand clearout bins at a local record store here those past 2 years or so. Too bad ... To stop anyone else having it? It's very good, and odd it hasn't had a life on CD outside the Mosaic. Probably because it's British Incidentally, I also came across a stash of multiple copies of this album a few years ago and passed as I already had a copy - and the Mosaic. There seems to be an alternative universe full of them (a bit like Biroid life forms..) Quote
mr jazz Posted February 14, 2011 Author Report Posted February 14, 2011 listening to Swings now. very enjoyable (the mrs concurs) and I just picked up the Proper set on Amazon which collects his early 50s material. Belated thanks for the info. Quote
ArtSalt Posted February 11, 2014 Report Posted February 11, 2014 Bump! Just picked-up the Japanese Atlantic CD in 24bit of Clickin' with Clax, brilliant beaming west coast cool! Agree with comments and recommendations for Wherever The Five Winds Blow, but also I recommend the Gene Norman presents Modern Sounds - Shorty Rogers & Gerry Mulligan. With His Giants, Rogers gets the A-Side recorded in 1951 and it will dispel any prejudices about the west coast. Quote
BillF Posted February 11, 2014 Report Posted February 11, 2014 Bump! Just picked-up the Japanese Atlantic CD in 24bit of Clickin' with Clax, brilliant beaming west coast cool! Agree with comments and recommendations for Wherever The Five Winds Blow, but also I recommend the Gene Norman presents Modern Sounds - Shorty Rogers & Gerry Mulligan. With His Giants, Rogers gets the A-Side recorded in 1951 and it will dispel any prejudices about the west coast. Agree with your recommendations, Art Salt! Have had both albums on vinyl for many years - Clickin' on British Atlantic since the 80s and Modern Sounds on Capitol/EMI since the early 60s. I recall student friend Brian Priestley - later to become a noted jazz author - being very sniffy about my enthusiasm for the latter in that age of hard bop. I'm sure he felt differently in his maturity! Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted February 11, 2014 Report Posted February 11, 2014 My reccomendation is Martians Go Home! No, wait, Martians Come Back! Quote
romualdo Posted February 12, 2014 Report Posted February 12, 2014 My reccomendation is Martians Go Home! No, wait, Martians Come Back! "Martians Stay Home" is another UK only Atlantic release (was released after "Clickin With Clax"?) - this has been released on a Fresh Sound triple set & the Mosaic box Hopefully this will be released in Japan with the current Atlantic reissue series (4 so far) to round off his Atlantic output Quote
Bluesnik Posted February 15, 2014 Report Posted February 15, 2014 Agree with the recommendations thus far. I would add "Afro Cuban Influence" on RCA. Yes, I would also highlight that one. Quote
Bluesnik Posted February 15, 2014 Report Posted February 15, 2014 But also I recommend the Gene Norman presents Modern Sounds - Shorty Rogers & Gerry Mulligan. With His Giants, Rogers gets the A-Side recorded in 1951 and it will dispel any prejudices about the west coast. Recomendation seconded, plus the album called, I think, Courts the Count. Quote
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