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The Phillies staff seems to have figured him out. For the past 3 seasons he's gone 15 for 72 for a .208 avg. with 2 homers and 8 RBI.

That is impressive. Pujols does clobber Oswalt. Well, actually not, since .316/.360/.575 is below his career numbers of .331/.426/.624. That really says it all right there! I apologize to Roy for doing a good job. What's most impressive is Cole Hamels has kept Albert at 3 for 20 lifetime (1 double, 1 HR). For a lefty to that to Albert is an amazing feat.

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Interesting "what if" scenario.

***WARNING***MARINER FANS***SPOILER ALERT***

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So the Mariners get him, try to make him a starter and he blows his arm out. Rather than being the fit & elegant man he is instead he's a fat bitter alcoholic in Panama for the past 12 some odd years. Glad the Yankees kept him. :)

Back to reality (sort of) I'm foolishly hoping that Bedard (remember him?) might be healthy enough to make a difference this year. I know, I know, nothing like the optimism of spring, misplaced as it may be. And speaking of O's, even though the staff looks shaky I do wonder if Baltimore will be competitive this year. It'll require Adam Jones and some others to finally play to up to their potential, but every year has a surprise team, and Baltimore being good would indeed be a surprise.

OH MY GOSH! Bedard? Well it is spring training, and it would be great in he come around and pitched something this year. I read where the Mariner's are bringing Griffey back, as an adviser. A guy walks out on the team, with no thanks, no advance warning, no nothing, and he's brought back? For what, to show the younger guys how to work a fax machine? Sometime I don't understand baseball management at all...

People do change, Matthew.

I agree with that Goody, but "The Kid" has a very long history of treating the Mariner's like crap. Plus, Griffey won't have Dave Niehaus (RIP :( ) running interference for him any more either.

True dat.

But I seriously doubt the Mariners would bring him back if they didn't think he could contribute in some way. Ya know?

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Gary Sheffield retires: http://mlb.fanhouse....3_lnk1%7C201972

Thought he was long gone.

He played for 8 teams and wore out his welcome with each one. If there's a malcontent Hall of Fame he's a first ballot guy.

Sheff is part of my all-time malcontent outfield: Sheff, Milton Bradley, and Carl Everett. I'm sure if I though hard enough, I could top this one though. ;)

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Gary Sheffield retires: http://mlb.fanhouse....3_lnk1%7C201972

Thought he was long gone.

He played for 8 teams and wore out his welcome with each one. If there's a malcontent Hall of Fame he's a first ballot guy.

Sheff is part of my all-time malcontent outfield: Sheff, Milton Bradley, and Carl Everett. I'm sure if I though hard enough, I could top this one though. ;)

albert(joey) belle, jimmy piersall?

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Gary Sheffield retires: http://mlb.fanhouse....3_lnk1%7C201972

Thought he was long gone.

He played for 8 teams and wore out his welcome with each one. If there's a malcontent Hall of Fame he's a first ballot guy.

Sheff is part of my all-time malcontent outfield: Sheff, Milton Bradley, and Carl Everett. I'm sure if I though hard enough, I could top this one though. ;)

albert(joey) belle, jimmy piersall?

Might have to give Bell the nod. Carlos Zambrano is definitely the pitcher...

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Gary Sheffield retires: http://mlb.fanhouse....3_lnk1%7C201972

Thought he was long gone.

He played for 8 teams and wore out his welcome with each one. If there's a malcontent Hall of Fame he's a first ballot guy.

Sheff is part of my all-time malcontent outfield: Sheff, Milton Bradley, and Carl Everett. I'm sure if I though hard enough, I could top this one though. ;)

Let the record show that two of those guys were Dodgers at one time. ;)

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News from St. Pete:

Bartolo Colon, in an effort to ensure that his major league career is, in fact, over, has shown up in camp 25 pounds overweight. One of my all-time favorite sports nicknames was given to "Dinner Bell" Mel Turpin, a guy who pretty much ate his way out of the NBA. Sounds like the time may be right to blow the dust off and bring this one out of retirement.

The Yankees' attempt to sign Kevin Millwood to a minor league deal similar to that of Freddie Garcia has been rebuffed by Mr. Millwood. Apparently he sees this as an unconscionable affront; totally disrespectful of a man whose record with the Orioles last year was 4-16 with a 5.64 ERA in 31 starts. If this doesn't prove anything else, it shows that there's at least one person on the planet who's dumber than Bartolo Colon.

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How could anyone tell if Colon were 25 pounds overweight? And what is that in comparison to? In his heyday, he was always at least 25 pounds overweight. So does this mean he came into camp at least 25 pounds over that?

And anyway, the Yankees just recently signed him. I'm sure they didn't do that sight unseen, so they were probably well aware of whatever his current weight is - unless Dave means that he went on an eating binge in celebration of the resumption of his major league career, and packed on 25 pounds in three weeks.

A guy like that you judge only by whether or not he can get major league hitters out with any regularity.

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How could anyone tell if Colon were 25 pounds overweight? And what is that in comparison to? In his heyday, he was always at least 25 pounds overweight. So does this mean he came into camp at least 25 pounds over that?

And anyway, the Yankees just recently signed him. I'm sure they didn't do that sight unseen, so they were probably well aware of whatever his current weight is - unless Dave means that he went on an eating binge in celebration of the resumption of his major league career, and packed on 25 pounds in three weeks.

A guy like that you judge only by whether or not he can get major league hitters out with any regularity.

Dan,

Here's a picture of Colon taken right after he reported to the Yankees camp in St. Petersburg:

JabbaTheHutt2.jpg

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How could anyone tell if Colon were 25 pounds overweight? And what is that in comparison to? In his heyday, he was always at least 25 pounds overweight. So does this mean he came into camp at least 25 pounds over that?

I was wondering that too. I hit baseball-reference which claimed he weighed 185 (and 6'0" for those who do BMI in their head.) Uh huh, sure... Googling the story it comes up as 267. So David's picture is spot on. :lol:

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How could anyone tell if Colon were 25 pounds overweight? And what is that in comparison to? In his heyday, he was always at least 25 pounds overweight. So does this mean he came into camp at least 25 pounds over that?

I was wondering that too. I hit baseball-reference which claimed he weighed 185 (and 6'0" for those who do BMI in their head.) Uh huh, sure... Googling the story it comes up as 267. So David's picture is spot on. :lol:

Several months after my Mom died, I reached (briefly) 260 and I am 6 feet. I never looked close to as big as he did a few years back...I bet he weighed 290 +

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Hank Steinbrenner:

"At some point if you don't want to worry about teams in minor markets, don't put teams in minor markets or don't leave teams in minor markets. Socialism, communism is never the answer."

http://www.boston.co...brenner_so.html

Oh yes, the whole goal for MLB is to do what ever the Yankees want. I'm sure the Yankees, Red Sox, and all other "big market teams" would make so much more money in ten team AL & NL leagues. Well, that's the kind of leagues we have for Fox MLB Game of the Week, and look at what great ratings those games get. The one thing I really want to see in baseball is a team salary minimum, where a team has to spend a certain amount of money on their roster -- none of this putting a AAA team out there, don't pay them a cent, and make a big profit. But Hank, what a jerk. :tdown

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Hank Steinbrenner:

"At some point if you don't want to worry about teams in minor markets, don't put teams in minor markets or don't leave teams in minor markets. Socialism, communism is never the answer."

http://www.boston.co...brenner_so.html

Oh yes, the whole goal for MLB is to do what ever the Yankees want. I'm sure the Yankees, Red Sox, and all other "big market teams" would make so much more money in ten team AL & NL leagues. Well, that's the kind of leagues we have for Fox MLB Game of the Week, and look at what great ratings those games get. The one thing I really want to see in baseball is a team salary minimum, where a team has to spend a certain amount of money on their roster -- none of this putting a AAA team out there, don't pay them a cent, and make a big profit. But Hank, what a jerk. :tdown

I'm afraid he inherited his jerkiness!

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"My father played softball until he was like 62 years old. That was a great role model for me" - Omar Vizquel, 43, to be 44 in a couple months while at training camp for the White Sox. :)

I recall seeing him in fielding warmups as a rookie in the Kingdome. I was sitting on the first base side a little high up but not nosebleed seats. I was shocked at how loud his throws into the 1st baseman's glove were given what a little guy he was. 22 years later he's still going. It would be a hoot if he could play another 2 seasons and have a shot at 3000 hits. Quite an accomplished career anyway for a "glove" man.

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"My father played softball until he was like 62 years old. That was a great role model for me" - Omar Vizquel, 43, to be 44 in a couple months while at training camp for the White Sox. :)

I recall seeing him in fielding warmups as a rookie in the Kingdome. I was sitting on the first base side a little high up but not nosebleed seats. I was shocked at how loud his throws into the 1st baseman's glove were given what a little guy he was. 22 years later he's still going. It would be a hoot if he could play another 2 seasons and have a shot at 3000 hits. Quite an accomplished career anyway for a "glove" man.

Not to mention that he's a fair to middlin' timbales player.

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I like the glove guys myself. Nothing is more exciting than a physics-defying defensive play, imo.

I use to love coming early to a game just so I could watch infield practice, watching Ozzie Smith was a thing of beauty. It was so much fun to see the great players strut their stuff during practice. *Sigh* They don't do that anymore either, too taxing on the players. Just another aspect of the game I miss from the old days.

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I use to love coming early to a game just so I could watch infield practice, watching Ozzie Smith was a thing of beauty.

Oh that's right, you saw the San Diego edition of Ozzie didn't you? It's a cliche but oh so true, in almost in every game he made a play where you'd lose your breath, or shout, slap your head etc. Seeing those warm ups on grass (er...grass playing field) must have been something.

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