Herbie Nichols Love, Gloom, Cash

[bertrand]

If ever they make a movie about Herbie, 'Love Gloom Cash Love' would be a great title.

Bertrand.

[Swinger]

Really excellent stuff! Buy it with confidence. It's practically as good as his BN stuff.

[wag]

Some people have a strange idea of what "out of tune" means. That reviewer probably thinks Monk's piano is out of tune also.

Edited November 9, 2010 by wag

[ep1str0phy]

I actually heard this before the BN albums. I love both, but I think my opinion of this one might have been colored a little differently had I gotten to it second. I think I may prefer the BN rhythm sections, but this one is no slouch. The compositions may also be a little less resonant here, but the playing is top notch and they're at least as harmonically colorful as the BN stuff.

Only going off of memory here, but something about Nichols's harmonic palette brings to mind Horace Tapscott's trio music--dense sounds with tons of harmonic color and rhythmic muscle. I think it's "Every Cloud" (on the Nichols album) that has some interesting Maj7 motion--really reminds me of some of Tapscott's harmonies.

[jostber]

This one is also a classic album with Nichols:

I was thinking of getting these as well. Should be classic stuff here also.

[brownie]

For those who missed the Mosaic Herbie Nichols box, BN put out a 3CD set with all of Nichols' recordings for the label

[colinmce]

Some of the best Art Blakey on record!

[ep1str0phy]

For those who missed the Mosaic Herbie Nichols box, BN put out a 3CD set with all of Nichols' recordings for the label

That's the one I have. It's all splendid.

[kh1958]

Most of his Savoy date is available on an anthology called, I Just Love Jazz Piano.

http://www.amazon.com/I-Just-Love-Jazz-Piano/dp/B00005BC82/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1289421311&sr=1-1

Has there been a complete issue of this date?

[JSngry]

Most of his Savoy date is available on an anthology called, I Just Love Jazz Piano.

http://www.amazon.co...89421311&sr=1-1

Has there been a complete issue of this date?

SAvoy Jazz SJL 1166 (1986) pairs the 3/6/52 Nichols date (7 cuts) with the Gigi Gryce Signal date where Monk was a sideman.

Edited November 11, 2010 by JSngry

[ep1str0phy]

After doing some listening recently, can I just say that the man had a baaaad left hand? The right hand isn't bad either. Both hands good.

[jazzbo]

I agree, both hands are great!

I believe the remaining tracks from that session were released on a cd called "Modern Jazz Piano," a nearly complete reissue of a Savoy/Arista (?) two lp set.

[Joe]

I seem to recall that this has been answered elsewhere and before, but none of my searches has proved productive... has it ever been established whether or not there is unreleased material from this session? Roswell Rudd's Mosaic set discography lists 6 additional performances, all presumably Nichols originals:

• 
  
  
• Riff Primitif
  
• Debra's Tango
  
• Neighborhood Journey
  
• Hip
  
• The Happenings
  
• Dolly
  

I can't imagine this material would have not been reissued by this point if it does actually exists, but...

Edited August 27, 2011 by Joe

[paul secor]

I seem to recall that this has been answered elsewhere and before, but none of my searches has proved productive... has it ever been established whether or not there is unreleased material from this session? Roswell Rudd's Mosaic set discography lists 6 additional performances, all presumably Nichols originals:

• 
  
  
• Riff Primitif
  
• Debra's Tango
  
• Neighborhood Journey
  
• Hip
  
• The Happenings
  
• Dolly
  

I can't imagine this material would have not been reissued by this point if it does actually exists, but...

Perhaps there will be a serendipitous event like Ernest Hemingway's trunk with some early writings turning up in the basement of the Ritz Hotel in Paris many years after he had left it there in storage. That helped lead to the writing of A Moveable Feast.

We can only hope that Herbie Nichols' lost Bethlehem recordings will turn up someday.

[Chuck Nessa]

Tapes have been searched for to no avail.

[JSngry]

Tapes have been searched for to no avail.

Have people looked into the old King tape inventories? Didn't they buy Bethlehem?

[Chuck Nessa]

Yes and yes.

[Joe]

Thanks. As I feared. Seems like luck was never on Mr. Nichols' side.

[JSngry]

Hmmm....maybe somewhere in Cincinnati there's hidden a treasure...

Or not...

[paul secor]

Hmmm....maybe somewhere in Cincinnati there's hidden a treasure...

Or not...

Last I heard, Gusto owned King - except for the James Brown and associated recordings - and the tapes were stored in Nashville.

[JSngry]

Yeah, I'm having a fantasy about something not making the trip...

[Chuck Nessa]

In the mid '70s the Bethlehem catalog was owned by Leiber and Stoller. They were buying up music publishing and the rights to the Bethlehem catalog came with one of the deals. They had no interest in the catalog and for a minute I was negotiating to buy the Nichols master. Multiple searches were made for the tapes at the time with no results. While all this was going on, the entire catalog was purchased by the Cayre brothers, aka Salsoul Records.

[JSngry]

While all this was going on, the entire catalog was purchased by the Cayre brothers, aka Salsoul Records.

Did anybody look here?

[Clunky]

My CD version of this from Charly/Affinity (UK) sounds quite grainy and rough sounding , are there better sounding versions out there ?

[jazzbo]

The US version and the TOCJ both sound decent.