BERIGAN Posted December 11, 2003 Report Posted December 11, 2003 'Prehistoric man began global warming' Date: December 11 2003 Measurements of ancient air bubbles trapped in Antarctic ice offers evidence that humans have been changing the global climate since thousands of years before the industrial revolution. From 8000 years ago, atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide began to rise as humans started clearing forests, planting crops and raising livestock, a scientist said on Tuesday. Methane levels started increasing 3000 years later. The combined increases of the two greenhouse gases implicated in global warming were slow but steady and staved off what should have been a period of significant natural cooling, said Bill Ruddiman, emeritus professor at the University of Virginia. The changes also disrupted regular patterns that dominated the 400,000 years of atmospheric history that scientists have teased from samples of ancient ice. "You have 395,000 years of history, which sets some rules, and 5000 years that break those rules," Professor Ruddiman said. He briefed reporters on his theory at the autumn meeting of the American Geophysical Union on Tuesday. Further details appear in the December issue of the journal Climatic Change. Previously, scientists assumed widely it was only with the onset of the factory age that human activity had any significant effect on the global climate. The prehistoric changes in carbon dioxide and methane levels have been noted before but were attributed to natural causes, Professor Ruddiman said. "It's a great new idea we need to talk about and evaluate," said Bette Otto-Bliesner, a paleoclimate expert at the National Centre for Atmospheric Research, who was not connected with the research. Atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide and methane naturally fluctuate, in part because of changes in the orbit of the Earth and the resulting variations in the amounts of sunlight. But human activity apparently thwarted expected decreases in the atmospheric concentrations of both gases. Leading the change was the revolutionary adoption, across both Europe and Asia, of agriculture and animal husbandry, Professor Ruddiman said. Analysis of air trapped in ice cores drilled from the Antarctic ice sheet show anomalous increases in carbon dioxide levels beginning 8000 years ago - just as crop lands began to replace previously forested regions across Asia and Europe. About 5000 years ago, the ice cores reflect a similarly anomalous rise in methane levels, this time tied to increased emissions from flooded rice fields, as well as burgeoning numbers of livestock, Professor Ruddiman said. The prehistoric practices apparently overrode a build-up of ice that models predict should have occurred from 5000 years ago. AP http://www.smh.com.au/text/articles/2003/1...0732281706.html Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted December 11, 2003 Report Posted December 11, 2003 Leading the change was the revolutionary adoption, across both Europe and Asia, of agriculture and animal husbandry, Professor Ruddiman said. That's legal over there!??! Quote
brownie Posted December 11, 2003 Report Posted December 11, 2003 Leading the change was the revolutionary adoption, across both Europe and Asia, of agriculture and animal husbandry, Professor Ruddiman said. That's legal over there!??! All husbands are animals over here Quote
couw Posted December 11, 2003 Report Posted December 11, 2003 oo-lala! anyhow, the original article seems to ride high on politically popular ideas in some large industrial states refusing to admit they may be part of what's causing the world to collapse under the extreme stress that's put upon it. No, it was them old stupid cave men who did the damage and anything done by those brutes must be so close to being entirely natural and therefore beyond criticism that we shouldn't really worry about it. Because if nature is what you want, nature is what you're gonna get. It's the same people who argue that volcanos do more harm than I don't know how many cars. Well they do, but that really is not an excuse to make the mess bigger now is it? If everyone would show a stance like that democracy would collapse because no one would vote and people would starve because bakeries would argue that their production is so tiny compared to the total that they might as well stop making bread. True of course but leads to a mess when all the bakeries think the same. If the people of this world would just start thinking the same we might be able to avoid the biggest mess we've ever faced. Quote
PHILLYQ Posted December 11, 2003 Report Posted December 11, 2003 What's missing from that article is the rate of change- I believe that the rate of warming has increased quite a bit. Nothing like leaving out some important stuff that's crucial to our understanding. Interesting article, though. Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted December 11, 2003 Report Posted December 11, 2003 It's a frickin 26 degrees right now in Ohio. I say there hasn't been enough global warming. What else can we do to speed up the process? Quote
pepe Posted December 11, 2003 Report Posted December 11, 2003 I think it would be good for the environment if Columbus and Leiv Erikson never discovered America. Maybe we should give it back to the indians? Quote
couw Posted December 11, 2003 Report Posted December 11, 2003 It's a frickin 26 degrees right now in Ohio. I say there hasn't been enough global warming. What else can we do to speed up the process? Drain all peatlands, boost 10.000 years worth of carbon into the atmosphere. That'll help. But wait until I figured out the backgorund of their beauty please... Quote
medjuck Posted December 11, 2003 Report Posted December 11, 2003 Hey Berigan I thought the the right wing party line was that there was no global warming. Has Rupert Murdoch sent you new marching orders? Quote
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