free jazz album i got, is this a good one?

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

its called David Murray- Flowers for Albert

i assumed he was talking about Albert Ayler so i got it, another song on the album is called ballad for a decomposed beauty. the label is c. 1976 india investigation company

[A Lark Ascending]

  On 5/15/2010 at 9:26 PM, chewy said:

india investigation company

A subdivision of Columbus-ia, I believe.

[JSngry]

One of Murray's better early albums, I think.

[Pete C]

Excellent album. I don't think I'd call anything of Murray's free jazz, but it's not straight-ahead either.

[paul secor]

Since you have the album, why not listen to it and decide for yourself?

[kh1958]

Yes, Flowers for Albert is dedicated to Albert Ayler, but it's a happy, not a sad song.

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

beacuse im listening to paul revere & the raiders right now

[JSngry]

Not a bad thing to do, actually.

[Uncle Skid]

  On 5/16/2010 at 12:22 AM, paul secor said:

Since you have the album, why not listen to it and decide for yourself?

:tup

[jlhoots]

Free is good.

[Teasing the Korean]

  On 5/16/2010 at 2:09 AM, Uncle Skid said:

  On 5/16/2010 at 12:22 AM, paul secor said:

Since you have the album, why not listen to it and decide for yourself?

:tup

Why not just shut down the board and end all conversation?

[clifford_thornton]

It's a very strong early Murray outing. But I see nothing wrong with Paul Revere & The Raiders (also early), either.

[JSngry]

Paul Revere & The Raiders hold up really well.

[Uncle Skid]

  On 5/16/2010 at 3:44 AM, Teasing the Korean said:

  On 5/16/2010 at 2:09 AM, Uncle Skid said:

  On 5/16/2010 at 12:22 AM, paul secor said:

Since you have the album, why not listen to it and decide for yourself?

:tup

Why not just shut down the board and end all conversation?

You know that's not what I meant...

[papsrus]

How did you do that?

[JohnS]

This is the record that turned me on to Murray. I was hooked from the start. A great early album an astonishingly mature for a 21 year old. The cd issue runs to two cds.

Edited May 16, 2010 by JohnS

[Teasing the Korean]

  On 5/16/2010 at 4:19 AM, Uncle Skid said:

You know that's not what I meant...

Sorry, I thought I was replying to the original comment.

[paul secor]

  On 5/16/2010 at 3:21 PM, Teasing the Korean said:

  On 5/16/2010 at 4:19 AM, Uncle Skid said:

You know that's not what I meant...

Sorry, I thought I was replying to the original comment.

That wasn't what I meant, either.

Edited May 17, 2010 by paul secor

[David Ayers]

In an inverted version of BFT, chewy should never listen to the LP but just mentally reconstruct it from our remarks about it.

[paul secor]

"chewey's world" would make a great (un)reality show.

[clifford_thornton]

  On 5/15/2010 at 10:35 PM, Pete C said:

Excellent album. I don't think I'd call anything of Murray's free jazz, but it's not straight-ahead either.

Really? A fair amount of his early material is pretty "out," as far as I'm concerned. 3-D Family, on Hat Hut, a side of William Hooker's first LP with Mark Miller on bass; the wide-open group with Crouch... for me, this is "free," if not of the same ilk as Albert Ayler, Frank Wright, the Actuel LPs, or whatever. The late 1970s were different times from the late '60s or the '90s.

[JETman]

Ok, I'll be the dissenting opinion.

It was always difficult to take Murray seriously as he was putting out about an album every 2 weeks.

[kh1958]

According to this discography, he released 84 albums as a leader or co-leader from 1976-2000. That equates to a new album every 15.5 weeks, not every two weeks.

http://go54321.tripod.com/dm/davidmurray.html

[JETman]

  On 5/17/2010 at 4:51 PM, kh1958 said:

According to this discography, he released 84 albums as a leader or co-leader from 1976-2000. That equates to a new album every 15.5 weeks, not every two weeks.

http://go54321.tripod.com/dm/davidmurray.html

Still a ridiculous clip! At any rate, he was (and still is) considered a poseur by the jazz cognescenti I used to hang with at J&R. Many of these were musicians, btw.

[mjazzg]

over-recorded maybe.

Let the "jazz cognescenti" whoever they may be and by whatever criteria they have been selected think what they like. I suspect that for the many folk David Murray's recordings and concerts have been anything but a pose. An exciting and talented player and composer to my ears (but then I don't hang at J&R)