AllenLowe Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 he's the Nat Hentoff flavor of the month - so I'm listening to some internet samples - and the guy just plays the same harmonic patterns over and over and over - sort of Pete Fountain on the violin. But everyone seems to think he's great. But he's dull and unimaginative. AM I THE LAST SANE PERSON IN THE JAZZ WORLD? this guy sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontooneous Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 he's the Nat Hentoff flavor of the month - so I'm listening to some internet samples - and the guy just plays the same harmonic patterns over and over and over - sort of Pete Fountain on the violin. But everyone seems to think he's great. But he's dull and unimaginative. AM I THE LAST SANE PERSON IN THE JAZZ WORLD? this guy sucks. People just don't have the compass points for listening to jazz violin that you have. Any old showy violin stuff will impress them. I thought we decided that I was the last sane person in the jazz world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted May 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 (edited) all right, you can have the honor, as many people have questioned my mental health - this kid Weinstein doesn't hold a candle to Andy Stein - or Frankenstein, for that matter. Edited May 12, 2010 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 ... or Dr. Frankenstein's girlfriend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Frau Blucher! *whinny* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted May 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 man, she could play - she also got a good look at Frankenstein's Shwangstucke - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat5 Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Wait...I made espresso. Allen, you should listen to the record "Pete Fountain Day" to hear his best jazz work. He's better than you give him credit for. Do you like jazz that doesn't try to be innovative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted May 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 (edited) it's not a question, for me, of innovative or not - but that certain musicians play patterns rather than improvise, pieces of scale or certain riffs that they wedge into every chord - Fountain does this, to my ears. Weinstein is even more transparent in this respect (shockingly so on some of the stuff I've heard) - and I like a lot of non-innovator, traditionalists or classicists: Randy Sandke (though Randy can do a lot of other things); Ken Peplowski (same with Ken); Warren Vache (I hope Larry Kart's not reading); George Lewis (the clarinetist); Kid Rena; Irving Fazola; Barry Harris; Bunk Johnson; Max Kaminsky; Art Hodes; Howard Alden; Loren Schoenberg; Doc Cheatham; and many more. Edited May 13, 2010 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomsMobley Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Among the Top 10 jazz bands of their era-- MILTON BROWN AND HIS BROWNIES Fiddlers included-- Cecil Brower goddamn! Hentoff is really old now, and means well, I suppose, but he needs to step aside or have someone remind him of the verities. Lenny Bruce knew better, and probably still does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted May 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 (edited) Cecil Brower was a brilliant fiddler, yes. One of my favorites (of course my all time favorite is Ray Nance). Hentoff is reaching that stage of being the old guy who wants to stay "relevant" but who hasn't a clue as to what's happening now. I'm much the same way, but at least I recognize the problem. these kids today with their hip hop and their 3 way sex - ****** ******I have no idea what this means Edited May 13, 2010 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat5 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Thanks for your reply, Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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