Mingus Antibes question

[clifford_thornton]

Hey, does anybody know whether the tracks on the Japanese BYG LP

Charles Mingus Live with Eric Dolphy (BYG YX-7009) rec. Antibes, 7/13/60

also appeared on the Mingus at Antibes 2LP set? I found a copy of the BYG whilst digging this weekend and put it on hold because I have the Atlantic two-fer (albeit, in storage). Haven't spun that in years & it seemed to me like the track titles were different. I mean, worst thing that could happen would be dumping $15 down the drain, but I'm curious and there must be some Mingus-philes here. The Mingus discography online was unclear (to me).

Thanks!

[jeffcrom]

Same stuff, different titles or not. From jazzdisco.org (the formatting may not transfer well):

Charles Mingus Quintet plus Bud Powell

Ted Curson (tp) Eric Dolphy (as, bcl) Booker Ervin (ts -1/4,6) Bud Powell (p -6) Charles Mingus (b, p -1/5, b -6) Dannie Richmond (d)

"Juan-les-Pins Jazz Festival", Antibes, France, July 13, 1960

1. 5260 | 37622 Cry For Freedom (Prayer For Passive Resistance) Atlantic SD 2-3001

2. 5261 | 37626 Better Git Hit In Your Soul Atlantic SD 2-3001; BYG (J) YX 7009

3. 5262 | 37621 Wednesday Night Prayer Meeting -

4. 5263 | 37625 Ummh! (Folk Forms, I) -

5. 5264 | 37623 What Love Atlantic SD 2-3001

6. 5265 | 37624 I'll Remember April -

* Charles Mingus - Mingus At Antibes (Atlantic SD 2-3001)

= Charles Mingus - Live (Affinity (E) CDAFF 778)

* Charles Mingus Live With Eric Dolphy (BYG (J) YX 7009)

= Charles Mingus - Live (Affinity (E) AFF 19)

Edited April 5, 2010 by jeffcrom

[kh1958]

There was a bootleg release that pre-dated the official issuance of the concert by Atlantic in 1976 or 1977. The bootleg may be from an inferior sound source.

[clifford_thornton]

Great, thanks for the info - I will rescue my Atlantic and hold onto that.

[brownie]

The BYG release had sound 'borrowed' from the French ORTF archives.

The Atlantic had sound of its own (recorded by Barclay Studio).

[Spontooneous]

I've long enjoyed the Atlantic but have wondered about the other versions. Are some of the performances edited in the Atlantic editions? Seems to me I hear some splices (like at the beginning of Curson's solo on April, and a couple of other spots, but I'm not at home to check the disc right now). Do the other versions perhaps have a few more bars?

[Pete C]

While we're on the subject, does anybody know the source of the snippet of film from I'll Remember April--why it's not complete and why nothing else from the show has surfaced?

[jazzsoulfunk]

This is obviously a huge bump but it looks like the full performance of 'I'll Remember April' was uploaded to youtube a couple of months ago.

[jazztrain]

Wow! Thanks for posting this. Just made my day!

This is obviously a huge bump but it looks like the full performance of 'I'll Remember April' was uploaded to youtube a couple of months ago.

[kh1958]

Presumably lifted from this DVD (of dubious origins):

http://www.amazon.com/Eric-Dolphy-Charles-Mingus-6tet/dp/B0029XEZEI/ref=sr_1_14?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1391298380&sr=1-14&keywords=Charles+Mingus