Brad Posted October 29, 2010 Report Posted October 29, 2010 Don't talk to me about 1993. Everybody has their horror stories; that's what being a fan is all about. Mine is 1988 playoffs Mets v. Dodgers, game 4: Mike bleepin' Scoscia. Couldn't sleep that whole tonight. In the sixth or seventh inning, when they were up 4-2, they had Carter on third and nobody out. Couldn't get him in. If they score, they probably would have won the game and gone up in 3-1. But they didn't and promptly lost game 5. The rest is bad history Quote
Neal Pomea Posted October 29, 2010 Report Posted October 29, 2010 Those walks were painful to watch, and I'm not even rooting for any team! I am confident Texas can bounce back in the next 3 games. Quote
Matthew Posted October 29, 2010 Author Report Posted October 29, 2010 Ron Washington did not manage the 9th well at all -- not even using Feliz?? They needed to keep it to a two run lead, and Ron was acting like it was the middle of July. Quote
Tim McG Posted October 29, 2010 Report Posted October 29, 2010 My younger son---who was seven at the time---is still bitter about the 2002 Series. It's a big club, Bruce. Tell your son he's not alone in that. Quote
ghost of miles Posted October 29, 2010 Report Posted October 29, 2010 (edited) This is pretty cool: World Series Game 2 8th inning break singalong ...I'll confess that as a kid I really dug some of those early Journey sides like "Lights"... Q95 used to play them a lot in Indianapolis. Neat that Steve Perry was actually in the crowd and urging them on in the singalong; again, I'm really impressed by the character of the Giants team, their fans, and the spirit of the games at A T & T Park. Great to see a city having such a love affair with its ballclub. Edited October 29, 2010 by ghost of miles Quote
JSngry Posted October 29, 2010 Report Posted October 29, 2010 Ron Washington did not manage the 9th well at all -- not even using Feliz?? They needed to keep it to a two run lead, and Ron was acting like it was the middle of July. He managed the 9th as well as he could... I would maybe have gone with Feliz once Wilson came out, but the dreaded Darren O'Day actually stepped up & delivered, and the to-this-point-beloved Derek holland caught the Series Jitters at the worst possible time, and everything else just...sucked royally. But I think Wash was thinking that a 2 run top of the 9th for he Rangers was doable, maybe even a 3, so you save Feliz for either the 9th or whatever extra-inning scenario transpires. Hindsight being 20-20, you can say it was a horrible decision, but dig - the horror all happened with two outs. You've got to think that somebody can just come in and get one - just one out. A manager has to have that trust, even if it gets betrayed on a Cesarian scale every now and then. Quote
Brad Posted October 29, 2010 Report Posted October 29, 2010 Ron Washington did not manage the 9th well at all -- not even using Feliz?? They needed to keep it to a two run lead, and Ron was acting like it was the middle of July. I think you mean the 8th but, yes, I'd have to agree you need to keep it as close as possible. You never know what's going to happen. Quote
MartyJazz Posted October 29, 2010 Report Posted October 29, 2010 Ron Washington did not manage the 9th well at all -- not even using Feliz?? They needed to keep it to a two run lead, and Ron was acting like it was the middle of July. Especially when you realize that Friday is an off day, why not bring in Feliz to at least keep it at 2-0? But once it became 9-0, Ranger hitters looked especially beat in their last turn at bat. Still can't get over how Kinsler's shot didn't head out after it hit the top of the wall. At 1-1, it's a different game. However, the Ranger bullpen is turning in a disgraceful performance, no other way to put it. Quote
Matthew Posted October 29, 2010 Author Report Posted October 29, 2010 Yeah, I meant the 8th. I just thought that Washington had to do anything possible to keep the lead to two runs. Theory is great is baseball, but you need outs, and Feliz hasn't pitched in a lot of days, so use him fer cryin' out loud! I mean, he gets the third out, and he can pitch the bottom of the 9th. Quote
JSngry Posted October 29, 2010 Report Posted October 29, 2010 Theory is great is baseball, but you need outs, and Feliz hasn't pitched in a lot of days, so use him fer cryin' out loud! I mean, he gets the third out, and he can pitch the bottom of the 9th. That's the type of thing that if the manager's instincts play out, he's a great manager, and if they don't, he's an idiot. OTOH, as much as I admire the "you're my guys, yesterday was then, this is now, just play baseball" approach, not just on this team but as a "life principle" in general, at some point loaded guns need to be held to the heads (and/or groins) of the entire Rangers bullpen and one or two need to be fired, just to set an example. Enough is more than enough. Quote
Dan Gould Posted October 29, 2010 Report Posted October 29, 2010 This is the same criticism I gave after Game 1 of the ALCS. The playoffs are different, and you have to use your best arms at the most critical times. There is no excuse whatsoever not to use the closer to keep it a winnable game. Take a lesson from Terry Francona, for fuck's sake. Quote
MartyJazz Posted October 29, 2010 Report Posted October 29, 2010 (edited) Theory is great is baseball, but you need outs, and Feliz hasn't pitched in a lot of days, so use him fer cryin' out loud! I mean, he gets the third out, and he can pitch the bottom of the 9th. That's the type of thing that if the manager's instincts play out, he's a great manager, and if they don't, he's an idiot. OTOH, as much as I admire the "you're my guys, yesterday was then, this is now, just play baseball" approach, not just on this team but as a "life principle" in general, at some point loaded guns need to be held to the heads (and/or groins) of the entire Rangers bullpen and one or two need to be fired, just to set an example. Enough is more than enough. Did you catch the split second shot of Holland screaming into his glove when he saw Washington coming out to relieve him? The man was definitely immersed in a hellhole of his own making. Edited October 29, 2010 by MartyJazz Quote
Brad Posted October 29, 2010 Report Posted October 29, 2010 He probably should have been brought it in any event just for the work as he hasn't pitched in a few days. Really, either way Washington couldn't have been criticized. However, by not doing it at all he leaves himself open for the second guess. Quote
Quincy Posted October 29, 2010 Report Posted October 29, 2010 (edited) Yeah, I meant the 8th. I just thought that Washington had to do anything possible to keep the lead to two runs. Theory is great is baseball, but you need outs, and Feliz hasn't pitched in a lot of days, so use him fer cryin' out loud! I mean, he gets the third out, and he can pitch the bottom of the 9th. The lineup was an ugly position to do a double switch as Hamilton had made the last out in the previous inning. So without a double switch that meant the 6th batter in the 9th would have been been the pitcher's slot, and if you need to score at least 2 the pitcher is coming up. I know, it's a game you have to win and the situation was dire. But if you want more than one inning from your closer you have to go without your best hitter. Tough choice! Edited October 29, 2010 by Quincy Quote
Big Al Posted October 29, 2010 Report Posted October 29, 2010 Today, I am wearing my Texas Rangers AL Champs t-shirt to work as part of Halloween dress-up day, and telling everyone I am St. Jude, the Patron Saint of Lost Causes. Seriously, now that I'm calmed down, just gotta keep telling myself I wanted this to go seven games and in order to go seven games, the Rangers gotta lose three. But like that??? Look, what Wash did last night is typical Wash. Sometimes it works, sometimes it bites him in the ass. But that's his style and I give him credit for having the cajones for staying consistent against the massive outpouring of screams to do otherwise (I'm in that massive outpouring, BTW). Hell, it got him this far; at this point, I can't really argue with it anymore. Maybe it's time to get the guys in the bullpen to watch "Bull Durham:" Don't think, Meat; just throw. Hell, put garters on 'em if necessary! And may I also say how classy, gracious, and a good sport GoodSpeak has been this Series! I'm guessing it's as much out of being a "Good" guy as it is out of fear that saying even the slightest thing complimentary will jinx his team. I know this feeling all too well, and am living that nightmare right now. Oh well, I've rooted this long and bought the t-shirts not to keep saying it: GO RANGERS!!! Quote
JSngry Posted October 29, 2010 Report Posted October 29, 2010 Ron Washington flattered by kid's costume http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/texas-rangers/post/_/id/4857584/ron-washington-flattered-by-costume Quote
Tim McG Posted October 30, 2010 Report Posted October 30, 2010 (edited) With any luck, and if the Baseball Gods are with us, the Giants will close this thing out this weekend. I don't hold out much hope if this goes to 7 games. Edited October 30, 2010 by GoodSpeak Quote
vajerzy Posted October 30, 2010 Report Posted October 30, 2010 Great shot!! How many rows are behind you? I went to a WS game in 1993- Phils/Blue Jays....the atmosphere was awesome. Quote
BFrank Posted October 30, 2010 Report Posted October 30, 2010 Great shot!! How many rows are behind you? I went to a WS game in 1993- Phils/Blue Jays....the atmosphere was awesome. There were NO rows behind me. It was nice to be able to stand without blocking anybody, though. Quote
ghost of miles Posted October 30, 2010 Report Posted October 30, 2010 Deep in the heart of Texas seems to be producing a better vibe for Ranger play so far tonight. Quote
Chalupa Posted October 31, 2010 Report Posted October 31, 2010 I hope the Rangers win and make this an interesting WS. I don't want to see a sweep. Quote
Chalupa Posted October 31, 2010 Report Posted October 31, 2010 What happened to Sanchez?? He had a great game vs. the Braves and sucked vs. the Phillies. Now he's sucking again. Quote
ghost of miles Posted October 31, 2010 Report Posted October 31, 2010 Enter Feliz? I'm working down to the wire on a documentary show, but I'm trying to sneak in Internet/TV peeks as the game goes on.... Rangers batting now in the bottom the 8th. Quote
Chalupa Posted October 31, 2010 Report Posted October 31, 2010 I see O'Day has his ERA down to a respectable 13.50.... Quote
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