colinmce Posted April 27, 2010 Report Posted April 27, 2010 (edited) Nice! They should follow up the Carter/Bradford set with a John Carter Roots and Folklore series set, as Matthew proposed in another thread. That would be a delight, but I imagine the licensing would be a nightmare. Then again, who knows. I was very surprised to see them get material leased (owned?) by Hat. Edited April 27, 2010 by colinmce Quote
David Ayers Posted April 27, 2010 Report Posted April 27, 2010 These new discoveries (almost two hours of unissued music) greatly expand the Carter/Bradford output, which was heretofore known to be only two albums each on Revelation and Flying Dutchman. There are lots of other Carter/Bradford releases - why make this obviously Andorran claim? Quote
mjzee Posted April 27, 2010 Report Posted April 27, 2010 These new discoveries (almost two hours of unissued music) greatly expand the Carter/Bradford output, which was heretofore known to be only two albums each on Revelation and Flying Dutchman. There are lots of other Carter/Bradford releases - why make this obviously Andorran claim? I recall once owning a Carter/Bradford on one of those small European labels from the late 70's (Moers Music?). Am I wrong? Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted April 27, 2010 Report Posted April 27, 2010 Think the difference is most were John Carter groups of varying size with Bradford as a member - not the Carter/Bradford quartet. There was also a Bradford/Carter quintet recording with Don Preston, Richard Davis and Andrew Cyrille (Hat) from 1988, but that's a different animal too. Quote
David Ayers Posted April 27, 2010 Report Posted April 27, 2010 I see what you are saying, but it's not what *they* are saying and it's a slightly technical defence! I can't see any reason to discount the live session by the same quartet which made Seeking (except that, admittedly, it's obscure) or any reason to discount the other Hat, or the two discs of duets on Emanem. I think their blurb writer is just a bit given to overkill('Collectors have waited years. Now it's here. Complete and in the best ever sound. Some of the greatest kazoo playing you never heard. Note-for-note annotation by a tame genius we keep in the cellar.') Quote
David Ayers Posted April 27, 2010 Report Posted April 27, 2010 The people have a right to be told the truth!! Quote
gmonahan Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) I'm surprised not to see more enthusiasm here for the Jamal set. Seems like lots of people on the board have been panting for that one for a long time! I'm not that familiar with Jamal's work, but what I've heard makes me think this might be quite the set, provided the sources permitted them to remaster it with good enough sound. All that about the warehouse fire did sound a bit worrisome, soundwise. gregmo Edit--did I really use the word "sound" that much?! :blush2: Edited April 28, 2010 by Greg M. Quote
gmonahan Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 For those of you as fanatical as I am... I called HQ and was able to place a pre-order for the Jamal set... :blush2: :blush2: :blush2: :rolleyes: 9CDs.. expected to be out in July... I am NOW officially done buying CD for 2010!!!!!! and I mean it this time.... :crazy: :crazy: Right! Sure! Uh-huh! How many times have I told MYSELF that one?!?! gregmo Quote
Joe Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 You had me at "almost two hours of unissued music." Quote
tranemonk Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 I'm digging it.. I'm surprised not to see more enthusiasm here for the Jamal set. Seems like lots of people on the board have been panting for that one for a long time! I'm not that familiar with Jamal's work, but what I've heard makes me think this might be quite the set, provided the sources permitted them to remaster it with good enough sound. All that about the warehouse fire did sound a bit worrisome, soundwise. gregmo Edit--did I really use the word "sound" that much?! :blush2: Quote
king ubu Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 Hey, I'm pretty excited about the Jamal. I held off buying any spanish boots for years, and I continued reading about a Mosaic for years, too... and I - after all - lived well without all the music for years, also... yet I'll be getting this... hopefully before it goes OOP, it'll be a pricey basterd! Quote
clifford_thornton Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 These new discoveries (almost two hours of unissued music) greatly expand the Carter/Bradford output, which was heretofore known to be only two albums each on Revelation and Flying Dutchman. There are lots of other Carter/Bradford releases - why make this obviously Andorran claim? I recall once owning a Carter/Bradford on one of those small European labels from the late 70's (Moers Music?). Am I wrong? Yeah, that's right. It's Carter's date. I have the previously issued material on wax but will be very happy to have this set. Quote
neveronfriday Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 The name "Jamal" always reminds me of the only CD I ever lost: CD 1 from the double-CD "Cross Country Tour: 1958-1961 (Chess)". Still pi**es me off every time I see that half-empty digipak in my collection. I love that reissue. I have absolutely no idea how it could have gotten lost. It only traveled from shelf to player and back again. Poof. Gone. Checked, double- and triple-checked a million times. Put it in the wrong cover? Behind another CD? Different case? ... Nope. Will now replace it with a second copy as, if I'm not mistaken, that material is not on the Mosaic set. Or is it? I'm often too weak these days to consult a thread for more than the most basic info. Things should improve at my end once my health has been brought back to normal via that radio treatment this upcoming weekend. Until then ... I don't read more than a few lines online a day, if at all. So, sorry, for not checking this thread thoroughly. P.S.: The Jamal Mosaic is top-of-the-list for me. Will buy as soon as it is out. Quote
happy the clown Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 Yeah, i have to get both of these, and the Threadgill when that shows up. No air conditioning this summer! Quote
J.A.W. Posted April 28, 2010 Author Report Posted April 28, 2010 All the best, Volkher, and hang in there! Quote
Bill B Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 All "Cross Country Tour" selections will be in the box. Covers the years 1956,1958-62. Check it out here ahmadjamal.net/discography.pdf Quote
neveronfriday Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 All "Cross Country Tour" selections will be in the box. Covers the years 1956,1958-62. Check it out here ahmadjamal.net/discography.pdf @Bill: Ah, great. Thanks for that! Just saved me some money. @ Hans: Doin' my best! := Quote
J.A.W. Posted April 28, 2010 Author Report Posted April 28, 2010 I don't know if the list is still up-to-date, but I listed the albums that will be included in the box in this post. Quote
mikeweil Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 As the material in the Jamal set is from the Universal group, I reckon there will be a European edition - I will definitely go for it. Quote
crisp Posted April 29, 2010 Report Posted April 29, 2010 There hasn't been a European edition of the Louis Armstrong set -- also Universal material, so I fear that policy has ended (all those online discounts...?) Quote
JETman Posted May 11, 2010 Report Posted May 11, 2010 Does anyone else find it odd that the price of the 9 cd Jamal set is $149? Quote
Big Wheel Posted May 11, 2010 Report Posted May 11, 2010 Does anyone else find it odd that the price of the 9 cd Jamal set is $149? Yeah, that is a little odd considering the new price for big boxes is $17 per disc. I wonder if they are experimenting a little bit to see what happens when giving customers a break around the shipping threshold of $150. Total cost with shipping is $159, whereas if it were priced normally at $153 it would be $165. Quote
Bol Posted May 11, 2010 Report Posted May 11, 2010 I don't know if the list is still up-to-date, but I listed the albums that will be included in the box in this post. It appears that either this set will include a lot of un-issued material, or there will be more recordings included than the ones that Hans lists (perhaps including the Impulse! sessions?). I am hoping for the former. Quote
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