BFT 73 (It's All About the) Discussion (of ME) Thread

[Big Al]

Links have been PM'd and discs will be mailed out tonight. 24 tracks in all, just shy of 90 minutes. Kinda like an old-fashioned double-LP, where each record was about 45 minutes long. With that in mind, I've come up with some titles for this Blindfold Test:

The Whitebread AL-bum

Big Al's Brew

Al, and Other Assorted Silly Songs

Ex-Lax on Al Street

Goodbye Allo Brick Road

Mellon Collie and the Infinite Al

Chicago Transit Al

Blonde on Al on Blonde

Al Portrait

QuadropheniAL

Big Al Fever

and on and on and on.....

Enjoy!

[Chuck Nessa]

U 2 much.

[Chas]

Just had a quick listen and was able to i.d. a couple of things -

Disc 1 Track 3 : Be's That Way From Dizzy Gillespie & Gil Fuller with the Monterey Festival Jazz Orchestra .

Disc 1 track 10 : Cielito Lindo from Ed Thigpen's Out Of The Storm album .

Disc 1 track 12 :Poinciana played by The Ventures from their Latin Album .

Disc 2 track 18 : Curiosity From Herbie Hancock's Blow-Up Original Soundtrack .

Disc 2 track 22 : All Is Well from Gabor Szabo's Rambler CTI album .

And a couple of very preliminary guesses -

Disc 1 Track 5 : Johnny Lytle ?

Disc 1 Track 6 : Jack McDuff ?

Disc 1 Track 7 : Stanley Turrentine with Shirley Scott ?

Disc 2 track 17 : Kenny Burrell ?

I'm interested to find out what Disc 1 Track 9 is .

[Big Al]

Just had a quick listen and was able to i.d. a couple of things -

Disc 1 Track 3 : Be's That Way From Dizzy Gillespie & Gil Fuller with the Monterey Festival Jazz Orchestra .

Disc 1 track 10 : Cielito Lindo from Ed Thigpen's Out Of The Storm album .

Disc 1 track 12 :Poinciana played by The Ventures from their Latin Album .

Disc 2 track 18 : Curiosity From Herbie Hancock's Blow-Up Original Soundtrack .

Disc 2 track 22 : All Is Well from Gabor Szabo's Rambler CTI album .

I don't know which is more frightening: that the Ventures tune got ID'd so quickly.... or the fact that someone besides me would readily admit to KNOWING the Ventures track!

Great guesses! You nailed each of those!

And a couple of very preliminary guesses -

Disc 1 Track 5 : Johnny Lytle ? YES

Disc 1 Track 6 : Jack McDuff ? NO

Disc 1 Track 7 : Stanley Turrentine with Shirley Scott ? YES (wow! )

Disc 2 track 17 : Kenny Burrell ? YES AND NO (he's on it, but he's not the leader)

I'm interested to find out what Disc 1 Track 9 is .

U 2 much.

[thedwork]

amazing that chas was so fast and on point on this stuff. i'm in awe. i'm still putting my thoughts/guesses up for part one, even though i now know many are goofy/off. but some may be happening :

Disc One:

Track 1 – Mormon Tabernacle Trio's classic a capella version of the little known Bobby Timmons tune “Close Enough For Jazz.”

Track 2 – “Al's Birthday Hoe Down” by the Benny Hill Players

Track 3 – don't know this tune but it's awesome. this is so cool it deserves to be in an Austin Powers movie. really dug it. Cool trumpet battle.No guess on the arrangement but sounds like some kind of old school combination of quincy jones, herbie hancock cantaloupe island era vibe for the solos, and someone else adding a slightly cheesy vibe.

Track 4 – guessing it's the same as track 3! again, real nice trumpet playing. And that snare hit at the open reminds me of the snare hit from hancock's cantaloupe island again!

Track 5 – no guess. nice. Most laidback vibes player ever. Wayyyyyyy laidback. That stacatto stuff toward the end is cool. Deep tone on that organ.

Track 6 – sounds like “Oh Happy Day.” but different than how i'm used to hearing it form-wise somehow. Sounds like maybe grant green on guitar toward the end of the solo. Don't know who but very nice little arrangement.

Track 7 – reminds me at times of eddie harris but I don't think it's him. And the tone reminds me of sonny at times too, but i've never heard him play like this. Groovy for sure.

Track 8 – no idea. Sounds like an arrangements for the temptations w/ the organ substituting for the singers.

Track 9 – no idea. But this, like the previous track, sounds to me like it could be an instrumental arrangement of a 70s pop tune, but this one more like a steely dan tune, or chicago transit authority, instead of the temps. I really the horn stuff that starts at about 3:50. cool.

Track 10 – I gotta guess that that's jim hall, but I don't know the tune. Killer all 'round.

Track 11 – no guess (and i'm getting sleepy, but must finish part one...)

Track 12 – sounds like a chilled out danny gatton. No doubt someone gatton listened to and learned from, but I don't know who. Maybe it actually is gatton? Chet atkins? Very nice.

Thanks Al! I'll be back soon for part two...

[JSngry]

Having quickly skimmed once before now, & with thanks & stipulations firmly in place, as well as a HAPPY BIRTHDAY AL!!! I'm gonna be early for once!

TRACK ONE - Where the wagon? Or did somebody fall off one? The voice at the end reminds me of Stan Freberg, and not until the skim of the last cut did I find out who it really was!

TRACK TWO - Ringo meets The Moms And Dads At Les Paul's house?

TRACK THREE - Dizzy. Of course! Is this from the Gil Fuller/Monterrey PJ album? That 2nd trumpet is Sweets, right? What's the track called..."Be's That Way", yeah (had to get up & look at the album). That's a good album...I wanted more from it, bought it as a cutout in the old Treasure City days - high school - and revisit it every so often, but this sounds more like the CD than it does the LP, and I think it sounds better, more clarity out of the rhythm section (Earl Palmer on drums, right?) & that adds immeasurably to my enjoyment. Earl Palmer's backbeat is not something to trigle with!

TRACK FOUR - Sounds like Rudy's piano sound, so...I don't know. Sounds vaguely familiar, but at this point in time, no idea. Trumpet is either Byrd or Blue, but really can't be sure right now...UNLESS this is one of those Duke Pearson bib band sides, which, yes, I think it is. Might even be one of the ones they left off the CD, one of the boogaloos...lemme check the LP..."ok, "Mississippi Dip", featuring a young Randy Brecker(!). for my money, the 2nd DPBB album was much better/consistent, but that's not how they saw it when it came time to reissue. Oh well!

TRACK FIVE - You should hear Mondo Grosso cover "Laughter In te Rain". They take a total chesseball tune and make into a slinky/groovy muffapukker, no small thanks to some great bass playing by Shinichi Osawa and a good feel for tempo, not too on top, not too far back, just eight there, right in the in-between, right where you f*ck when you plan on hangin' in there for a good long while (and when i say "you", i mean that in the general sense, of course...). Here, hear for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhK_5ttJfbg It's actually longer than this, they come back for another chorus after the sax break, but hey, you know, You Tube... All of which is to say that this track ain't much on it's own accord, but it feels pretty damn good, and in the end, what do you want - good grammar or good taste?

TRACK SIX - Oh Happy Day! (you say that now, wait until 40 turns into 50...). I am not 100% certain that this is from an actual "jazz" record...the organist does a few things that tip the hand that he/she has been in a church somewhere otehr than in a pew...and one lick sounds like James Brown, but that ain't JB playing organ, I know. Guitar slmost hits like Grant, but I think not. don't know this record, but I think I want to!

TRACK SEVEN - Turrentine/Scott. I love those two together. Big time. that's all I need to say about that, becuase everything else about this one speaks for itself.

TRACK EIGHT - Wow...that's like one of those "Lounge Classics" that ther's about 8 million blogs devoted to, only this one has jazz organ in it. And a really odd adding of extra reverb to the drum track at 3:35! It's not often that you a hear a cut that's equal parts "Papa Was a Rolling Stone", "Along comes Mary", and a Nelson Riddle MPS record (in fact, if I was going to guess anybody/anything here, it would be a Nelson Riddle MPS record), but here one is!

TRACK NINE - I really like the tune here...sounds like really hip 60s B-Side of a pop record (or a failed A-Side) that somebody made an instrumental cover of for god knows what reason. Also sounds like one of those local Spiritual Jazz things that keep getting pleasantly rediscovered....it's not "great", but I like the spirit of it as if it were. This ain't Plunky by any chance, is it? Nah... TWO alto players? Fine drummer!

TRACK TEN - Ed Thigpen on Verve. That album is one of the most surprising discoveries I've had in the last 10 years. The early-70s fusion album of his is every bit as surprising, just a little less pleasantly so. But I mean, in both cases, who knew? Not me, that's for sure.

TRACK ELEVEN - pre-Castro Cuban hotel music? Now I better understand the Revolution....you know, me, I kid because I love, but...I ain't kidding here.

TRACK TWELVE - oh my! "Poinciana", Disco, and The Ventures, all in one! Frankly, those are three things where any two of the three could potentially work well together. But this is all three together, innit...

TRACK THIRTEEN - Almost Ellington in every way, but I don't hear Carney...where is Harry? Hmmm....slight as gar as Ellingtonia goes, but still pretty damn good, jsut listen to that sax section, with or without Carney.

TRACK FOURTEEN - Alto flute? Once I Loved/O Amor Em Paz...when you're a kid you don't even know how records are made, but once you do...the flutist is so close-miked, quite possible even overdubbed or otherwise isolated from the backing track...but that's technicalities...it's just a good reading of the melody over a really tasty MOR-ish background. Tasty & professional on every level. I got no beef with any of that.

TRACK FIFTEEN - Sounds like Herbie Mann in spots, but not in others (how's that for an authoritative analysis?). Ok, the longer it goes on, not. Once again, it sounds like Rudy, so that should narrow it down...I think that's Billy on drums, sounds like his tuning & his pocket...but ah, erah, i don't know. It's got a good beat and I can dance to it, if that helps!

TRACK SIXTEEN - Lionel Hampton. Little Timmy can go fuck himself, but I like Lionel Hampton! Neat little tritone-sub thing the pianist does on the bridge too. That's "Fiddle Diddle", right? Now here's where it gets interesting...I thought that wa Roy eldridge, but no, it's Walter Fuller, aka Gil Fuller, so here it is in October 1938, here's Dizzy's future arranger on a Lionel Hampton date where there's that tritone sub thing going on...who put that in there? And almost a year later, Dizzy himself records with Hamp & throws in some flatted fiths (tritones)...so what does that mean? Maybe nothing, but you gotta love the evolutionary lineage that's hinted at there, maybe.

TRACK SEVENTEEN - Damn, I really should know this tune...almost sounds like a TV theme or something...I really enjoyed that one, especially how the drums & bass were recorded (as well as what they were recorded playing. The whole thing is a little gem, really. Marvellous!

TRACK EIGHTEEN - Joe, that much I know. All i need to know, really...don't know the album, want/need to.

TRACK NINETEEN - Nice enough all around, but....then again...oh well, can't find anything wrong here except maybe too much cuteness, and that's subjective.

TRACK TWENTY - You know that Castro guy from Track 11? Yeah, him. Tell him to book the next flight out of Havana and get here ASAP. I got a gig for him.

TRACK TWENTY-ONE - Did not extract from the zip for me . But I bet it's worth hearing!

TRACK TWENTY-TWO - I respect what I perceive to be the intended sincerity of this music to the degree that it is actually there.

TRACK TWENTY-THREE - Same.

TRACK TWENTY-FOUR - Submitted for your approval:

ALL SEVEN of them:

Gracias beaucoup, Mr. Rearick. Enjoyed it!

And once again - HAPPY 40!

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

BFT74

Happy Birthday again, Al!

1 “Abide with me”, sung by a not terribly in tune quartet. “Close enough for jazz”, the man says. Perhaps it’s Stan Freberg. No, I think it's you.

2 “Happy Birthday” to you!

3 Ah, an R&B song, I think, played by a big band. Oh, isn’t that Nat Adderley? Seventies vintage, I reckon. Something produced by David Axelrod, I’m guessing. The arrangement is a bit funny; oddly syncopated.

4 Oooooooo, nice! I don’t think I know the trumpet player. Really nice band and arrangement – keep it simple. Wish it had gone on longer.

5 At a guess, I’d say this is the Afro-Blues Quintet +1. But did they ever use a marimba? Don’t know; I only have one compilation of their work. But this sounds a bit like them.

Just gonna try that again, in case it’s Johnny Lytle. Yes, its Johnny Lytle. One I haven’t got, so it’s got to be from:

“Johnny Lytle does it again” (PJ);

“The sound of velvet soul” (SS); or

“Be proud” (SS).

And I’m going to guess it’s from the Pacific Jazz LP. Very nice.

6 Hey, this is nice, too! Can’t finger the organist immediately. Love the sound of the band behind. Guitarist sounds a bit weak. I get a kind of Gene Ludwig feeling about the organist, but I’m not sure of that.

7 Oh, here’s one I have. Pulling the LP out to play it all later. It’s track 1, side 2 of BST84315.

8 I nearly recognise this tune. My initial guess was it’s something from the LP of “Soulful flutes”. But I don’t think the organist would be as strong as this. It’s the strings that are putting me off this. Sounds more like McGriff than most.

9 Funny tune; another one I nearly recognise. Don’t think I know the saxman. He sometimes reminds me of the little I’ve heard by Zorn. It all strikes me as being just a little bit too busy.

10 Latin calypso “Ay ay ay ay” – don’t know the real title; perhaps it’s “Ceilito Linda”. Lovely trumpet player. Nice guitarist. Nice pianist. The guitarist sounds like Michael Howell. Maybe this is Diz. And Mike Longo. Interesting.

11 More Latin. No guesses here. Pleasant, but seems to last a lot longer than 3:18.

12 “Poinciana” played as if it were from the soundtrack of “The magnificent seven”. I wonder if it’s Al Caiola. Or is this the versatile Henry Mancini? (Not, apparently, the Fifty Guitars of Tommy Garret – and thanks for that!) Definitely one for TTK, this.

Disc 2

13 “Bobby”, she sings. But I don’t know who she is. Or if “Bobby” is the title. Or if I want to hear it again.

14 A tune I know. A Jobim tune, “Once I loved”. Very nice. Could be by Jobim.

15 Don’t know this. I’m not very good with flute players. I can often recognise David Newman, but that’s usually about as far as it goes. This guy seems quite good, though. But overall, this sounds like an album filler.

16 Surely this is Lionel Hampton? But the arrangement seems a bit too corny or him. Oh, well, it IS Hamp. It’s the track that appeared twice. And quite right, too.

17 Oh my, isn’t this one nice! Now here’s something that’s been missing from my life. I just wanted that to go on and on.

18 At one and a half minutes, this must be something from a sound track.

19 Nice piano trio, but nothing special for me, I’m afraid. There’s something about the tune, though…

Second time through, “Shiny stockings” occurred to me. And the name Guaraldi, Vince.

20 Sounds like it ought to be Jerome Morross. No, it’s slightly too intimate. No idea. Loved the tenor solo.

21 No 21

22 This didn’t grab me right from the start. And it didn’t grab me right from after the start, too. But, surprisingly, it didn’t grab me right from when it got going, also.

23 “Amazing grace” – kind of a country type version, but with Latin percussion. Nice, but not really getting to me, y’know?

24 Must be you, Al

Well, that was nice, Al. Thanks very much!

[thedwork]

alright - time to post my thoughts/guesses for part 2 and then go back to read my punishment

Part 2:

Track 13 - Whoa. Awesome. No idea who/what but I love how the vocal doesn't enter until nearly halfway through. Nice plunger playing by the brass section. Sax section reminded of some scenes from Kubrick's The Shining somehow.

Track 14 - again no idea. this is the 1st track of the whole BFT that I don't at all care for. Blech. Oh well, can't like 'em all.

Track 15 - starting to realize here that I will likely not know any of the music to come! Pleasant enough groove here but not anything i'd be interested in owning and repeatedly spinning for myself or my friends. Nice piano solo though. Everything brightened up there quite a bit.

Track 17 – again, the comping makes me think of jim hall (like that track on part 1 that ended up being burrell), but i'm probably wrong again. Nice enough track. Bars 9-11 from the top are the 1st four (three) of the last eight of “There Will Never Be Another You,” but I don't know what the rest of the tune is

Track 18 – first thought here was oliver nelson. sounds kinda like his writing, or somebody copping that sound. Recording sounds more contemporary/recent though. to me but no idea what the tune is. Tenor definitely sounds like Henderson. Amazing bass playing/sound. Cuts off!@#$% WTF!!!!!!!!!!! definitely wanna find out what this is.

Track 20 – no guess. No interest. perfectly fine music though. Nice horn entrance at 1:26... sounds like film music.

Track 23 – “amazing grace” immediately making me think frisell. We'll see in a minute or so. I'm a minute in now and i'm pretty sure my first impression was wrong. Not frisell. Sounds very nice though. Will be interested in finding out who this is. Shepik?

Track 24 - Tenacious D “The Greatest Song In The World”

totally awesome Al. Happy b-day and thanks...

[Big Al]

I'm interested to find out what Disc 1 Track 9 is .

I can almost guarantee that one member will ID this, if my memory serves me correctly. And if he doesn't ID it, I'm gonna give him SO much grief!

[Big Al]

The link for track 21 has been sent. Let me know if there are problems with this one.

[Big Al]

And thank you all for your generosity concerning the first, second, and final tracks!

amazing that chas was so fast and on point on this stuff. i'm in awe. i'm still putting my thoughts/guesses up for part one, even though i now know many are goofy/off. but some may be happening :

Disc One:

Track 1 – Mormon Tabernacle Trio's classic a capella version of the little known Bobby Timmons tune “Close Enough For Jazz.”

Track 2 – “Al's Birthday Hoe Down” by the Benny Hill Players

Track 3 – don't know this tune but it's awesome. this is so cool it deserves to be in an Austin Powers movie. really dug it. Cool trumpet battle.No guess on the arrangement but sounds like some kind of old school combination of quincy jones, herbie hancock cantaloupe island era vibe for the solos, and someone else adding a slightly cheesy vibe.

Track 4 – guessing it's the same as track 3! again, real nice trumpet playing. And that snare hit at the open reminds me of the snare hit from hancock's cantaloupe island again!

Track 5 – no guess. nice. Most laidback vibes player ever. Wayyyyyyy laidback. That stacatto stuff toward the end is cool. Deep tone on that organ.

Track 6 – sounds like “Oh Happy Day.” but different than how i'm used to hearing it form-wise somehow. Sounds like maybe grant green on guitar toward the end of the solo. Don't know who but very nice little arrangement.

Track 7 – reminds me at times of eddie harris but I don't think it's him. And the tone reminds me of sonny at times too, but i've never heard him play like this. Groovy for sure.

Track 8 – no idea. Sounds like an arrangements for the temptations w/ the organ substituting for the singers.

Track 9 – no idea. But this, like the previous track, sounds to me like it could be an instrumental arrangement of a 70s pop tune, but this one more like a steely dan tune, or chicago transit authority, instead of the temps. I really the horn stuff that starts at about 3:50. cool.

Track 10 – I gotta guess that that's jim hall, but I don't know the tune. Killer all 'round.

Track 11 – no guess (and i'm getting sleepy, but must finish part one...)

Track 12 – sounds like a chilled out danny gatton. No doubt someone gatton listened to and learned from, but I don't know who. Maybe it actually is gatton? Chet atkins? Very nice.

Thanks Al! I'll be back soon for part two...

Great stuff, thedwork! Loved your suggested titles for the first two tracks! Now that you know who's on track 10, you'll.... nah, I'm getting ahead of myself!

[Big Al]

I know this is gonna sound corny & all, but without fail on every BFT I've ever put together, there has always been an aura of "I wonder if Sangrey has THIS record?" or "I wonder when was the last time Sangrey listened to THIS record, since he probly already has it?" It's always a pleasant surprise if Jim states that he doesn't have a record; then I feel like I've accomplished something!

TRACK ONE - Can't wait to share the story of this come answer-time!

TRACK TWO - I was wondering when/if someone would figure out what I did here! Another groovy nomination for a title to this track!

TRACK THREE - Dizzy, of course! From the CD. Another groovy story I can't wait to tell y'all about!

TRACK FOUR - This was left off the CD version? I used to have that and I forgot there were missing tracks. Makes me that much gladder I found the LP!

TRACK FIVE - I'll has me some taste there, if'n you doesn't mine!

TRACK SIX - I'm kinda suprised no one's figured this one out yet. Sangrey 2,187,620; Big Al 2!

TRACK SEVEN - Oh yeah! Amazing how something that sounds so difficult is, in reality, a bitch to play. Yet they make it sound so easy!

TRACK EIGHT - Sangrey 2,187,621; Big Al 3!

TRACK TEN - RIP VEE

TRACK ELEVEN - Ouch! Guess I won't go back to Half Price Books and get those Columbias I was lookin' at!

TRACK TWELVE - Sweet Jesus, the ONE track I thought nobody would get and possibly start a riot and it's already been identified. TWICE!!!! Y'all never cease to amaze me! Which, I guess makes track 24 a little more prophetic than I'd planned!

TRACK THIRTEEN - March 2010: I finally tricked Sangrey, with an Ellington track of all things! My money would've been on the Ventures track!

TRACKS FOURTEEN AND FIFTEEN – “Sounds like Herbie Mann in spots,”

[insert evil cackle here]

TRACK SIXTEEN - I had no idea!!! See why I love it when you participate in the BFT's? All kindsa stuff I learn here! This track is on here because of the Little Timmy stuff. Can't wait to tell y'all that story. At this rate, the answers to this BFT are gonna have to be bound in book form!

TRACK SEVENTEEN - Everybody gets the Ventures tune, but nobody's gotten this? Am I the only person who owns this record???

TRACK EIGHTEEN - Joe 'tis!

TRACK TWENTY - Gimme till the end of March and I'll see if I can do for them what I did for the folks on track 2! hahahahahaha

TRACK TWENTY-ONE - Oh yes it is! I'm disappointed that this one got so futzed cuz it was one of the first of the permanent choices for the BFT.

TRACK TWENTY-FOUR - YES!!!! Truly amazing the fun one can have when one's son owns a Morley Wah Pedal and a Big Muff distortion pedal!

Gracias beaucoup, Mr. Rearick. Enjoyed it!

To quote Herbie, "The pleasure is mine!"

And once again - HAPPY 40!

Oh it was! And is! At least that's what my legs are screaming at me right now after attempting to walk five flights of stairs. But that's another story for another time.....

[Big Al]

BFT74

Happy Birthday again, Al!

1 “Abide with me”, sung by a not terribly in tune quartet. “Close enough for jazz”, the man says. Perhaps it’s Stan Freberg. No, I think it's you.

2 “Happy Birthday” to you!

3 Ah, an R&B song, I think, played by a big band. Oh, isn’t that Nat Adderley? Seventies vintage, I reckon. Something produced by David Axelrod, I’m guessing. The arrangement is a bit funny; oddly syncopated.

4 Oooooooo, nice! I don’t think I know the trumpet player. Really nice band and arrangement – keep it simple. Wish it had gone on longer.

5 At a guess, I’d say this is the Afro-Blues Quintet +1. But did they ever use a marimba? Don’t know; I only have one compilation of their work. But this sounds a bit like them.

Just gonna try that again, in case it’s Johnny Lytle. Yes, its Johnny Lytle. One I haven’t got, so it’s got to be from:

“Johnny Lytle does it again” (PJ);

“The sound of velvet soul” (SS); or

“Be proud” (SS).

And I’m going to guess it’s from the Pacific Jazz LP. Very nice.

6 Hey, this is nice, too! Can’t finger the organist immediately. Love the sound of the band behind. Guitarist sounds a bit weak. I get a kind of Gene Ludwig feeling about the organist, but I’m not sure of that.

7 Oh, here’s one I have. Pulling the LP out to play it all later. It’s track 1, side 2 of BST84315.

8 I nearly recognise this tune. My initial guess was it’s something from the LP of “Soulful flutes”. But I don’t think the organist would be as strong as this. It’s the strings that are putting me off this. Sounds more like McGriff than most.

9 Funny tune; another one I nearly recognise. Don’t think I know the saxman. He sometimes reminds me of the little I’ve heard by Zorn. It all strikes me as being just a little bit too busy.

10 Latin calypso “Ay ay ay ay” – don’t know the real title; perhaps it’s “Ceilito Linda”. Lovely trumpet player. Nice guitarist. Nice pianist. The guitarist sounds like Michael Howell. Maybe this is Diz. And Mike Longo. Interesting.

11 More Latin. No guesses here. Pleasant, but seems to last a lot longer than 3:18.

12 “Poinciana” played as if it were from the soundtrack of “The magnificent seven”. I wonder if it’s Al Caiola. Or is this the versatile Henry Mancini? (Not, apparently, the Fifty Guitars of Tommy Garret – and thanks for that!) Definitely one for TTK, this.

Disc 2

13 “Bobby”, she sings. But I don’t know who she is. Or if “Bobby” is the title. Or if I want to hear it again.

14 A tune I know. A Jobim tune, “Once I loved”. Very nice. Could be by Jobim.

15 Don’t know this. I’m not very good with flute players. I can often recognise David Newman, but that’s usually about as far as it goes. This guy seems quite good, though. But overall, this sounds like an album filler.

16 Surely this is Lionel Hampton? But the arrangement seems a bit too corny or him. Oh, well, it IS Hamp. It’s the track that appeared twice. And quite right, too.

17 Oh my, isn’t this one nice! Now here’s something that’s been missing from my life. I just wanted that to go on and on.

18 At one and a half minutes, this must be something from a sound track.

19 Nice piano trio, but nothing special for me, I’m afraid. There’s something about the tune, though…

Second time through, “Shiny stockings” occurred to me. And the name Guaraldi, Vince.

20 Sounds like it ought to be Jerome Morross. No, it’s slightly too intimate. No idea. Loved the tenor solo.

21 No 21

22 This didn’t grab me right from the start. And it didn’t grab me right from after the start, too. But, surprisingly, it didn’t grab me right from when it got going, also.

23 “Amazing grace” – kind of a country type version, but with Latin percussion. Nice, but not really getting to me, y’know?

24 Must be you, Al

Well, that was nice, Al. Thanks very much!

1. "No terribly in tune:" I resemble that remark!!!

2. Thank you! Thank you!

3. Not Adderley, Axelrod, etc. But definitely an R&B tune played by a big band!

4. Me too! This one's too short!

5. Lytle yes, but none of the albums you mentioned (which has now become a shopping list for me!)

7. Bingo!

10. Well, you got the title right!

11. Can't believe this lovely little tune isn't getting more love!

12. REALLY can't believe this is getting more love than track 11 around here! Not bad for four white Americans more known for surf music than anything else! I shoulda used this track a long time ago!

16. It is Lionel Hampton, and don't call me Shirley!

17. Me too!

18. It is!

19. "Shiny Stockings!" It's not that, but I've been trying to figure out where I heard that line before! Thanks MG!

22. Now THAT was funny!

24. What gave it away?

Glad you enjoyed it!

[Chas]

5 At a guess, I’d say this is the Afro-Blues Quintet +1. But did they ever use a marimba? Don’t know; I only have one compilation of their work. But this sounds a bit like them.

Just gonna try that again, in case it’s Johnny Lytle. Yes, its Johnny Lytle. One I haven’t got, so it’s got to be from:

“Johnny Lytle does it again” (PJ);

“The sound of velvet soul” (SS); or

“Be proud” (SS).

And I’m going to guess it’s from the Pacific Jazz LP. Very nice.

Like you , I suspected it was Lytle as well , and wondered if I had it . Turns out I do . This track is Baden Powell's Samba da Bênção (a.k.a.Samba Saravah) from Lytle's first Solid-State LP , A Man And A Woman , which features music from the Claude Lelouch film of that name . The organist on this date , Jimmy Foster , is also on Lytle's two Pacific Jazz sides .

And to Al , and others who dig Lytle's playing , I heartily recommend The Soulful Rebel and People & Love (both on Milestone). The former is all kinds of groovy , while the latter dishes up the soulful tag team of Marvin Cabell and.............Betty Glamann !

[Chas]

TRACK FOUR - Sounds like Rudy's piano sound, so...I don't know. Sounds vaguely familiar, but at this point in time, no idea. Trumpet is either Byrd or Blue, but really can't be sure right now...UNLESS this is one of those Duke Pearson big band sides, which, yes, I think it is. Might even be one of the ones they left off the CD, one of the boogaloos...lemme check the LP..."ok, "Mississippi Dip", featuring a young Randy Brecker(!). for my money, the 2nd DPBB album was much better/consistent, but that's not how they saw it when it came time to reissue. Oh well!

TRACK FOUR - This was left off the CD version? I used to have that and I forgot there were missing tracks. Makes me that much gladder I found the LP!

Mississippi Dip is on the Introducing Duke Pearson's Big Band CD . The three tracks that were left off the CD were from Now Hear This .

I might have gotten this one if it wasn't for the fact that it's one of the tracks I skip when I play the CD

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

5 At a guess, I’d say this is the Afro-Blues Quintet +1. But did they ever use a marimba? Don’t know; I only have one compilation of their work. But this sounds a bit like them.

Just gonna try that again, in case it’s Johnny Lytle. Yes, its Johnny Lytle. One I haven’t got, so it’s got to be from:

“Johnny Lytle does it again” (PJ);

“The sound of velvet soul” (SS); or

“Be proud” (SS).

And I’m going to guess it’s from the Pacific Jazz LP. Very nice.

Like you , I suspected it was Lytle as well , and wondered if I had it . Turns out I do . This track is Baden Powell's Samba da Bênção (a.k.a.Samba Saravah) from Lytle's first Solid-State LP , A Man And A Woman , which features music from the Claude Lelouch film of that name . The organist on this date , Jimmy Foster , is also on Lytle's two Pacific Jazz sides .

And to Al , and others who dig Lytle's playing , I heartily recommend The Soulful Rebel and People & Love (both on Milestone). The former is all kinds of groovy , while the latter dishes up the soulful tag team of Marvin Cabell and.............Betty Glamann !

Damn! That was the only Lytle album I didn't check out, because I thought it couldn't be that one!

I agree about the Milestones. I put "People make the world go round" in my all organist BFT a few years ago.

MG

[Big Al]

Apparently, there's a lotta Lytle I need to find & check out!

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Apparently, there's a lotta Lytle I need to find & check out!

Perhaps it's time for a Johnny Lytle thread. I'll think about that later.

MG

[Chas]

My initial guess for Disc 1 Track 6 involved a McX-up - it's McGriff not McDuff !

This version of Oh Happy Day is from McGriff's Solid-State album , A Thing To Come By .

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

(Hangs head in shame)

MG

[JSngry]

TRACK 21 - Hugh Masakela, Dudu Pakwana, & Co. on Blue Thumb (later impulse!, later Verve). Masakela has always struck me as a limited but engaging player (which is better than the other way around), Pakwana as a total individual, Who else you got on here? Larry Willis, yeah. Fine player. Eddie Gomez...I've never really "got" Eddie Gomez..I forget who the drummer is... truthfully, I've always liked this album more than loved it, although there are plenty of people who will go to the mat for it. To my ears, it only really comes alive when Pakwana steps up. There was a guy who heard the alto unlike anybody else, and thank god for both that and him.

[JSngry]

TRACK ELEVEN - Ouch! Guess I won't go back to Half Price Books and get those Columbias I was lookin' at!

Are we talking Xavier Cugat here?

[Alexander Hawkins]

TRACK 21 - Hugh Masakela, Dudu Pakwana, & Co. on Blue Thumb (later impulse!, later Verve). Masakela has always struck me as a limited but engaging player (which is better than the other way around), Pakwana as a total individual, Who else you got on here? Larry Willis, yeah. Fine player. Eddie Gomez...I've never really "got" Eddie Gomez..I forget who the drummer is... truthfully, I've always liked this album more than loved it, although there are plenty of people who will go to the mat for it. To my ears, it only really comes alive when Pakwana steps up. There was a guy who heard the alto unlike anybody else, and thank god for both that and him.

Drummer on this one is Makhaya Ntshoko...great player! There's a great live thing from Willisau with him, Irene Schweizer, Tchicai, and - IIRC - Buschi Niebergall! Also, he's on some of Johnny Dyani's Steeplechases.

p.s. Dudu's surname is 'Pukwana' - and wholeheartedly agree on your comments about him - a master!

Edited March 10, 2010 by Alexander Hawkins

[Big Al]

My initial guess for Disc 1 Track 6 involved a McX-up - it's McGriff not McDuff !

This version of Oh Happy Day is from McGriff's Solid-State album , A Thing To Come By .

TA-DAAHHH!!!

TRACK 21 - Hugh Masakela, Dudu Pakwana, & Co. on Blue Thumb (later impulse!, later Verve). Masakela has always struck me as a limited but engaging player (which is better than the other way around), Pakwana as a total individual, Who else you got on here? Larry Willis, yeah. Fine player. Eddie Gomez...I've never really "got" Eddie Gomez..I forget who the drummer is... truthfully, I've always liked this album more than loved it, although there are plenty of people who will go to the mat for it. To my ears, it only really comes alive when Pakwana steps up. There was a guy who heard the alto unlike anybody else, and thank god for both that and him.

And I'm pretty much the opposite in every way: I love this album, but could do without a lot of Pukwana's high-end shrieks (which, I will agree wholeheartedly, are a whole 'nuther animal to begin with), love Larry Willis, and while I also don't get Gomez, I think this album represents his finest work (including and especially his work with Bill Evans, which I've always found too busy and too virtuosic).

TRACK ELEVEN - Ouch! Guess I won't go back to Half Price Books and get those Columbias I was lookin' at!

Are we talking Xavier Cugat here?

Yup!

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

TRACK 21 - Hugh Masakela, Dudu Pakwana, & Co. on Blue Thumb (later impulse!, later Verve). Masakela has always struck me as a limited but engaging player (which is better than the other way around), Pakwana as a total individual, Who else you got on here? Larry Willis, yeah. Fine player. Eddie Gomez...I've never really "got" Eddie Gomez..I forget who the drummer is... truthfully, I've always liked this album more than loved it, although there are plenty of people who will go to the mat for it. To my ears, it only really comes alive when Pakwana steps up. There was a guy who heard the alto unlike anybody else, and thank god for both that and him.

Been busy ripping stuff for my ipod, so I haven't listened to this. But I've got it, anyway...

MG