paul secor Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 I have the Complete Verve. I probably could have done better with the master takes set, but I'll go with what I already have. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted April 8, 2015 Author Report Posted April 8, 2015 I have the Complete Verve. I probably could have done better with the master takes set, but I'll go with what I already have. The master takes set is the terrible one. Metal, ugly, clumsy. Quote
paul secor Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 I have the Complete Verve. I probably could have done better with the master takes set, but I'll go with what I already have. The master takes set is the terrible one. Metal, ugly, clumsy. Didn't know about the format of the master takes set. The complete set is very clumsy also. Quote
gmonahan Posted April 8, 2015 Report Posted April 8, 2015 It's been a while since I visited this thread, but my GRP-produced Billie sets (2-disc complete Commodore and 2-disc complete Decca) each have a bunch of alternate takes. Are there more? And the complete Verve set I have is in cd-sized format, standard jewel boxes, easy to get to. The sound could be better, but the format of the packaging seems fine. gregmo Quote
medjuck Posted April 9, 2015 Report Posted April 9, 2015 I have the Complete Verve. I probably could have done better with the master takes set, but I'll go with what I already have. The master takes set is the terrible one. Metal, ugly, clumsy. Didn't know about the format of the master takes set. The complete set is very clumsy also. Yes. It's really difficult t get the cd album and the notes album out of the box! Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted April 9, 2015 Author Report Posted April 9, 2015 Sigh. Packaging and aesthetics are important to some of us. If they are not important to you, then please feel free to buy as many ugly things as you want, including this stupid box set. Quote
l p Posted April 9, 2015 Report Posted April 9, 2015 my GRP-produced Billie sets (2-disc complete Commodore and 2-disc complete Decca) each have a bunch of alternate takes. Are there more? gregmo mjcd volumes have takes not on official box sets v. = volume, tr = track on the volume columbia 1. I've got my love to keep me warm 12-jan-37 AT 20507-1 2'57'' v. 2, tr 18 2. I've got a date with a dream 15-sep-38 AT 23469-1 2'48'' v. 6, tr 13 (columbia box has 2 copies of the master take - mistake) 3. St. louis blues 15-okt-40 AT 28874-2 3'02'' v. 10, tr 2 (columbia box has 2 copies of the master take - mistake) 4. Loveless love 15-okt-40 AT 28875-2 3'18'' v. 10, tr 4 (columbia box has 2 copies of the master take - mistake) 5. Let's do it 21-mrt-41 INC 29987-3 1'08'' v. 10, tr 8 6. Love me or leave me 07-aug-41 INC 31004-? 0'34'' v 13, tr 19 7. Love me or leave me 07-aug-41 INC 31004-? 1'22'' v 13, tr 20 9. Gloomy sunday 07-aug-41 AT 31005-3 3'10'' v 11, tr 17 10. Gloomy sunday 07-aug-41 INC 31005-? 1'20'' v 13, tr 21 11. Mandy is two 10-feb-42 INC 32406-? 0'19'' v 13, tr 22 12. It's a sin to tell a lie 10-feb-42 INC 32407-? 0'43'' v 13, tr 24 commodore 13. I'll be seeing you 01-apr-44 AT A4750-2 3'29'' v. 13, tr 3 decca 14. That ole devil called love 08-nov-44 AT 72497-? 2'57'' v 17, tr 23 15. Big stuff 13-mrt-46 AT W73440 2'24'' v 15, tr 7 16. Big stuff 13-mrt-46 AT W73440-B 2'28'' v 15, tr 9 17. Deep song 13-feb-47 INC W73792 1'01'' v 16, tr 8 18. There is no greater love 13-feb-47 AT W73793 3'02'' v 16, tr 11 and not on mjcd volumes commodore I cover the waterfront 25-mrt-44 AT A4745-TK1 3'45'' on Complete Commodore Recordings, Original American, Vol. 1/2 Jazz Factory 22820, track 21 (a composite of takes 1 and 2 is on the grp set) Quote
gmonahan Posted April 9, 2015 Report Posted April 9, 2015 my GRP-produced Billie sets (2-disc complete Commodore and 2-disc complete Decca) each have a bunch of alternate takes. Are there more? gregmo mjcd volumes have takes not on official box sets v. = volume, tr = track on the volume columbia 1. I've got my love to keep me warm 12-jan-37 AT 20507-1 2'57'' v. 2, tr 18 2. I've got a date with a dream 15-sep-38 AT 23469-1 2'48'' v. 6, tr 13 (columbia box has 2 copies of the master take - mistake) 3. St. louis blues 15-okt-40 AT 28874-2 3'02'' v. 10, tr 2 (columbia box has 2 copies of the master take - mistake) 4. Loveless love 15-okt-40 AT 28875-2 3'18'' v. 10, tr 4 (columbia box has 2 copies of the master take - mistake) 5. Let's do it 21-mrt-41 INC 29987-3 1'08'' v. 10, tr 8 6. Love me or leave me 07-aug-41 INC 31004-? 0'34'' v 13, tr 19 7. Love me or leave me 07-aug-41 INC 31004-? 1'22'' v 13, tr 20 9. Gloomy sunday 07-aug-41 AT 31005-3 3'10'' v 11, tr 17 10. Gloomy sunday 07-aug-41 INC 31005-? 1'20'' v 13, tr 21 11. Mandy is two 10-feb-42 INC 32406-? 0'19'' v 13, tr 22 12. It's a sin to tell a lie 10-feb-42 INC 32407-? 0'43'' v 13, tr 24 commodore 13. I'll be seeing you 01-apr-44 AT A4750-2 3'29'' v. 13, tr 3 decca 14. That ole devil called love 08-nov-44 AT 72497-? 2'57'' v 17, tr 23 15. Big stuff 13-mrt-46 AT W73440 2'24'' v 15, tr 7 16. Big stuff 13-mrt-46 AT W73440-B 2'28'' v 15, tr 9 17. Deep song 13-feb-47 INC W73792 1'01'' v 16, tr 8 18. There is no greater love 13-feb-47 AT W73793 3'02'' v 16, tr 11 and not on mjcd volumes commodore I cover the waterfront 25-mrt-44 AT A4745-TK1 3'45'' on Complete Commodore Recordings, Original American, Vol. 1/2 Jazz Factory 22820, track 21 (a composite of takes 1 and 2 is on the grp set) Thanks for the response! I have to say that the alternate takes on the sets I have probably will do for me, but I could understand true Billie completists wanting every last one. gregmo Quote
l p Posted April 9, 2015 Report Posted April 9, 2015 for completeness, i'll add: http://www.billieholiday.be/Sessions/Session0034.htm 15 september 1938 columbia 7 You can't be mine (and someone else's too) AT 23470-1 AffIt CDAFS Box 1019-8 (disc five) 2'27'' 8 You can't be mine (and someone else's too) MT 23470-2 Vocalion 4396 2'22'' the billieholiday.be discographer claims that there is an alternate take, but the above two takes are the same. the mjcd Vol. 6 booklet confirms that there is no alternate take. and http://billieholiday.be/Sessions/Session0054.htm 7 august 1941 columbia 7 Gloomy sunday MT 31005-1 OKeh 6451 3'13'' 8 Gloomy sunday AT 31005-2 QueenIt Q-4501 3'21'' 9 Gloomy sunday AT 31005-3 Columbia C30783 (album G30782) 3'10'' the discographer (and maybe the booklet, which i don't have in front of me) claims that -1 and -3 are on the box set. but it's -1 and -2 that are the box set. (box set = the 10 cd Complete On Columbia (Lady Day) 33-44, (Columbia CXK 85470)) Quote
alankin Posted April 9, 2015 Report Posted April 9, 2015 What is "mjcd"? I believe it's the Masters of Jazz CD series of "The Complete..." Quote
l p Posted April 9, 2015 Report Posted April 9, 2015 What is "mjcd"? I believe it's the Masters of Jazz CD series of "The Complete..." yes, Masters of Jazz 'complete edition' series. all the volumes are listed at http://www.billieholiday.be/Albums/AlbumHome.htm just do a keyword search for Masters of Jazz. it's the volumes 1-27. Quote
John L Posted April 9, 2015 Report Posted April 9, 2015 Is that a third alternate of Mandy is Two? I wouldn't mind hearing it. Billie's delivery on that one is unbelievable. Quote
l p Posted April 9, 2015 Report Posted April 9, 2015 it's a false start. timings are at the right of each tune entry. Mandy is two 10-feb-42 INC 32406-? 0'19'' alot of these missing tunes are available on other compilations besides the mjcd volumes. have to search each session date in that online discography to see on which releases the tunes are issued. Quote
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