LF: Tristano Marsh Konitz Mosaic box (affordable)

[AmirBagachelles]

affordable = $150 or so, cash or trade (see also the Mosaic trade thread please), any leads would be appreciated. And in the meantime, any strong recommendations regarding Tristano's other catalog. Thanks

[alppila]

Hi - I went through this same headache a while ago, but soon realised (thanks to certain board members) that the vast majority of this set is now available on individual discs (most are recent remasters), which can be picked up for a fraction of the box's average second hand price tag. If you're interested, I could point you to the titles when I have some more time on my hands...

[felser]

Hi - I went through this same headache a while ago, but soon realised (thanks to certain board members) that the vast majority of this set is now available on individual discs (most are recent remasters), which can be picked up for a fraction of the box's average second hand price tag. If you're interested, I could point you to the titles when I have some more time on my hands...

Correct. Rhino/Atlantic put out a Tristano twofer that is only missing one track I think from two Tristano Atlantic albums, and most of not all of the Konitz and Marsh stuff is available on Atlantic, Rhino, and 32 Jazz titles. The Konitz stuff with guitar is really nice. As for other Tristano, I like the Crosscurrents reissue that came out on Capitol, and there is a good Proper box which gathers up the earlier sessions. Many of the "off label" live releases have utterly abysmal sound quality which makes the music unlistenable despite it's obvious artistic merits. Does anyone know if the rest of the live stuff from the Mosaic which is not on the Atlantic twofer ever came out on CD?

Edited February 12, 2010 by felser

[Man with the Golden Arm]

there is a "confucius" set on one of the Spanish issuers (LoneHill, Gambit). I wonder how it sounds??

[jazzbo]

This Spanish one is well worth getting.

[Larry Kart]

The Rhino set omits the most important track from "The New Tristano," "C Minor Complex."

[paul secor]

Whatever way you go to pick up the music, try and get hold of a copy of the Mosaic booklet with Larry Kart's writings on the music.

[kh1958]

The Rhino set omits the most important track from "The New Tristano," "C Minor Complex."

That track is awesome.

For early Tristano, there are two Classics CDs, 1946-47 and 1947-49.

Edited February 12, 2010 by kh1958

[felser]

The Rhino set omits the most important track from "The New Tristano," "C Minor Complex."

Is that track available anywhere except the Mosaic box?

[Man with the Golden Arm]

The Rhino set omits the most important track from "The New Tristano," "C Minor Complex."

Is that track available anywhere except the Mosaic box?

it's on the single edition (non twofer, newer) of "The New..."

[Larry Kart]

Whatever way you go to pick up the music, try and get hold of a copy of the Mosaic booklet with Larry Kart's writings on the music.

The complete text of the Mosaic booklet (minus personnel info, track listings, etc.) also can be found in my book "Jazz In Search of Itself," along with a lot of other stuff. A good many remainder and used copies seem to be available through Amazon at lowish prices.

[ghost of miles]

Excellent set, excellent notes.

Hey Larry, the other day I went to pull a book from my shelves at home and noticed that (by the logic of my own internal ordering system) JAZZ IN SEARCH OF ITSELF was sitting between Martin Williams' THE JAZZ TRADITION and John Litweiler's THE FREEDOM PRINCIPLE: JAZZ AFTER 1958. I hope you're OK with that kind of shelf company.

[jeffcrom]

The Rhino set omits the most important track from "The New Tristano," "C Minor Complex."

Is that track available anywhere except the Mosaic box?

It's also on Atlantic Jazz Keyboards, which can be had for cheap these days. I bought that compilation just to get "C Minor Complex" before the Mosaic set came out.

[Larry Kart]

Excellent set, excellent notes.

Hey Larry, the other day I went to pull a book from my shelves at home and noticed that (by the logic of my own internal ordering system) JAZZ IN SEARCH OF ITSELF was sitting between Martin Williams' THE JAZZ TRADITION and John Litweiler's THE FREEDOM PRINCIPLE: JAZZ AFTER 1958. I hope you're OK with that kind of shelf company.

You bet.

[colinmce]

I very much like Tristano's New York Improvisations a trio set with Peter Ind and a drummer whose name escapes me.

NYI was the title when it was released on an Elektra LP in the 70s. It's out in a different form now, but I don't recall the most recent title.

[ghost of miles]

I very much like Tristano's New York Improvisations a trio set with Peter Ind and a drummer whose name escapes me.

NYI was the title when it was released on an Elektra LP in the 70s. It's out in a different form now, but I don't recall the most recent title.

Manhattan Studio?

[colinmce]

Yes.

[J.A.W.]

I very much like Tristano's New York Improvisations a trio set with Peter Ind and a drummer whose name escapes me.

The drummer was Tom Weyburn.

[J.A.W.]

I very much like Tristano's New York Improvisations a trio set with Peter Ind and a drummer whose name escapes me.

NYI was the title when it was released on an Elektra LP in the 70s. It's out in a different form now, but I don't recall the most recent title.

Manhattan Studio?

Now also OOP.

[Quasimado]

I very much like Tristano's New York Improvisations a trio set with Peter Ind and a drummer whose name escapes me.

NYI was the title when it was released on an Elektra LP in the 70s. It's out in a different form now, but I don't recall the most recent title.

Manhattan Studio?

Now also OOP.

It's available locally in the US on Jazz Records (JR11CD), the label started by LT himself and continued by his

family. It has a powerful and relatively unknown catalogue.

http://www.jazzrecordsinc.com/2catalog.html

Q

[J.A.W.]

I very much like Tristano's New York Improvisations a trio set with Peter Ind and a drummer whose name escapes me.

NYI was the title when it was released on an Elektra LP in the 70s. It's out in a different form now, but I don't recall the most recent title.

Manhattan Studio?

Now also OOP.

It's available locally in the US on Jazz Records (JR11CD), the label started by LT himself and continued by his

family. It has a powerful and relatively unknown catalogue.

http://www.jazzrecordsinc.com/2catalog.html

Q

Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, they don't sell directly and the Tristano CD is not currently available from Cadence, the store they link to.

Edited February 13, 2010 by J.A.W.

[J.A.W.]

I very much like Tristano's New York Improvisations a trio set with Peter Ind and a drummer whose name escapes me.

NYI was the title when it was released on an Elektra LP in the 70s. It's out in a different form now, but I don't recall the most recent title.

Manhattan Studio?

The LP seems to be available, with its original title but on a different label.

Edited February 13, 2010 by J.A.W.

[Quasimado]

I very much like Tristano's New York Improvisations a trio set with Peter Ind and a drummer whose name escapes me.

NYI was the title when it was released on an Elektra LP in the 70s. It's out in a different form now, but I don't recall the most recent title.

Manhattan Studio?

Now also OOP.

It's available locally in the US on Jazz Records (JR11CD), the label started by LT himself and continued by his

family. It has a powerful and relatively unknown catalogue.

http://www.jazzrecordsinc.com/2catalog.html

Q

Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, they don't sell directly and the Tristano CD is not currently available from Cadence, the store they link to.

It's listed at Cadence ...I just saw it, and if it's listed, it should be available (or Cadence isn't what it used to be ... )

Click on North Country Distribution (Cadence) through the Jazz Records *Order Page*, enter *Lennie Tristano* where it says "Click here for our main search and order pages". Most of the Tristano on the Jazz Records label is there, including JR11.

Q

[J.A.W.]

I very much like Tristano's New York Improvisations a trio set with Peter Ind and a drummer whose name escapes me.

NYI was the title when it was released on an Elektra LP in the 70s. It's out in a different form now, but I don't recall the most recent title.

Manhattan Studio?

Now also OOP.

It's available locally in the US on Jazz Records (JR11CD), the label started by LT himself and continued by his

family. It has a powerful and relatively unknown catalogue.

http://www.jazzrecordsinc.com/2catalog.html

Q

Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, they don't sell directly and the Tristano CD is not currently available from Cadence, the store they link to.

It's listed at Cadence ...I just saw it, and if it's listed, it should be available (or Cadence isn't what it used to be ... )

Click on North Country Distribution (Cadence) through the Jazz Records *Order Page*, enter *Lennie Tristano* where it says "Click here for our main search and order pages". Most of the Tristano on the Jazz Records label is there, including JR11.

Q

I did not say that it isn't listed at Cadence; it is and if you had looked carefully, you would have seen that it's marked "temporarily out of stock", which means that it's "not currently available from Cadence" as I posted above.

Edited February 13, 2010 by J.A.W.

[Quasimado]

I very much like Tristano's New York Improvisations a trio set with Peter Ind and a drummer whose name escapes me.

NYI was the title when it was released on an Elektra LP in the 70s. It's out in a different form now, but I don't recall the most recent title.

Manhattan Studio?

Now also OOP.

It's available locally in the US on Jazz Records (JR11CD), the label started by LT himself and continued by his

family. It has a powerful and relatively unknown catalogue.

http://www.jazzrecordsinc.com/2catalog.html

Q

Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, they don't sell directly and the Tristano CD is not currently available from Cadence, the store they link to.

It's listed at Cadence ...I just saw it, and if it's listed, it should be available (or Cadence isn't what it used to be ... )

Click on North Country Distribution (Cadence) through the Jazz Records *Order Page*, enter *Lennie Tristano* where it says "Click here for our main search and order pages". Most of the Tristano on the Jazz Records label is there, including JR11.

Q

I did not say that it isn't listed at Cadence; it is and if you had looked carefully, you would have seen that it's marked "temporarily out of stock", which means that it's "not currently available from Cadence" as I posted above.

Whoops...apologies. You could mail Jazz Records directly. Carol Tristano runs it, or did. She's pretty helpful.

Q