New York Art Quartet

[Head Man]

No turntable.

Always a problem when playing vinyl.

[clifford_thornton]

Yeah, well, that is an entirely different story.

[Bol]

I've got one. I feel good about it.

Let's just compare this with the ICP set. You get over fifty CDs of music including some clinkers, a couple of CDs that were duplicated and one that was supposed to be included and is missing. Then there are the badly done needle-drops. The book has cool pictures but there is no essay. It's shockingly diffuse and hard to handle as a "piece." I love the ICP and their music but am disappointed in how this set was executed. It should have been split into three or four smaller-scale sets.

The NYAQ set is cheaper by a little, has an incredible hardbound book with deep essays and reproductions of archival material. It's housed in a sturdy wooden box and has five LPs that are pressed wonderfully and exacting audio restoration has been done (the WBAI set is a little crumbly but manageable). It's focused and clear, and really gives one a picture of one ensemble at an extraordinarily fertile point in the music's history. They also pressed nearly 700 copies so it'll be around while you decide. The Cecil is still in print, too, fwiw.

I'm very jealous. I didn't get the ICP box either. I have about a dozen ICP recordings and that is enough for me, I think. When you get a chance, tell us a little about the quality of the music on these 5 LP's.

[clifford_thornton]

I shall. Also, a real review will be running in the Spring issue of Point of Departure.

ICP box review will - I believe - be in an issue of the NYC Jazz Record later this spring.

[CraigP]

Welcome to the new world of boutique reissue releases. Yowza!

I got an email from DMG about a few copies of a Paul Dunmall/FMR 49 CD + 1 DVD set!!!

[clifford_thornton]

Oof. I mean, wow!

[king ubu]

Welcome to the new world of boutique reissue releases. Yowza!

I got an email from DMG about a few copies of a Paul Dunmall/FMR 49 CD + 1 DVD set!!!

Well, let's hope the per-disc-price is somewhat below the NYAQ set ...

[alankin]

Dunmall is under $4 per disc.

[Head Man]

Dunmall is under $4 per disc.

There's A LOT of discs though!

[CraigP]

I'm not enough of a Dunmall fan to pull the trigger on this one. And don't get me started about the bagpipes!

[Blue Train]

Haven't gotten around to listening to the ICP box yet. Will be ordering the Dunmall, but having it shipped somewhere in the states. The prices outside the states have gotten insane. I just read they're also going to stop delivering mail on Saturdays.

[Stefan Wood]

In August, unless Congress intervenes.

The airmail shipping charges just went up 40%, if one uses USPS.

Ordered the Dunmall as well.

Edited February 6, 2013 by Stefan Wood

[Stefan Wood]

Got the Dunmall box yesterday; wow, what a package! A hefty book and a thick stack of discs in a binder, all wrapped in a fold open box with slipcase. Will dive into it soon and give some feedback.

[clifford_thornton]

Back on topic for the NYAQ, here is what I've gleaned from some communication with the label:

According to our philosophy, this music should be able to be heard in the 22d century, which means physical materials that won't fall apart. And our belief in the significance of the music is such that we ought to use images that one wants to see, a large format so one can actually see them and read the text, and restore sound to the nth degree of perfection.

We're not likely to make a digital edition of our first or second projects, but we'll of course support any effort in that direction after the LP set sells out that benefits all the artists appropriately. That's really the other pragmatic consideration: There's no way we could have asked CD-prices for a CD-release of the project and still had the dough--both for these production values and to pay all the players [handsomely].

Edited February 17, 2013 by clifford_thornton

[Chuck Nessa]

LOL!

[king ubu]

Yep, John Tchicai must get lots of money from this release

[romualdo]

sent them an email two weeks ago & enquired re shipping costs to Australia (for the NYA4 box) - no reply as of yet

[Blue Train]

sent them an email two weeks ago & enquired re shipping costs to Australia (for the NYA4 box) - no reply as of yet

According to the site it's $68.50 to Australia. Just like it is to the U.K. Just click like your buying it and than click ship outside the U.S. and scroll down to the destination. Interestingly, if we were in Afghanistan, or Iraq and even Iran it would be $59.75. You would think it would be a bit more expensive to get them there than the UK, or Australia.

Edited February 18, 2013 by Blue Train

[clifford_thornton]

Yep, John Tchicai must get lots of money from this release

His estate and/or heirs...

[clifford_thornton]

If you want to at least read about the NYAQ set, you can do so fairly in depth here:

Point of Departure

[J.A.W.]

No turntable.

Always a problem when playing vinyl.

[Stefan Wood]

If you want to at least read about the NYAQ set, you can do so fairly in depth here:

Point of Departure

Well done.

[Steve Reynolds]

If you want to at least read about the NYAQ set, you can do so fairly in depth here:

Point of Departure

Well done.

almost made me want to buy a turntable - nice well written article

but the descriptions of Milford's drumming doesn't completely jibe with my experiences in listening to him live or on record - although I have only seen him live twice - one time was with William Parker and Peter Brotzmann and there was a helluva groove that night....

[clifford_thornton]

Thanks; I think groove can/does enter into Milford's music, but the way he works in this band is/was more subversive. The music can certainly be heard and read a number of ways, too!