Mal Waldron

[Big Beat Steve]

48 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said:

I have never seen the film, but it appears to be right up my alley.  I assume the LP was a re-record, as was common at the time?

Has anyone seen the film?  Is it any good?

 

Take a peek ...

 

 

[Teasing the Korean]

3 hours ago, Big Beat Steve said:

Take a peek ...

Thank you, my Big Beatster!  I shall!

[Rabshakeh]

I don’t know Waldron’s work that well, but I’m enjoying the recommendations above, including the numbered Prestiges and The Call, which is fantastic.
 

I would be interested in knowing with which Lacy duet album people would recommend starting?

[Pim]

The duets with Lacy are magical. Hard to name a favorite because they are all great. I will give it a try.

This is probably the Holy Grail, the Magnum Opus. The music is incredible. But of course 4 cd's are a lot to start with. 

 

I really love this release. Great sound and it contains the true Waldron/Lacy classics like Epistrophy, Snake Out and Round Midnight. The interaction is stunning. This album is a bit Monkish. If you prefer the Strayhorn/Ellington stuff:

Equally beautiful and probably the most accessible. 

BTW: the latest Jazzwerkstatt release Live In Berlin is also recommended. 

[clifford_thornton]

I came on just to say that -- Sempre Amore might be the easiest to find but the Hat Hut set is absolutely shattering.

And don't snooze on the America and Victor LPs if you run into them... great music.

[Pim]

22 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said:

I came on just to say that -- Sempre Amore might be the easiest to find but the Hat Hut set is absolutely shattering.

And don't snooze on the America and Victor LPs if you run into them... great music.

Haha if we go that way I'd say: don't skip these too either

But these are no duets of course....

[clifford_thornton]

True, add Hard Talk to the pile as well. I need to revisit Moods as it's been forever!

[Rabshakeh]

Thanks! 

[Rabshakeh]

On 14/05/2020 at 4:32 PM, Pim said:

The duets with Lacy are magical. Hard to name a favorite because they are all great. I will give it a try.

 

Still listening to these. They’re absolutely fantastic, save that the Live at Dreher set is a bit too short.
 

Thanks for the recommendations.
 

On to the rest....

[Justin V]

On 5/14/2020 at 11:32 AM, Pim said:

The duets with Lacy are magical. Hard to name a favorite because they are all great. I will give it a try.

This is probably the Holy Grail, the Magnum Opus. The music is incredible. But of course 4 cd's are a lot to start with. 

 

I really love this release. Great sound and it contains the true Waldron/Lacy classics like Epistrophy, Snake Out and Round Midnight. The interaction is stunning. This album is a bit Monkish. If you prefer the Strayhorn/Ellington stuff:

Equally beautiful and probably the most accessible. 

BTW: the latest Jazzwerkstatt release Live In Berlin is also recommended. 

I only have Hot House.  I found it used a few years ago and discovered that the inside of the booklet was signed by Lacy. 

[optatio]

15 minutes ago, Justin V said:

I only have Hot House.  I found it used a few years ago and discovered that the inside of the booklet was signed by Lacy. 

This is also signed  ...

[soulpope]

47 minutes ago, optatio said:

This is also signed  ...

....

[Pim]

17 hours ago, Justin V said:

I only have Hot House.  I found it used a few years ago and discovered that the inside of the booklet was signed by Lacy. 

That’s nice! I’ve got a copy of Waldron’s What it Is signed by Waldron  

if you like Hot House you should definitely give the other duet albums a try. They are strong without exception. 

[optatio]

 

45 minutes ago, Pim said:

... the other duet albums ... are strong without exception. 

My treasure ...

 

[Pim]

2 hours ago, optatio said:

 

My treasure ...

 

Nice one!

[Pim]

This one arrived today. And.... again it's beautiful. Very, very accesible too. 

 

Now listen from minute 4:00 how they let Snake Out fade into the beautiful Free for C.T. (Cecil Taylor). This is why I like these guys. The chemistry is so intense, the space they both take is huge. I love it.

[Rabshakeh]

I'm thinking of getting one of the LPs that make up Live At Dreher.

Does anyone know of any resource that shows how the different tracks compare to the CD release?

It is difficult to tell given that the CD and the underlying LPs each contain so many versions of the same tune.

[JSngry]

 

[Pim]

Yeah I did it! With buying Embryo's For Eva and Nada Jovic's Take Me In Your Arms I completed my project: I now own every single album by Waldron from 1963 till his death as a leader, co-leader and a sideman!

Time to move on now 

[mjazzg]

Congratulations! How many albums is that?

All you have to do next is listen to them all, in chronological order of course 

[Rabshakeh]

21 minutes ago, Pim said:

Time to move on now 

What comes next? 

[Pim]

3 hours ago, mjazzg said:

Congratulations! How many albums is that?

All you have to do next is listen to them all, in chronological order of course 

It's a 148 if I am not miscounting  And of course I also own his works as a leader and some sideman work before 1963. 

Plan is, when I've got a little more time (like that time ever comes), to start a blog in his honor reviewing all his works in chronological order. Some random conclusions:

- The duets with David Murray, Archie Shepp and of course Steve Lacy are all spectacular. But the duets with Jim Pepper and Nicolas Simion are also great! Simion really surprised me.

- Most of the records on Tutu are highly recommended. 

- For me his greatest era was between 1969 and 1979. The stuff he produced for Enja, Victor, JAPO, Freedom and Trio are insanely good.

- The duets with most singers are to be avoided, especially the Italian and Japanese singers. Only the duet with Kimiko Kasai is pretty good. The duets with Sumiko Yoseyama are.... terrible to be honest. The duets with Jeanne Lee on the other hand are great.

- Between the more rare discs, one of the best finds was his Live at Middelheim Jazz Festival record. It's a Japanese legit CD-R with some stunning live music with Lacy, Manfred Schoof, Isla Eckinger and Makaya Nthsoko.

3 hours ago, Rabshakeh said:

What comes next? 

I thinks it's time to end my compulsive mania now it's still possible. Enough music in the wantlist but no artists I want to complete per se. Maybe Billy Harper... But that should be easier than Mal

 

 

[Pim]

So I used jazzdisco and Discogs as sources to complete my Waldron collection. I am pretty sure I own everything after 1963. Any Waldron experts around here who could double check? Perhaps I am missing something.

As a leader on cd:

As a leader on vinyl

 

As co-leader:

 

As a sideman:

Thanks for bothering and before you ask: yes I also own all his records as a leader before 1963. But not all his appereances as a sideman.

[soulpope]

2 hours ago, Pim said:

So I used jazzdisco and Discogs as sources to complete my Waldron collection. I am pretty sure I own everything after 1963. Any Waldron experts around here who could double check? Perhaps I am missing something.

As a leader on cd:

As a leader on vinyl

 

As co-leader:

 

As a sideman:

Thanks for bothering and before you ask: yes I also own all his records as a leader before 1963. But not all his appereances as a sideman.

Probably due to my weary eyes, but missingt :

"Breaking New Ground" (Baystate)

Lacy/Waldron "Live At Dreher Paris 1981" (hatOLOGY)

[GA Russell]

One of my first jazz albums was Just Wailin' with Mal Waldron, Herbie Mann, Charlie Rouse and Kenny Burrell on (Prestige) New Jazz.

https://www.amazon.com/Just-Wailin-Herbie-Mann/dp/B000000Z2L/

PS - That's quite a collection you've got, Soulpope!

Edited October 8, 2020 by GA Russell