DaxWax Posted January 22, 2010 Report Posted January 22, 2010 Hi there, I've recently started analysing 'All Blues' by Miles Davis and discovered that I absolutely love Jazz - especially bepop (well the stuff that was 'answered' back to swing music) and Dixieland jazz; So far we've just been going through it from start to finnish, so I've bee listening to: Jelly Roll Morton/Scott Joplin Louis Armstrong Glen Miller Duke Ellington Charlie Parker Miles David John Coltrane Dave Brubeck and Herbie Hancock - I know these are pretty much the one that everyone have heard of! So I was wondering if you coudl recommend some 'unheard of' or just slightly different to the ones everyone already know? Thanks - I'm new here so I'm sorry if I've posted in the wrong section! Quote
Peter Friedman Posted January 22, 2010 Report Posted January 22, 2010 There are so many the list could be extremely long. Here's a few to get you started. Sonny Rollins -on Prestige or Blue Note Clifford Brown Thelonious monk Zoot Sims Stan Getz Sonny Stitt Count Basie Lester Young Horace Silver Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted January 22, 2010 Report Posted January 22, 2010 Red Allen If you really listen he will open up a bunch of stuff. Quote
Shrdlu Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) Hey, Dax! Welcome to the board. Love the bunny! You are off to a good start, with those names. It will take years to get to know all about jazz. You have a lot of great listening ahead. It's not too hard to list the real innovators of jazz, but you probably won't want to restrict your listening to just them. The very top innovators include Louis Armstrong, Lester Young, Charlie Parker, Miles Davis, John Coltrane. For me, Parker is the finest improviser ever. Also, I believe that jazz ceased to develop in about 1967. Many great players continued to play it, and new players came along, playing the music of their predecessors, but what you might call pure jazz came to an end there, as far as development goes. After that, rock and fusion etc took over. I like quite a lot of that, especially Weather Report and Chick Corea, but it's not straight-ahead jazz. But, so what, music is music. What's in a name? All that matters is whether it sounds good to you, or any other listener. Enjoy. Edited January 23, 2010 by Shrdlu Quote
Brad Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 Don't forget Dizzy or Hawk, the list could go on forever. Quote
Shrdlu Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 Notable additions. Though I've never felt that Diz was an essential part of bebop. Bird was the real innovator there. Diz was important as a superb soloist, and he did play a major part in the blending of jazz and Latino. While on the subject of bop, I wonder why Monk was dubbed "The high priest of bebop", when he was what you might call an advanced stride piano player, as well as a major composer. The quintessential bebop pianist was Bud Powell. Coleman Hawkins certainly "invented" the tenor saxophone, taking it from a kinda novelty instrument status to a position of major importance. Plus, he just sounded great and lasted for years. Quote
sidewinder Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 Hi there, I've recently started analysing 'All Blues' by Miles Davis and discovered that I absolutely love Jazz - especially bepop (well the stuff that was 'answered' back to swing music) and Dixieland jazz; The obvious next choices I would suggest would be: Bill Evans Riverside and Verve Recordings Anything by Cannonball Adderley (check out the current feature on BBC Radio 4 by Ken Clarke via I-Player) Herbie Hancock and Wayne Shorter on Blue Note Oliver Nelson Prestige, Impulse and Verve recordings Gil Evans George Russell (especially the Riversides) and another for Roland Kirk ! Quote
DaxWax Posted January 23, 2010 Author Report Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) This board is more active than I thought! Thanks so much for the names guys, I'll give all of them a listen Keep 'em coming if you have anymore you think I should listen to! I don't want to multiquote all of you because there are so many x Edited January 23, 2010 by DaxWax Quote
sidewinder Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 This board is more active than I thought! It's just an illusion. Rigor-mortis has already set in for most of us.. Quote
DaxWax Posted January 23, 2010 Author Report Posted January 23, 2010 This board is more active than I thought! It's just an illusion. Rigor-mortis has already set in for most of us.. Rigor-mortis? Quote
sidewinder Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 Track 5 on this one: and let me add Lee Morgan to the list.. Quote
DaxWax Posted January 23, 2010 Author Report Posted January 23, 2010 Track 5 on this one: and let me add Lee Morgan to the list.. Listening to it now I've made a playlist of every single artist you guys have given me so far on Spotify Cheers! Quote
The Rep Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 Hi Daxwax, Try some Cannonball Adderley, so much there! and a favourite of mine George Adams/Don Pullen Quartet. I almost envy you your voyage of discovery. Cheers The Rep. Quote
DaxWax Posted January 23, 2010 Author Report Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) Hi Daxwax, Try some Cannonball Adderley, so much there! and a favourite of mine George Adams/Don Pullen Quartet. I almost envy you your voyage of discovery. Cheers The Rep. I'm listening to a documentary about him on iPlayer right now! (BBC Radio4) I'll definitely take a listen to the artists you gave me after the documentary I wouldn't envy me, I've only liked jazz for about a day now! It's funny because as well as Jazz I love trip-pop, dumbstep, prog rock, pretty much everything! Edited January 23, 2010 by DaxWax Quote
paul secor Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 Mingus Ah Um helped get me started years ago. I imagine it could do the same for someone else today. Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 Hi Daxwax, Try some Cannonball Adderley, so much there! and a favourite of mine George Adams/Don Pullen Quartet. I almost envy you your voyage of discovery. Cheers The Rep. I'm listening to a documentary about him on iPlayer right now! (BBC Radio4) I'll definitely take a listen to the artists you gave me after the documentary I wouldn't envy me, I've only liked jazz for about a day now! It's funny because as well as Jazz I love trip-pop, dumbstep, prog rock, pretty much everything! I notice you are in London, Daxwax. Tune into 'Jazz Record Requests' on Radio 3 every Saturday - an hour of completely varied jazz from across the spectrum every week. Also on the iPlayer for a week. Just before it is an hour programme called Jazz Library that explores a different musician each week. And if you want to hear what's happening now try Jazz on 3 late on Monday night (or on the iPlayer). You'll get different advice on this; but I got my taste for jazz in the mid-70s from listening to the UK/European jazz happening then and then worked outwards and backwards. There's some marvellous jazz being made in the UK at the present (most of it based in London [i've never been myself...too far away...but The Vortex in Stoke Newington seems to have some of the most interesting if you are able to get out to the occasional concert]). Listening to jazz doesn't have to be about archaeology. You'll find things of interest in the present too; and, hopefully, in the future. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 When you find an album you like, check out the sidemen on the date and explore other things that they did. Much easier to research in the digital era than it used to be. Quote
DaxWax Posted January 23, 2010 Author Report Posted January 23, 2010 Mingus Ah Um helped get me started years ago. I imagine it could do the same for someone else today. Listening to the album now, cheers for that I notice you are in London, Daxwax. Tune into 'Jazz Record Requests' on Radio 3 every Saturday - an hour of completely varied jazz from across the spectrum every week. Also on the iPlayer for a week. Just before it is an hour programme called Jazz Library that explores a different musician each week. And if you want to hear what's happening now try Jazz on 3 late on Monday night (or on the iPlayer). You'll get different advice on this; but I got my taste for jazz in the mid-70s from listening to the UK/European jazz happening then and then worked outwards and backwards. There's some marvellous jazz being made in the UK at the present (most of it based in London [i've never been myself...too far away...but The Vortex in Stoke Newington seems to have some of the most interesting if you are able to get out to the occasional concert]). Listening to jazz doesn't have to be about archaeology. You'll find things of interest in the present too; and, hopefully, in the future. Fab I'll listen to that then! Yeah I'm also interest in present Jazz, what artists would you recommend? I know all the 'greatest' so to say jazz muscicians have died but are there any up and coming ones that you like? Jazz isn't a 'popular' genre of music anymore, more of an art, so are there bebop jazz artists around? Sorry if I don't know zilch about jazz When you find an album you like, check out the sidemen on the date and explore other things that they did. Much easier to research in the digital era than it used to be. The Sidemen? I'll give them a listen then Quote
Shrdlu Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 Hey guys, slow down, lol. Rome wasn't built in a day. Some of us have been at it for decades. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) No, I mean the sidemen on any particular album you like, i.e. the other players. I wasn't referring to a group called the Sidemen. Edited January 23, 2010 by Teasing the Korean Quote
DaxWax Posted January 23, 2010 Author Report Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) No, I mean the sidemen on any particular album you like, i.e. the other players. I wasn't referring to a group called the Sidemen. Ooh Hey guys, slow down, lol. Rome wasn't built in a day. Some of us have been at it for decades. I'm just getting a variety of artists Edited January 23, 2010 by DaxWax Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 Fab I'll listen to that then! Yeah I'm also interest in present Jazz, what artists would you recommend? I know all the 'greatest' so to say jazz muscicians have died but are there any up and coming ones that you like? Jazz isn't a 'popular' genre of music anymore, more of an art, so are there bebop jazz artists around? Sorry if I don't know zilch about jazz There are literally hundreds of currently active UK musicians playing in a wide range of styles. Groups like Polar Bear, Acoustic Ladyland, Led Bib, Outhouse play in styles that overlap into indie-rock or grunge/punk-like areas. As Shrdlu says, there's so much you won't take it all in at once (or ever). Best to use the radio or Spotify (as you mention) and see what suits you. See if your local library carries jazz CDs (that's where I did my early exploring). There's a UK jazz magazine - Jazzwise - that has a current/European focus but still celebrates the history and tracks US developments. Worth a read. http://www.jazzwisemagazine.com/ Quote
JSngry Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 No, I mean the sidemen on any particular album you like, i.e. the other players. I wasn't referring to a group called the Sidemen. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:wvfixqerldfe Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted January 23, 2010 Report Posted January 23, 2010 No, I mean the sidemen on any particular album you like, i.e. the other players. I wasn't referring to a group called the Sidemen. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:wvfixqerldfe Are they a Music MInus One tribute band? Quote
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