JSngry Posted March 16, 2015 Report Posted March 16, 2015 Thanks, good to know, and I have no idea who this guy is/was. Pretty interesting. I'm pretty heavily into soundtracks circa mid-1950s to mid/late 1970s, and I've never encountered his name anyplace except for this one theme. What odd careers that so many musicians have. Here is a guy who is utterly unknown in the U.S., yet everyone remembers that one piece of music from the Twilight Zone. Looks like he was primarily a CBS staff writer? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0308350/ and this, at a level of detail (and a visual layout) that is more than I care to deal with: http://www.bernardherrmann.org/legacy/site/articles/misc/havegunwilltravel001/ Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted March 16, 2015 Author Report Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) Thanks! Here is a 12-Tone composition by Tom Dissevelt. It was later hacked up and formed the basis for a musique concrete piece titled "Intersection" in Europe and "Twilight Ozone" in the U.S. The latter was part of the famous Sonic Vibrations of Kid Baltan and Tom Dissevelt" LP. Edited March 16, 2015 by Teasing the Korean Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted May 3, 2018 Author Report Posted May 3, 2018 Bumping this thread. Franz Waxman's Crime in the Streets, a definitive example of Twilight Zone jazz, is on sale at Varese for only five bucks: https://www.varesesarabande.com/collections/on-sale-1/products/crime-in-the-streets  Quote
sgcim Posted May 3, 2018 Report Posted May 3, 2018 One of the composers i studied with in college was a former jazz saxophonist and clarinet player who would incorporate some TZ jazz into his compositions. In his most famous piece, 'String Quartet in Two Movements' he has a section about two minutes into it where the cello starts walking like a bass, and then the 1st violin wails a solo, while the viola and 2nd violin lay down a mellow comp. Â Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted May 4, 2018 Author Report Posted May 4, 2018 4 hours ago, sgcim said: One of the composers i studied with in college was a former jazz saxophonist and clarinet player who would incorporate some TZ jazz into his compositions. In his most famous piece, 'String Quartet in Two Movements' he has a section about two minutes into it where the cello starts walking like a bass, and then the 1st violin wails a solo, while the viola and 2nd violin lay down a mellow comp. Very cool! Â Thanks for sharing! Â Had he still maintained an interest in jazz while you were studying with him? Quote
sgcim Posted May 4, 2018 Report Posted May 4, 2018 19 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: Very cool!  Thanks for sharing!  Had he still maintained an interest in jazz while you were studying with him? By the time I had him as a teacher in a harmony class, he seemed pretty burnt out on everything. He never wrote another piece of music after that period that he wrote the String Quartet. I don't like the second movement of that quartet. It sounds like Webern on 'ludes... He wrote another piece for clarinet and piano that he described as featuring virtuoso passages for the clarinet of the type that a bebop player would play in a dance band combo. I can't find it on you tube. Quote
mjazzg Posted May 5, 2018 Report Posted May 5, 2018 On 03/05/2018 at 3:38 PM, Teasing the Korean said: Bumping this thread. Franz Waxman's Crime in the Streets, a definitive example of Twilight Zone jazz, is on sale at Varese for only five bucks: https://www.varesesarabande.com/collections/on-sale-1/products/crime-in-the-streets  Really enjoyed listening to this, thanks. I need to read the rest of the thread now Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted May 5, 2018 Author Report Posted May 5, 2018 2 hours ago, mjazzg said: Really enjoyed listening to this, thanks. I need to read the rest of the thread now You are welcome. Â I love this genre. Â Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted May 8, 2018 Report Posted May 8, 2018 never seen it but i do have the chico hamilton decca sountrk from about the same period, but is this one more like the leith stevens cd i have i think. also if he likes this would he love SIHH? you prob already know about it (satan in high heels) Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Posted May 17, 2018 On May 8, 2018 at 1:41 AM, chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez said: Â you prob already know about it (satan in high heels) Yes, it is a amazing, although I would not quite put it in the category I'm describing here. Â The title tune does have that fast-paced nervous quality, but overall, the album is more in a general crime/private eye bag. Quote
Joe Posted May 18, 2018 Report Posted May 18, 2018 Surprising to me that we've not yet mentioned Joel Forrester's work, with and without The Microscopic Septet. Some of the reference points are pre-bop, but if you're looking for something equal parts Raymond Scott and Thelonious Monk... Â Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted August 29, 2019 Author Report Posted August 29, 2019 Check out this impossibly rare 1953 10" album by Larry Elgart on Brunswick. Â It sounds nothing like anything by an Elgart that I have ever heard! Â The album tanked, which led Larry into a more commercial direction. Â Completely Twilight Zone jazz: Â Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted February 1, 2020 Author Report Posted February 1, 2020 Duane Tatro, Jazz for Moderns. Â Does anyone have this on either LP or CD? Â Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted February 1, 2020 Report Posted February 1, 2020 53 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said: Duane Tatro, Jazz for Moderns. Â Does anyone have this on either LP or CD? Â I have the cd. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted February 1, 2020 Author Report Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Chuck Nessa said: I have the cd. It is out of print and pricey! Quote
jlhoots Posted February 1, 2020 Report Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Chuck Nessa said: I have the cd. So do I. Quote
sidewinder Posted February 1, 2020 Report Posted February 1, 2020 I’ve got it on a Contemporary mono LP. Quote
thirdtry Posted February 1, 2020 Report Posted February 1, 2020 I was pretty sure I had the Tatro disc and went a bit crazy here trying to find it until I realized that album is included on the Lennie Niehaus Complete 50s Recordings CD set. Â Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted February 1, 2020 Author Report Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, thirdtry said: I was pretty sure I had the Tatro disc and went a bit crazy here trying to find it until I realized that album is included on the Lennie Niehaus Complete 50s Recordings CD set. Â Does it include the original cover art? I am now cleaning the house and listening to Duane Tatro's music from the Quinn Martin TV series The Invaders. Â There is now a 2-CD set. Â Most of the music is either by Tatro or Thee Great Dominic Frontiere. Edited February 1, 2020 by Teasing the Korean Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted February 2, 2020 Report Posted February 2, 2020 Â 18 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: Duane Tatro, Jazz for Moderns. Â Does anyone have this on either LP or CD? Â I have an original pressing of the LP - bought in decent condition for a decent price on eBay long ago. Must say I initially bought I mainly for the cover art, though it is intriguing to listen to. It is rather "far out"' for its time. And though I am no expert on the genre at all I do not find it "twilight zone"-like. FWIW, the DB review (2 1/2 stars) was rather lukewarm (which was warmer than the reviewer found the music to be). Quote
Dave James Posted February 3, 2020 Report Posted February 3, 2020 Me too. Â I haven't listened to it for years. If I'm recalling it correctly, 2 1/2 stars is about right. Â I'll have to locate it in the stacks and give it a spin. Quote
jazzcorner Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 On 28.12.2009 at 5:59 PM, Teasing the Korean said: Some of the best examples of this music show up in late-1950s/early 1960s film and TV scores, often by "classical"-based composers with limited jazz experience. I am not certain if this collection meets your conditions: All here in collection  Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted February 5, 2020 Author Report Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, jazzcorner said: I am not certain if this collection meets your conditions:...All here in collection Hi Jazzcorner, Thanks for sharing.  I have most of the albums you listed. The Rhino Crime Jazz collections are excellent.  Off the top of the my head, the tunes that best encapsulate the sound I'm seeking would be Kenyon Hopkins' "Contract with Depravity," Leith Stevens' "Toss Me a Scalpel," and Henry Mancini's "The Boss" (incorrectly credited to the conductor on the CD). I don't think there is anything on the Ultra Lounge collection in this style. I have the two Pete Rugolo albums on LP.  I will have to revisit these.  The main Pete Rugolo tune that I think has the Twilight Zone jazz sound is the track "For Hi-Fi Bugs," later retitled "Stereo Space Man." I don't have the other crime scene collection; I will seek it out.  Page 2 of this thread, near the bottom, includes some Jerry Goldsmith Twilight Zone scores that I think best encapsulate the sound I'm seeking. Edited February 6, 2020 by Teasing the Korean Quote
jazzcorner Posted February 6, 2020 Report Posted February 6, 2020 (edited)  13 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: I don't think there is anything on the Ultra Lounge collection in this style. Well to spin the fathom a bit further - topic interests me - here is the content of the "Ultra Lounge" CD FYI  I have thought about the theme of the topic. Probably we can find more in some sound tracks & compilations as these here: a) Lalo Schifrin has his own style of composing and arranging  b) Pete Rugolo (know him mostly from my Kenton recordings) but he likes to experiment too: .... and this one   Edited February 6, 2020 by jazzcorner typos Quote
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