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With all due respect, I fail to see the justification for prying into a man's personal affairs because of a marketing image and on any level. So he isn't squeaky clean. He's not perfect. Now what? Do we allow ourselves to believe he should be badgered for all time memorial because of what his sponsors foisted upon us via the media?

Seriously, who of us know what kind of a man Tiger Woods really is anyway? Do we base it upon the cynical say-so of a tabloid kiss-and-tell media? Babe Ruth was a womanizer and did little to disguise that fact. Yet we idolize that cigar smoking drunken lout over Barry Bonds because of a drug he is alleged to have taken.

It just seems to me that we place far too much significance upon the private and personal foibles of Tiger Woods all the while dismissing the same if not worse of other athletes....and with selective reasoning.

I have a problem with that, Larry.

Did I say that he should be "badgered for time immemorial"? No -- I said that now "we can see [some dramatic difference between one side of the actual Tiger Woods and the widely marketed image of Woods as a human paragon as well as a great athlete], and there's ... static. How much there should be, I don't know because I myself don't much care, but 'leave the man alone' hardly seems fitting."

As for "what his sponsors foisted upon us," this was foisted upon Woods, too?

No, but you did equate Tiger Woods' media personality with the justification to pry into his personal affairs.

My point is the the PR wiz who marketed Tiger Woods and his image to the public is no more the epitome of who he really is any more than owning a set of golf clubs makes you a pro golfer.

Tiger wanted to make money through that marketed image and why that is a problem seriously escapes me. So if you need to find fault with somebody, then find fault with the PR marketing men.

Again, he is a golfer, not your minister.

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The fact that he is using his late father in a plea for sympathy in order to try to rehabilitate his image for commercial gain is a just a bit creepy. If this was a public service ad of some kind, then maybe it might work. But it's a Nike ad, so it doesn't.

On the other hand, this is probably one of a series of ads they will roll out over the summer, culminating in an ad with footage of Tiger and his mom in a tearful embrace, maybe his children running up to surround them, rose pedals falling from the sky -- and if Nike can swing it, Elin running across an open field and back into the arms of Tiger. For ever and ever. Amen. Cha-ching.

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Could they have gotten Tiger to seem any more like Earl...all puffy, old and worn out? Very unflattering, although I'm sure the look was created very deliberately. I'd love to have been a fly on the wall when they were discussing how they would shoot this "commercial". I agree with Dan. A total misfire.

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I thought it was a great ad. Very touching and most appropriate given the current media lynch mob mentality.

What I find "appalling" is how anyone has the nerve to pass judgement on a man when their own garbage mouth and piss-poor dealings with the posters on this very BBS have made him a anger management legend.

More here than meets the eye, Folks....

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I thought it was a great ad. Very touching and most appropriate given the current media lynch mob mentality.

What I find "appalling" is how anyone has the nerve to pass judgement on a man when their own garbage mouth and piss-poor dealings with the posters on this very BBS have made him a anger management legend.

More here than meets the eye, Folks....

That is one helluva a non sequitur. What the fuck does one have to do with the other? I'm not allowed to express my opinion?

Who passed judgment on the man? I passed judgment on the advertisement. An advertisement that has been very nearly unanimously panned as grotesque (for using his dead pappy) and hypocritical (because he probably learned about serial adultery from pappy in the first place).

"Great" "touching" and "appropriate" because of some "lynch mob mentality"?

You do understand that this is all about Nike moving on to selling hats, shirts and all the other crap, right?

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I thought it was an appalling low brow ad, kind of in line with Chris Albertson's commentary on the low depths of American culture. This one just reeks.

I've also reported the post to which Dan responded. Just a personal attack.

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I thought it was a great ad. Very touching and most appropriate given the current media lynch mob mentality.

What I find "appalling" is how anyone has the nerve to pass judgement on a man when their own garbage mouth and piss-poor dealings with the posters on this very BBS have made him a anger management legend.

More here than meets the eye, Folks....

What?

Dude is to blame for his actions and he helped fuel the media circus frenzy. The car "accident", running off to "sex addiction" rehab, the press conference "apology", etc.etc.. Oh yeah, and having sex with all those women, the text messages, the voice messages he left behind...., duh.

This dumb ad is just one more piece of the puzzle.

I'm not judging Woods for what he did, I'm judging him on how he did it.

If your going to cheat on your hot ass wife, do it with dignity, have some smarts about it, and cheat with chicks at least in the same league as her.

If for no other reason, Tiger Woods deserves every bit of shit he gets because he is a fucking idiot. His apology should have been..., "look I was a nerdy kid, if not for my golf skills and the money and fame that came with that none of this would have ever happened but we can't turn back time. Maybe I should have gotten some this shit out of my system before I got married and had kids. I'm not saying that would have prevented me from ever cheating but it may have kept me from acting like a little school boy sending creepy text messages to waitresses and strippers all over the country. I mean what the fuck was I thinking?"

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Dude is to blame for his actions and he helped fuel the media circus frenzy. The car "accident", running off to "sex addiction" rehab, the press conference "apology", etc.etc.. Oh yeah, and having sex with all those women, the text messages, the voice messages he left behind...., duh.

This dumb ad is just one more piece of the puzzle.

I'm not judging Woods for what he did, I'm judging him on how he did it.

If your going to cheat on your hot ass wife, do it with dignity, have some smarts about it, and cheat with chicks at least in the same league as her.

If for no other reason, Tiger Woods deserves every bit of shit he gets because he is a fucking idiot. His apology should have been..., "look I was a nerdy kid, if not for my golf skills and the money and fame that came with that none of this would have ever happened but we can't turn back time. Maybe I should have gotten some this shit out of my system before I got married and had kids. I'm not saying that would have prevented me from ever cheating but it may have kept me from acting like a little school boy sending creepy text messages to waitresses and strippers all over the country. I mean what the fuck was I thinking?"

Exactly!

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I hate to disagree, Guys. It was a very nice ad.

Be as cynical as you would like. The guy is still a golfer, not your minister.

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I hate to disagree, Guys. I was a very nice ad.

Be as cynical as you would like. The guy is still a golfer, not your minister.

'Minister' is probably not an example you want to use.

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I hate to disagree, Guys. I was a very nice ad.

Be as cynical as you would like. The guy is still a golfer, not your minister.

'Minister' is probably not an example you want to use.

He was definitely ministering to a lot of people rolleyes.gif

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Again, he is a golfer, not your minister.

....and a heckuva lucky one, for sure! Factor in the three incredibly lucky ricochets he had -- two out of the trees and one more off of the spectator behind the green -- and he should have left the course +1 anyway.

Brad' Posted Today, 08:19 AM

I've also reported the post to which Dan responded.

Worry not....Goodspeak FedEx'd Dan a box of Godiva after I told him I was seconds away from using his 1969 Gaylord card to scrape the mound of yellow pollen off my windshield. I hate that stuff! Poor Bill Evans 'Shelly's Manne-Hole' cd-r in the front seat is caked with it. <_<

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I hate to disagree, Guys. I was a very nice ad.

Be as cynical as you would like. The guy is still a golfer, not your minister.

'Minister' is probably not an example you want to use.

No.

I think that is exactly the example I want to use.

You are are all more than willing to trash Tiger Woods because he cheated on his wife.

What I am saying is he is a professional golfer, not the perfect husband or perfect man. Hence, not the next in line to the Pope.

Unless you have some issue with his race, it seems to me that you are overstating your disgust in favor of reality. His affairs are a personal matter, not a PGA matter.

Tiger Woods isn't a perfect person, but he deserves nothing like the personal intrusion he has edured via the tabloid inspired lynch mob media.

I further submit, that if Tiger was White you guys wouldn't even be spending time on his daliances.

Tell me I'm wrong.

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