Recordings similar to "A new perspsective" by Donald Byrd

[RiRiIII]

A friend of mine who is deep in soul and not at all in jazz, listened and liked Donald Byrd's "A new perpsective". Can you assist me in proposing similar recordings to him?

Many thanks!

Best

Alex

[Chas]

If your friend would like to hear more jazz with wordless vocalizing you might suggest these :

Donald Byrd - I'm Trying To Get Home

Freddie Roach - All That's Good

Andrew Hill - Lift Every Voice

Max Roach - It's Time

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

  Chas said:

If your friend would like to hear more jazz with wordless vocalizing you might suggest these :

Donald Byrd - I'm Trying To Get Home

Freddie Roach - All That's Good

Andrew Hill - Lift Every Voice

Max Roach - It's Time

If he's deep into Soul and not jazz, I'd say the Freddie Roach is the best bet of those (though I don't know the Max Roach album).

Another, but never issued on CD, is Jack McDuff's "Lift every voice" on JAM. Not wordless, however; the choir sings the words. Tracks include Gil Scott-Heron's "A prayer for everybody", Trane's "Naima" and Jeff Lorber's "Night love" as well as a McDuff instrumental. This one went down very well with the British Acid Jazz crowd in the eighties.

Donald Byrd's "Up with Donald Byrd" on Verve is another and, in my view, better for a Soul fan than "I'm tryin' to get home".

But don't just focus on the vocalese albums. If your friend's a Soul fan, he might go for all kinds of Soul Jazz stuff. Boogaloo Joe Jones, Lou Donaldson, Grant Green, Jimmy McGriff all might have a lot to offer him.

MG

[king ubu]

I'd rather go with another one by Roach:

And also possibly rather Andrew Hill's Grass Roots, instead of Hill's album by the same title as the Roach above?

Unless of course your friend wants to hear more w/voices albums.

Booby (Hutcherson, that is) did one of those as well:

[Chas]

  The Magnificent Goldberg said:

Donald Byrd's "Up with Donald Byrd" on Verve is another and, in my view, better for a Soul fan than "I'm tryin' to get home".

I can't agree with that ; I think a soul fan would have a greater affinity for the gospelish I'm Tryin' To Get Home , than for the AM-radio pop commercialism of Up With Donald Byrd , which is a really weak record in my opinion .

BTW , why isn't this in the Recommendations forum ?

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

  Chas said:

  The Magnificent Goldberg said:

Donald Byrd's "Up with Donald Byrd" on Verve is another and, in my view, better for a Soul fan than "I'm tryin' to get home".

I can't agree with that ; I think a soul fan would have a greater affinity for the gospelish I'm Tryin' To Get Home , than for the AM-radio pop commercialism of Up With Donald Byrd , which is a really weak record in my opinion .

Yes, it's pretty weak, but most of the material is Soul/blues stuff.

  Chas said:

BTW , why isn't this in the Recommendations forum ?

Good question. It is now. Ta.

MG

[felser]

The Hill, Roach, and Hutcherson are all very worthwhile, each in different ways. The Hutcherson is killer, with the original versions of "Hello To The Wind" and "Slow Change" featuring Eugene McDaniels. The Roach has Billy Harper and a stunning version of "Were You There When They Crucified My Lord". The Hill is probably closest in form to the Byrd New Perspective of all the albums mentioned and is really well done, as you would expect from Hill. The Byrd Up and the Roach are horrid monstrosities to my ears. I've never heard the Byrd Trying to Get Home, one of the few "classic era Blue Notes" released domestically on CD (along with "Jimmy Smith Plays Fats Waller" and the Dodo Greene album, which was, to my understanding, merely a favor to Ike Quebec) that I was not willing to spend my money on. I did later come across cheap used copies the Smith and the Greene, and they didn't change my mind or remain in my collection.

[bertrand]

I've heard Tryin' To Get Home, and I didn't care for it at all.

Bertrand.

[JSngry]

  The Magnificent Goldberg said:

  Chas said:

If your friend would like to hear more jazz with wordless vocalizing you might suggest these :

Donald Byrd - I'm Trying To Get Home

Freddie Roach - All That's Good

Andrew Hill - Lift Every Voice

Max Roach - It's Time

If he's deep into Soul and not jazz, I'd say the Freddie Roach is the best bet of those...

Word on that. And Conrad Lester is a BAAAAD man!

[JSngry]

But you know what? Capra Black, Billy Harper, Starta-East, Side Two, "Cry Of HHunger". I bet he'd get that.

Also, put me down as also not caring for Trying To Get Home.

[felser]

  JSngry said:

But you know what? Capra Black, Billy Harper, Starta-East, Side Two, "Cry Of HHunger". I bet he'd get that.

For sure. There'll be enough someday!

[sidewinder]

Not forgetting some of the 70s Duke Pearson recordings with vocal groups, included on the Duke Pearson Mosaic Select.

[felser]

  sidewinder said:

Not forgetting some of the 70s Duke Pearson recordings with vocal groups, included on the Duke Pearson Mosaic Select.

Those didn't do much for me.

[RiRiIII]

  Alexandros said:

A friend of mine who is deep in soul and not at all in jazz, listened and liked Donald Byrd's "A new perpsective". Can you assist me in proposing similar recordings to him?

Many thanks!

Best

Alex

Dear All

Many thanks for your time doing these suggestions!

Best

Alex

[jazzbo]

  felser said:

  sidewinder said:

Not forgetting some of the 70s Duke Pearson recordings with vocal groups, included on the Duke Pearson Mosaic Select.

Those didn't do much for me.

But they did do a lot for me.

But not sure how a soul fan would encounter them.