medjuck Posted November 13, 2009 Report Posted November 13, 2009 brownie said: The Lord Discography index lists 1,198 sessions for Milt Hinton, 1,098 for Ron Carter, 988 for Hank Jones. The others do not qualify (Plas Johnson 267, Bernard Purdie 321...) In his autobiography he complains that the didn't get to play jazz often enough! Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted November 13, 2009 Report Posted November 13, 2009 medjuck said: brownie said: The Lord Discography index lists 1,198 sessions for Milt Hinton, 1,098 for Ron Carter, 988 for Hank Jones. The others do not qualify (Plas Johnson 267, Bernard Purdie 321...) In his autobiography he complains that the didn't get to play jazz often enough! Well, in a fifty-something year career, that's not a lot of sessions; something like one every couple of weeks. The real measure is live gigs. MG Quote
mmilovan Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 The Magnificent Goldberg said: I think it's either Plas Johnson, Cornell Dupree or Bernard Purdie. Probably Plas. I think Purdie's 7,000 recording sessions may be an exaggeration. Plas claims over 5,000. Idris Muhammad must be up there somewhere, too. Then there are all those guys like Bernie Glow, Al Klink and Romeo Penque, who seemed to work on every record ever made in Hollywood. 'Course, they may not count as jazz musicians MG But Al Klink was capable sax solist in his own style, and sure in jazz "idiom". Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 mmilovan said: The Magnificent Goldberg said: I think it's either Plas Johnson, Cornell Dupree or Bernard Purdie. Probably Plas. I think Purdie's 7,000 recording sessions may be an exaggeration. Plas claims over 5,000. Idris Muhammad must be up there somewhere, too. Then there are all those guys like Bernie Glow, Al Klink and Romeo Penque, who seemed to work on every record ever made in Hollywood. 'Course, they may not count as jazz musicians MG But Al Klink was capable sax solist in his own style, and sure in jazz "idiom". I'm sure you're right. Never heard him solo. MG Quote
JSngry Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 That's him traing fours w/Ten Beneke on "In The Mood". Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 JSngry said: That's him traing fours w/Ten Beneke on "In The Mood". Well, if I could remember... It must be fifty or more years. MG Quote
BruceH Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 mrjazzman said: SONNY STITT................ Yes! The first name that came to my mind when I saw this thread. He must be up there. Quote
JSngry Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 (edited) Used to be, back in the day, but then he died, the international/independent label thing opened way up, Lee Konitz stayed alive, etc... Edited November 15, 2009 by JSngry Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 BruceH said: mrjazzman said: SONNY STITT................ Yes! The first name that came to my mind when I saw this thread. He must be up there. Don't think so - Sonny probably made more albums as a leader or co-leader than most anyone else (possible exception Blakey) but comparatively little as a sideman. And it's sideman appearances that put a musician on top. MG Quote
Niko Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 The Magnificent Goldberg said: BruceH said: mrjazzman said: SONNY STITT................ Yes! The first name that came to my mind when I saw this thread. He must be up there. Don't think so - Sonny probably made more albums as a leader or co-leader than most anyone else (possible exception Blakey) but comparatively little as a sideman. And it's sideman appearances that put a musician on top. MG i could imagine chet baker having more leader albums than stitt? wonder who the horn player with most jazz sideman sessions is... Quote
king ubu Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 I guess someone like Plas Johnson (see MG's post above), or some session player (a few are mentioned there, I'd add Jerome Richardson). Quote
Niko Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 king ubu said: I guess someone like Plas Johnson (see MG's post above), or some session player (a few are mentioned there, I'd add Jerome Richardson). i was thinking of "true jazz sideman gigs with some exposure", something like being the second horn player in a quintet, or as a player in a big band but only if there is a solo here and there... still Plas Johnson?... my first thought was Wayne Shorter but i'm sure others have many more... Quote
king ubu Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 That would rule out big band players? Some of them were around for a long time, Benny Bailey for instance... not sure if he actually did record that much, but he was a longtime Clarke-Boland Big Band member and was often a featured soloist (so the true jazz credentials are there, at least). Quote
brownie Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 Benny Bailey is credited with 267 sessions. Another BB (Buster Bailey) gets 370 sessions. Session trumpet player John Best 644! Quote
BruceH Posted November 16, 2009 Report Posted November 16, 2009 JSngry said: Used to be, back in the day, but then he died, the international/independent label thing opened way up, Lee Konitz stayed alive, etc... The Magnificent Goldberg said: BruceH said: mrjazzman said: SONNY STITT................ Yes! The first name that came to my mind when I saw this thread. He must be up there. Don't think so - Sonny probably made more albums as a leader or co-leader than most anyone else (possible exception Blakey) but comparatively little as a sideman. And it's sideman appearances that put a musician on top. MG So in the category of most albums as leader or co-leader, Stitt is right up there. Pretty good in my book. (And sneaky of Lee Konitz to just stay alive like that.) Quote
Swinging Swede Posted November 28, 2009 Report Posted November 28, 2009 Surely Duke Ellington must be mentioned in this context. He has 1162 sessions according to Lord (1057 as leader!). Even some of Duke's sidemen are up there. Harry Carney has 1056 and Johnny Hodges 991. Quote
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