Have we seen the last of the Blue Note RVG reissues?

[campbj1]

The last batch was Feb 2009, I believe. What's in the pipeline?

[AndrewHill]

Nothing.

[colinmce]

Mr. Cuscuna said in a fairly recent interview that there would be more, along with unreleased live Andrew Hill and (I think) Wes Montgomery stuff. I'm skeptical at this point.

[colinmce]

The Blue Note Rudy Van Gelder series will continue to revisit more Blue Note classics. But the Blue Note vault is tapped out of releasable unissued material. That’s why we started what we call internally the discovery series, looking to outside sources for new discoveries. And we hit with a megaton bang starting it off with the Thelonious Monk Quartet with John Coltrane at Carnegie Hall. Charles Mingus At Cornell, and Horace Silver at Newport 1958 followed. We have a killer Freddie Hubbard album Without a Song - Live in Europe coming in June. Freddie was thrilled with this music - he told me he thought it was some of his best playing ever captured on tape. He was going to do a lot of press for it but alas… We are working on material by Andrew Hill and Wes Montgomery next.

[ShowsOn]

I would be more excited if someone other than RVG did the mastering.

They can still call them RVG Editions, but just get someone who doesn't use any compression and treble boosting.

[campbj1]

I suppose we'll find the rest in future Mosaic Select releases. I was hoping for more Horace Parlan, Hank Mobley, and Leo Parker.

Thanks for the responses.

[AndrewHill]

I suppose we'll find the rest in future Mosaic Select releases. I was hoping for more Horace Parlan, Hank Mobley, and Leo Parker.

Thanks for the responses.

Both Leo Parkers have been reissued in the RVG series, is there more material somewhere else?

[CJ Shearn]

I would be more excited if someone other than RVG did the mastering.

They can still call them RVG Editions, but just get someone who doesn't use any compression and treble boosting.

Maureen Sickler? RVG's assistant

[campbj1]

I suppose we'll find the rest in future Mosaic Select releases. I was hoping for more Horace Parlan, Hank Mobley, and Leo Parker.

Thanks for the responses.

Both Leo Parkers have been reissued in the RVG series, is there more material somewhere else?

Not that I know of. I forgot about the earlier release.

[jazzbo]

I'm eager for more of these "discovered" items. I'm not a Hubbard fan really, and I love the Hubbard!

[AndrewHill]

The Hill would be a welcome edition to what little live Hill there is, along with the Montgomery, but I'm not holding my breath in light of the fact that there's been no Conn's this year, one RVG batch, and the Hubbard. All an' all, its not looking real good.

[king ubu]

I've yet to get the Hubbard - I've never seen it in any local store, and it's been out for half a year...

I love the Monk/Trane, Mingus and Silver discs - more along those lines would be great indeed!

[jazzbo]

The Hubbard didn't really come out a half a year ago. It seemed it was supposed to come out in June but very few copies were around then as far as I could tell, it was backordered for a few months or so from most sources.

[felser]

The Hubbard didn't really come out a half a year ago. It seemed it was supposed to come out in June but very few copies were around then as far as I could tell, it was backordered for a few months or so from most sources.

The Hubbard is (or at least was) available on yourmusic.com. That's where I got mine.

[AndrewHill]

Still readily available at Amazon US too, although that may or may not help you Ubu, because things could be different in Europe.

[BruceH]

I would be more excited if someone other than RVG did the mastering.

They can still call them RVG Editions, but just get someone who doesn't use any compression and treble boosting.

Maureen Sickler? RVG's assistant

"The Sickler Series"? Doesn't have a great ring to it, somehow.

Come to think of it, I got the Monk/Trane, Mingus, and Silver discs, so I guess I'm keeping up. Have yet to get the Hubbard, though.

[king ubu]

I'll certainly find my copy of the Hubbard... there are a few other BNs I still need.

But the thing about their archives being exhausted, I don't quite buy it.

There's still no readily available reissue of Cliff Jordan or of Tyrone Washington's album. We discussed this before, but there'd certainly be enough good material for another two or three batches of RVGs. And there'd be tons of fine stuff from Pacific (not just "ethereal" west coast music that didn't sell well in the WCC series, there'd also be some hard-blowing stuff, like more Teddy Edwards, Les McCann... but I guess Cuscuna just doesn't like all of that...)

[Niko]

I'll certainly find my copy of the Hubbard... there are a few other BNs I still need.

But the thing about their archives being exhausted, I don't quite buy it.

There's still no readily available reissue of Cliff Jordan or of Tyrone Washington's album. We discussed this before, but there'd certainly be enough good material for another two or three batches of RVGs. And there'd be tons of fine stuff from Pacific (not just "ethereal" west coast music that didn't sell well in the WCC series, there'd also be some hard-blowing stuff, like more Teddy Edwards, Les McCann... but I guess Cuscuna just doesn't like all of that...)

it's definitely not their archive that's exhausted (freddie roach, to name another one on Blue Note...), concerning the PJ hard bop stuff - Cuscuna put out quite a bit of that in mosaics (carmell jones, curtis amy, onzy matthews, gerald wilson...) i don't think cuscuna doesn't like the music in this case... seems like emi had a comparably hard time selling anything that didn't have a real big name on it or wasn't literally on blue note...

[king ubu]

No, but it does seem Cuscuna dislikes Les McCann (who's on that other Teddy Edwards album), or at least he's not a big fan.

There'd also be another Lighthouse album by the Jazz Crusaders and their collaboration with McCann - these were said to appear on CD (Bluerein reported so long ago... never happened, see Jazz Crusaders Mosaic thread)

[Niko]

No, but it does seem Cuscuna dislikes Les McCann (who's on that other Teddy Edwards album), or at least he's not a big fan.

There'd also be another Lighthouse album by the Jazz Crusaders and their collaboration with McCann - these were said to appear on CD (Bluerein reported so long ago... never happened, see Jazz Crusaders Mosaic thread)

ah, had misread the "all of that"... lame to say the archive is exhausted... as if those few who actually listened to him didn't know better; but looking forward to montgomery and hill!

[jazzbo]

I just think the market drives this. If they can't keep even the heavy hitters in print, why would they put out the obscure titles like the Washington and Jordan? They'll head straight into deletion and the company loses money. And if the big name and famous PJ albums don't make it through deletion, then it makes no sense to release the others.

None of this is state-subsidized etc. It's great art to us, but the owners have to make money. And they're obviously not. Maybe they'll test the waters in downloads in the future. . . but again they'll try first what sells.

I'm happy for anything that comes out, but as we've seen less and less is coming out. The golden days have brassened up.

[king ubu]

Why do they lose money if they re-print the Jordan and Washingtons from some existing masters? They could at least do that, and not have them remastered again. I'm sure there'd even be some good Japanese remasterings around. I don't see how they can lose money if the production of one unit is 1 or 2 or even 3$. I'm sure they'd sell a couple of thousand, no?

It's sad that these silly corporations aren't interested in such "peanuts"... I guess the idea was to bundle production, administration, advertising, marketing and all, but in the end it also made it unfeasible to release good music where *some* profit could be made, but not the kind of profit the big jerks need to buy their next dose of heroin and hookers...

[jazzbo]

I'm not sure that they would sell a couple of thousand, that's the bottom line. Some of the newest titles went into deletion very quickly because sales were so disappointingly low. And I'm not sure that selling a couple of thousand makes any sense for them. . . . I don't expect we'll see these.

[king ubu]

That's the problem, that it makes no sense to them.

It's all so short term... that's the sad thing about the nowadays entertainment industry.

[JETman]

That's the problem, that it makes no sense to them.

It's all so short term... that's the sad thing about the nowadays entertainment industry.

It's a different world.

With all the cd's I've bought, and am still buying, I for one wouldn't mind a slowdown in the reissue department. I know, this is blasphemy here on this board, but I'm sure I'm not the only one sick of buying the same titles two and three times over. Besides, there's alot of great new music out there.