jazzbo Posted October 30, 2009 Report Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) Okay, we know that Mosaic and the former OJC holdings of Concord never have gotten together for any projects. Maybe now that Concord seems to be phasing out the silver discs that might be different? Well regardless, there are some excellent potential box sets to consider that would result of allowing Michael and Scott to lease sessions. Ones I would buy immediately would be: An Etta Jones Prestige set. These sessions need to be put together chronologically, all sessions together, etc. Some great music. Mal Waldron as leader. Just think how great this would be with Addey mastering! A Johnny Lytle Prestige Mosaic. Why not! A Buddy Terry Select. Maybe there's enough stuff? There are so many more potential sets! I'd love to see your ideas. Edited October 30, 2009 by jazzbo Quote
AllenLowe Posted October 30, 2009 Report Posted October 30, 2009 John LaPorta - nobody would buy it but me, but it would be nice. Quote
jazzbo Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Posted October 30, 2009 I'd buy it even though I have all the stuff. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted October 30, 2009 Report Posted October 30, 2009 I like the idea of a Johnny Lytle Riverside/Jazzland set - maybe with the two Milestones in there too; the second of those is a GEM! And never on CD. 6 Riv/Jzlds, 2 Milestones - make a nice box. 7 Lps in the Etta Jones Prestige discography, plus three bonus cuts. A four CD set? Very nice stuff. Of course, I'd add the complete Freddie McCoy on Prestige (I bet MC hates Freddie McCoy! Not even Bob Porter thinks much of him, which might be the reason his LPs never made it to CD.) 7 LPs, but mostly short. Might fit into a 3 disc Select. The Willis Jackson/Jack McDuff sessions - 7 LPs' worth. The sessions were never issued chronologically on LP, so a box of these would be a good thing. Bobby Timmons on Prestige. 7 LPs again, two never out on CD, one never out on CD inUSA. Freddie Roach!!!! Complete leader recordings - 5 BN LPs, 3 PR LPs. Arnett Cobb - 8 Prestige & MV LPs. Wonderful music! A good seller ought to be Jaws & Griff - 10 LPs from PR & Jzld Another important one - the popularisation of the tenor/organ combo- would be Jaws and Shirley Scott - but one ought to have the King(I think?) and Roulette material, too. Big box; maybe too much. Don Patterson's another one who could do with a box. Several of his PR LPs never came out on CD. Jug and Sonny - amazingly, some of that never came out on CD (well, one didn't). Collecting the two of them together over the whole period from the early fifties to 1973 (including the two for Verve) would be interesting. Johnny "Hammond" Smith 1959-June 1962 (prior to his Riverside period) would be interesting. 8 LPs, one never on CD, one other, on Warwick (apparently owned by Morty Craft), I've never even seen a trace of. Some interesting sidemen and his best ballad playing ever. A Teddy Edwards Contemporary/Prestige box (7 LPs) would be nice. Very underrated is Teddy. MG Quote
Niko Posted October 30, 2009 Report Posted October 30, 2009 A "Cannonball Adderley - The Producer" Box... (if only for the Roosevelt Wardell, Lenny McBrowne and Paul Serrano albums - curious about those for years...); would also like to hear the Don Patterson that's not out on CD... Quote
jazzbo Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Posted October 30, 2009 Allen, Niko: all good possibilities! Quote
Man with the Golden Arm Posted October 30, 2009 Report Posted October 30, 2009 <A Johnny Lytle - Mosaic. Why not!> I like the idea of a Johnny Lytle Riverside/Jazzland set - maybe with the two Milestones in there too; the second of those is a GEM! And never on CD. 6 Riv/Jzlds, 2 Milestones - make a nice box. MG bbbbut, what about the Solid States!? would that be a Capitol brand that they could toss in with the Pacifics? http://www.dougpayne.com/jld.htm Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted October 30, 2009 Report Posted October 30, 2009 A "Cannonball Adderley - The Producer" Box... (if only for the Roosevelt Wardell, Lenny McBrowne and Paul Serrano albums - curious about those for years...); would also like to hear the Don Patterson that's not out on CD... I used to have the Wardell and Serrano LPs. Good but not overpowering, so they went when I was short of money. But I've regretted selling both since. In addition, there's the Don Wilkerson, the Newman/Clay and the Budd Johnson, which all came out on CD. Don't know the McBrowne. Actually, never even knew about it until just now. I think there were one or two others. Someone at "The Showboat" or something? I had the feeling from seeing the cover that was definitely dodgy, despite the producer. MG Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted October 30, 2009 Report Posted October 30, 2009 <A Johnny Lytle - Mosaic. Why not!> I like the idea of a Johnny Lytle Riverside/Jazzland set - maybe with the two Milestones in there too; the second of those is a GEM! And never on CD. 6 Riv/Jzlds, 2 Milestones - make a nice box. MG bbbbut, what about the Solid States!? would that be a Capitol brand that they could toss in with the Pacifics? http://www.dougpayne.com/jld.htm I've got two of Lytle's Solid States - "Close enough for jazz" (actually, not quite close enough to a good record) and "Man and woman", which I like very much, though I suspect most won't. I haven't got "JL does it again" but I do have the Village Gate job, which is v nice. All 6 of his Muse albums are very good. MG Quote
Ed S Posted October 30, 2009 Report Posted October 30, 2009 Couldn't a complete Gil Melle be in the cards? Or am I wrong about that? Quote
Joe Posted October 30, 2009 Report Posted October 30, 2009 Trying to organize my thoughts on this... Freddie McCoy. Don Patterson. Seems like this would also be an excellent opportunity to collect all the Shirley Scott Prestige Trios, esp. the "songbooks". Quote
Niko Posted October 30, 2009 Report Posted October 30, 2009 A "Cannonball Adderley - The Producer" Box... (if only for the Roosevelt Wardell, Lenny McBrowne and Paul Serrano albums - curious about those for years...); would also like to hear the Don Patterson that's not out on CD... I used to have the Wardell and Serrano LPs. Good but not overpowering, so they went when I was short of money. But I've regretted selling both since. In addition, there's the Don Wilkerson, the Newman/Clay and the Budd Johnson, which all came out on CD. Don't know the McBrowne. Actually, never even knew about it until just now. I think there were one or two others. Someone at "The Showboat" or something? I had the feeling from seeing the cover that was definitely dodgy, despite the producer. MG there is a someone at the showboat album, plus Clifford Jordan's Spellbound and the Resurgence of Dexter Gordon, both fine, both out on Cd... some on Jazzland as well I believe, like the James Clay Album... had three saxophone lessons from Daniel Jackson when i was 16, one of the best things in my life so far, so i'm a little biased about the McBrowne (two of Jackson's compositions are on the Clay album...); Roosevelt Wardell is the best thing about those newly surfaced Earl Anderza/Dupree Bolton tracks imho, so i got curious... Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted October 30, 2009 Report Posted October 30, 2009 A "Cannonball Adderley - The Producer" Box... (if only for the Roosevelt Wardell, Lenny McBrowne and Paul Serrano albums - curious about those for years...); would also like to hear the Don Patterson that's not out on CD... I used to have the Wardell and Serrano LPs. Good but not overpowering, so they went when I was short of money. But I've regretted selling both since. In addition, there's the Don Wilkerson, the Newman/Clay and the Budd Johnson, which all came out on CD. Don't know the McBrowne. Actually, never even knew about it until just now. I think there were one or two others. Someone at "The Showboat" or something? I had the feeling from seeing the cover that was definitely dodgy, despite the producer. MG there is a someone at the showboat album, plus Clifford Jordan's Spellbound and the Resurgence of Dexter Gordon, both fine, both out on Cd... some on Jazzland as well I believe, like the James Clay Album... had three saxophone lessons from Daniel Jackson when i was 16, one of the best things in my life so far, so i'm a little biased about the McBrowne (two of Jackson's compositions are on the Clay album...); Roosevelt Wardell is the best thing about those newly surfaced Earl Anderza/Dupree Bolton tracks imho, so i got curious... Clay's "Double dose of soul", with two Daniel Jackson compositions, was produced by Keepnews (it sez 'ere). And it was Riverside. The Wardell is very interesting. I didn't have it long but my impression was of something with the feel of the Young/Green/Jones trio - but a piano trio, not organ trio. But there was something about the way Wardell played that conveyed that oblique kind of feeling. I really do wish I hadn't flogged that one. I didn't know the Jordan and the Gordon were Cannon productions. Wow! That would be a very interesting box. Just looked up Jazzdisco.org. The "Showboat" LP is by Dick Morgan. Unfortunately, Mike F doesn't list the producers of the records, so we can't get a full list of these Cannonball productions. MG Quote
Niko Posted October 30, 2009 Report Posted October 30, 2009 when we discussed this in the "box sets you'd like to see from concord" thread (had forgotten about that one) we ended up with this list: CLAY JAMES The sound of the Wide Open Space Apr 26,1960 Riverside 327 GORDON DEXTER The Resurgence of Dexter Oct 13,1960 Jazzland 929 JFK Quintet New Jazz Frontiers from Washington July 17 1961 Riverside 396 JOHNSON BUD The Four Brass Giants Aug 22 ,1960 Riverside 343 JONES SAM Down Home Aug 15,1962 Riverside 432 JORDAN CLIFFORD Spellbound Aug 10,1960 Riverside 340 MANGIONE CAP The jazz Brother Aug 29,1960 Riverside 335 MORGAN DICK At the Showboat May 04,1960 Riverside 1183 McBROWN LENNIE Eastern Lights Oct 13 ,1960 Riverside 346 SERRANO PAUL Blues Holiday Nov 8 ,1960 Riverside 359 WILKERSON DON The Texas Twister May 19 ,1960 Riverside 1186 Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson: Cleanhead and Cannonball - Riverside 3502 definitely impressive... seems like Cannonball was fighting the New York based perception of the jazz scene... Quote
medjuck Posted October 30, 2009 Report Posted October 30, 2009 I'd like to see the complete Shelly Mann art the Blackhawk in chronological order a la Bill Evans at the Vanguard. It would only be 5 cds or maybe could fit onto 3 cds for a select. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 Planned/announced but never issued was a Counce set. Have all the material on lp and cd but it would be nice to recognize the body of work. Quote
Chas Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 Johnny "Hammond" Smith 1959-June 1962 (prior to his Riverside period) would be interesting. 8 LPs, one never on CD, one other, on Warwick (apparently owned by Morty Craft), I've never even seen a trace of. Some interesting sidemen and his best ballad playing ever. Craft was president of Warwick , but his ownership stake was only 15% , with the rest being owned by a Canadian film studio . The Smith Warwick , Imagination , was also issued on MGM subsidiary , Arrow , as Have You Heard . Both issues are very rare indeed . Here are the covers : Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 Johnny "Hammond" Smith 1959-June 1962 (prior to his Riverside period) would be interesting. 8 LPs, one never on CD, one other, on Warwick (apparently owned by Morty Craft), I've never even seen a trace of. Some interesting sidemen and his best ballad playing ever. Craft was president of Warwick , but his ownership stake was only 15% , with the rest being owned by a Canadian film studio . The Smith Warwick , Imagination , was also issued on MGM subsidiary , Arrow , as Have You Heard . Both issues are very rare indeed . Here are the covers : Thanks Chas - that's really interesting. Nice cover on the Arrow (leer) Have you got these, Chas? MG Quote
colinmce Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 Couldn't a complete Gil Melle be in the cards? Or am I wrong about that? While this would be cool, is there anything besides the BN 50s sessions and his three Prestige albums? While all of those are out of print, they were available for years and can still be had. Quote
JSngry Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 Couldn't a complete Gil Melle be in the cards? Or am I wrong about that? While this would be cool, is there anything besides the BN 50s sessions and his three Prestige albums? While all of those are out of print, they were available for years and can still be had. Waterbirds Quote
colinmce Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 Well, true. I guess I was just thinking about the straight-ahead stuff. The 60s/70s material would make a fine box on its own. Quote
JSngry Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 The 60s/70s material would make a fine box on its own. Indeed it would! Quote
gmonahan Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 Planned/announced but never issued was a Counce set. Have all the material on lp and cd but it would be nice to recognize the body of work. It was a great group, but Gambit did a 2-cd set of all of Counce's Quintet masters for Contemporary, and "Exploring the Future" has been issued, though it's kind of spendy now, so I don't imagine we'll ever see it. I think that Jack Sheldon, in particular, does fine work on those quintet sides. gregmo Quote
mikeweil Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 A Don Patterson set would be great, but I would separate the Stitt/Patterson sessions and release them in a box set of their own with the sessions on Roulette, Verve etc. - Patterson's Cadet sessions could be added accordingly. How about a Booker Ervin Prestige set? Jaki Byard? Quote
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