blajay Posted October 29, 2009 Report Posted October 29, 2009 "The Horos.....the Horos......" Hilarious! Quote
B. Clugston Posted October 29, 2009 Report Posted October 29, 2009 I thought I read somewhere that there were rights issues with much of the Horo catalogue. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted October 30, 2009 Report Posted October 30, 2009 I sure hope these releases are legit. Firstly because I want good clean copies of some of this stuff from "the source" and secondarily because this is competition for my releases. I welcome legit competition. I just don't want to lose business to thieves. Quote
peterintoronto Posted October 30, 2009 Report Posted October 30, 2009 This is incredibly welcome news. As others have mentioned, Horo LPs are really not economically viable to acquire on eBay. Quote
jostber Posted October 30, 2009 Report Posted October 30, 2009 Mighty! We have been waiting just a little bit for this. Another one here for a reissue of "Unity". Quote
paul secor Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 I do hope that these are legit releases. If not, I'm staying away. Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 no way horo came aronud and decided to reissue on cd. is the guy even still around? surely these cant be legit--- Quote
thelbc Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 Dub a couple mint LP's and in ITALY/ SPAIN and BELIZE it's legit...!!! What a joke... Quote
JohnS Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) Dub a couple mint LP's and in ITALY/ SPAIN and BELIZE it's legit...!!! What a joke... My recollection of Horo albums were the awful pressings. My Loadstar isn't too bad but my Unity double is bad. The three or four single albums that passed through my collection were all bad to some degree. If they do appear I'd like to get the Lester Bowie and the Sun Ra Quartets but I've really no confidence that we will ever see them remastered. Edited November 2, 2009 by JohnS Quote
Claude Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 Dub a couple mint LP's and in ITALY/ SPAIN and BELIZE it's legit...!!! What a joke... Not in Italy/Spain. These recordings are not in the public domain in the EU. Quote
king ubu Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 So anyone has more info? I'd gladly buy some legit Horo releases! Quote
Claude Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 That one is not legit for sure, with it's MP3 links. Quote
jostber Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 That one is not legit for sure, with it's MP3 links. Didn't notice those links, but have deleted the reference now. Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 im not saying boycott it, sun ra isnt getting the royalities either which way, but i would of liked a cd released mastered from the original session tapes Quote
RDK Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 Dub a couple mint LP's and in ITALY/ SPAIN and BELIZE it's legit...!!! What a joke... Why the skepticism? Is there any reason to think these aren't legit? Quote
Stefan Wood Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 I just went that other jazz site, AAJ's new releases for the month of November. They have Discomforme as the issuer of the Horo discs. DOn't know what that means -- could be needle drops, or could the owner of Horo have licensed it through them? Quote
clifford_thornton Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 The few Disconformes I've had have been bad needle drops, and I chucked 'em. Quote
JETman Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 How was the sound on the original vinyl? Quote
clifford_thornton Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 Argo, Deram, Fontana, Vertigo - all good quality pressings, from what I know. Quote
martini Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 I'd love to see the Horo material reissued, as long as it is done from the original tapes. If the CDs coming out are cheap vinyl rips, I think I'll still be trying to track down the original vinyls at a sub-premium price. It is hard to do, but occasionally possible, with the exception of the Sun Ra stuff. There are a few on the label that I have been trying to track down for years with no success (e.g., A European Proposal featuring Schiano/Rutherford/Mengelberg/Bennink, the large ensemble on Laboratorio Della Quercia, the Shepp albums, and the Rudd solo album). About 12 years ago, when I first got on the internet, I recall that the guy that ran Horo was still selling his vinyl back stock, but I remember that one had to order in bulk. The price seemed high at the time--a few hundred bucks to place a minimum order, I think--but in retrospect it would have been worth doing. Did anyone order from him back then? Quote
jeffcrom Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 About 12 years ago, when I first got on the internet, I recall that the guy that ran Horo was still selling his vinyl back stock, but I remember that one had to order in bulk. The price seemed high at the time--a few hundred bucks to place a minimum order, I think--but in retrospect it would have been worth doing. Did anyone order from him back then? I did. My first Horo order was around 1979, when I found a Horo ad in the back of some magazine - I think Jazz Journal International. I got Parabola by Gil Evans, Threads by Steve Lacy, and one more, but I don't remember which. After that I found a few more in stores, but never placed another order while the company was in business. I somehow came across the website Aldo Sinesio set up to sell off his stock; when was it - about 10 years ago? I don't remember if there was a minimum requirement, but I bought as much as I felt I could afford at the time - MEV, Lacy, all the Sun Ra, Laboratorio della Quercia, Rudd, Adams/Pullen, Roach, etc. I was a little nervous about it, but sure enough, the crappy pressings with the orange labels showed up a few weeks later. I always meant to place another order, but then the site disappeared. I still pick up a Horo occasionally. (If my wife sees this: please read that sentence carefully!) I got one of the Sam Rivers doubles about six months ago from an Ebay vendor - for what I thought was a seasonable price. Quote
Hot Ptah Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) I bought a number of the Horos at Schoolkids Records in Ann Arbor, Michigan in the 1978-81 period. Only my student budget prevented me from buying others which I held in my hands and put back in the rack. Then a long time jazz collector died in the early 2000s and his wife brought his collection to the Music Exchange in Kansas City, then one of the largest used record stores in the U.S. The owner, Ron Rooks, asked me if I wanted to buy the Horos out of the collection. I mention this only to point out the unexpected sort of event which would have had to happen, for one to acquire Horos in the past ten years--unless you wanted to pay top dollar on ebay. I brought my Sam Rivers Horo LP to his concert in Topeka, Kansas in 2008. His daughter encouraged the crowd to get Sam's autograph and buy the Sam Rivers T shirts and mugs which she was selling, after the concert. I asked Sam Rivers to autograph my Horo, which he did. His daughter asked him, "do we have that one?" Sam shook his head and said,"I don't know." Edited November 2, 2009 by Hot Ptah Quote
David Ayers Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) which I held in my hands and put back in the rack. Good post. I suppose if regrets over all we put back in the rack are all we have that's not so bad. That said, we all have these images in our memories... Edited November 3, 2009 by David Ayers Quote
clifford_thornton Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 I remember that, martini, and as I was a broke student at the time (still broke, no longer a student) I couldn't pull the trigger. Oops. Quote
peterintoronto Posted November 3, 2009 Report Posted November 3, 2009 The release date for the first six titles has been pushed back to November 17th (on amazon.ca at least, where I plan to get them from). Anyone in the US grab these yet/get a notice of shipment? Oh, and the label releasing these shows up as 'Phantom Sound & Vision'. Huh? Quote
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