Weather Report's first album

[Big Wheel]

I noticed that a bunch of sites are listing a "Weather Report [2009]", the 1971 debut album, and it's listed as one of those SBME budget-priced titles which are covered in another thread on this forum. So I ordered it from bn.com ...and I get what appears to be a copy of the 1992 original CD release of this title. It has the classy red border and "digitally remastered from the original analog tapes" at the top of the cover.

My question is: did Sony actually remaster this album in 2009 (meaning bn.com sent me the wrong version)? Or is the "2009" just an indication that the 1992 title was repriced in 2009? Everything seems to be pointing toward the second explanation, but wanted to check before I open the shrinkwrap.

Edited September 22, 2009 by Big Wheel

[JETman]

I noticed that a bunch of sites are listing a "Weather Report [2009]", the 1971 debut album, and it's listed as one of those SBME budget-priced titles which are covered in another thread on this forum. So I ordered it from bn.com ...and I get what appears to be a copy of the 1992 original CD release of this title. It has the classy red border and "digitally remastered from the original analog tapes" at the top of the cover.

My question is: did Sony actually remaster this album in 2009 (meaning bn.com sent me the wrong version)? Or is the "2009" just an indication that the 1992 title was repriced in 2009? Everything seems to be pointing toward the second explanation, but wanted to check before I open the shrinkwrap.

This is Sony's repricing and phasing out (deleting) of the titles that are left in their Legacy series. This album was NOT remastered after 1992. In fact, I gave up waiting and bought a Japanese version.

[Big Wheel]

Thanks for the info. It only cost $5.09, so I guess this is good enough to tide me over for the time being.

[J.A.W.]

I noticed that a bunch of sites are listing a "Weather Report [2009]", the 1971 debut album, and it's listed as one of those SBME budget-priced titles which are covered in another thread on this forum. So I ordered it from bn.com ...and I get what appears to be a copy of the 1992 original CD release of this title. It has the classy red border and "digitally remastered from the original analog tapes" at the top of the cover.

My question is: did Sony actually remaster this album in 2009 (meaning bn.com sent me the wrong version)? Or is the "2009" just an indication that the 1992 title was repriced in 2009? Everything seems to be pointing toward the second explanation, but wanted to check before I open the shrinkwrap.

This is Sony's repricing and phasing out (deleting) of the titles that are left in their Legacy series. This album was NOT remastered after 1992. In fact, I gave up waiting and bought a Japanese version.

The Weather Report albums Weather Report, I Sing the Body Electric, Live in Tokyo, Sweetnighter, Mysterious Traveller, Tale Spinnin', Black Market, Heavy Weather, 8:30 and Mr. Gone were all "DSD remastered" according to CD Japan (scroll down to "description").

I have two of those remasters, Mysterious Traveller and Tale Spinnin', and they were both "DSD remastered" by Mark Wilder at the Sony BMG Music Studios, NYC. As far as I know Mr Wilder remastered all the albums mentioned above. I didn't check if any of them were released in the United States.

Edited September 22, 2009 by J.A.W.

[JETman]

I noticed that a bunch of sites are listing a "Weather Report [2009]", the 1971 debut album, and it's listed as one of those SBME budget-priced titles which are covered in another thread on this forum. So I ordered it from bn.com ...and I get what appears to be a copy of the 1992 original CD release of this title. It has the classy red border and "digitally remastered from the original analog tapes" at the top of the cover.

My question is: did Sony actually remaster this album in 2009 (meaning bn.com sent me the wrong version)? Or is the "2009" just an indication that the 1992 title was repriced in 2009? Everything seems to be pointing toward the second explanation, but wanted to check before I open the shrinkwrap.

This is Sony's repricing and phasing out (deleting) of the titles that are left in their Legacy series. This album was NOT remastered after 1992. In fact, I gave up waiting and bought a Japanese version.

The Weather Report albums Weather Report, I Sing the Body Electric, Live in Tokyo, Sweetnighter, Mysterious Traveller, Tale Spinnin', Black Market, Heavy Weather, 8:30 and Mr. Gone were all "DSD remastered" according to CD Japan (scroll down to "description").

I have two of those remasters, Mysterious Traveller and Tale Spinnin', and they were both "DSD remastered" by Mark Wilder at the Sony BMG Music Studios, NYC. As far as I know Mr Wilder remastered all the albums mentioned above. I didn't check if any of them were released in the United States.

Some of the Weather Report albums were indeed remastered for release in the States. Heavy Weather, Tale Spinnin' and Black Market among them. I believe there were 6 in total. A check of each album at Allmusic.com should reveal which ones have more than one release year.

[ghost of miles]

Sort of related to the topic--if you haven't already, it's well worth picking up the ZAWINUL reissue, which I think dates from around the same time. It's part of the (dreaded) Mosaic Contemporary series:

Zawinul

[king ubu]

Sort of related to the topic--if you haven't already, it's well worth picking up the ZAWINUL reissue, which I think dates from around the same time. It's part of the (dreaded) Mosaic Contemporary series:

Zawinul

That's a great album! But I guess I'll stay with my old Warner CD... Mosaic Contemporary made some weird choices, offering stuff that is/was readily available for years.

[jazzbo]

I noticed that a bunch of sites are listing a "Weather Report [2009]", the 1971 debut album, and it's listed as one of those SBME budget-priced titles which are covered in another thread on this forum. So I ordered it from bn.com ...and I get what appears to be a copy of the 1992 original CD release of this title. It has the classy red border and "digitally remastered from the original analog tapes" at the top of the cover.

My question is: did Sony actually remaster this album in 2009 (meaning bn.com sent me the wrong version)? Or is the "2009" just an indication that the 1992 title was repriced in 2009? Everything seems to be pointing toward the second explanation, but wanted to check before I open the shrinkwrap.

This is Sony's repricing and phasing out (deleting) of the titles that are left in their Legacy series. This album was NOT remastered after 1992. In fact, I gave up waiting and bought a Japanese version.

The Weather Report albums Weather Report, I Sing the Body Electric, Live in Tokyo, Sweetnighter, Mysterious Traveller, Tale Spinnin', Black Market, Heavy Weather, 8:30 and Mr. Gone were all "DSD remastered" according to CD Japan (scroll down to "description").

I have two of those remasters, Mysterious Traveller and Tale Spinnin', and they were both "DSD remastered" by Mark Wilder at the Sony BMG Music Studios, NYC. As far as I know Mr Wilder remastered all the albums mentioned above. I didn't check if any of them were released in the United States.

Some of the Weather Report albums were indeed remastered for release in the States. Heavy Weather, Tale Spinnin' and Black Market among them. I believe there were 6 in total. A check of each album at Allmusic.com should reveal which ones have more than one release year.

Yes, but not with DSD mastering. They sound good though.

[king ubu]

Yes, I got those US remasters as well (I have five, didn't upgrade "Heavy Weather" yet).

Not sure "I Sing the Body Electric" was actually part of those remasters, but it looks nice and fancy... it was probably done in between the old ones (with red frames and masterworks logo in one corner) and the other newer ones (which would then be five: Sweetnighter, Mysterious Traveller, Tale Spinnin', Black Market, Heavy Weather).

Live in Tokyo I have as a European edition with hardly any information on it.

Then there's the Live & Unreleased 2CD set as well.

The rest is just old versions, as far as I know. (But I'm not that interested in later WR, which is why I didn't upgrade Heavy Weather yet... it's the early open and experimental stuff that fascinates me.)

[king ubu]

As for the first album, I asked the same question (I think in the artists section's WR corner) and then bought the old (red frame) edition as well. And I also saw entries with 2009 and hence was wondering...

Sony has a cheap series out here now, with no new liner notes, just a one-fold flimsy cover, on the outside you get the front and back covers (with a beige border) and on the inside, you get bare-bones discographical info plus production credits. I got the "Bill Evans Album" a couple of days ago (finally!) and also saw Garner's "Body and Soul" and "Concert By the Sea" in such editions (also some Miles, I think).

The Evans looks like this (I think the beige border is a bit larger in real):

Maybe the first WR album is around in such a version as well, hence the 2009 date? I haven't seen it however.

[J.A.W.]

As I said in my earlier post, the first Weather Report album was DSD-remastered by Mark Wilder and released on CD in Japan in 2007. It's now OOP.

[king ubu]

I know, I was just adding more info to the US remasters from a few years ago - the first album wasn't part of that series.

[Bluerein]

King: the Live in Tokyo is a clone of the Japanese edition. I believe with the black cd and MasterSound on it as well. So the remastering is the Japanese also.

[J.A.W.]

King: the Live in Tokyo is a clone of the Japanese edition. I believe with the black cd and MasterSound on it as well. So the remastering is the Japanese also.

According to their inserts the remasters that came out in Japan in 2007 were done in NYC, not in Japan.

Edited September 23, 2009 by J.A.W.

[JETman]

King: the Live in Tokyo is a clone of the Japanese edition. I believe with the black cd and MasterSound on it as well. So the remastering is the Japanese also.

NYC,

Could you be talking about the best city on Earth?

[rockefeller center]

King: the Live in Tokyo is a clone of the Japanese edition. I believe with the black cd and MasterSound on it as well. So the remastering is the Japanese also.

NYC,

Could you be talking about the best city on Earth?

Probably not. Because that would be Basel.

[JETman]

King: the Live in Tokyo is a clone of the Japanese edition. I believe with the black cd and MasterSound on it as well. So the remastering is the Japanese also.

NYC,

Could you be talking about the best city on Earth?

Probably not. Because that would be Basel.

Touche, but you must have some love for the center of the universe, given your handle. No?

[Bluerein]

I was talking about the older 1997 mini LP MasterSound edition. There's no mentioning of remaster engineers so I can't tell where it's done but I suspect it's an all Japanese afair. The EU live in Tokyo is from before 2007 so it must be a clone of this version and not the later one.

[king ubu]

I don't even think the EU "Live in Tokyo" gives any year of release, but I'm at work and don't have it at hand.

I haven't played it yet, but I guess to my ears it will sound ok (at least) anyway...