mikeweil Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) But the thing is, it's almost impossible to keep up with the releases, and it makes no sense to buy the new ones as they come out an instead let older releases go OOP without buying them. If I had the funds, I'd just buy all the older releases and then keep up, but that's just no option, because - great as they are - there are other things I want to hear and explore, as well. Again, my thoughts exactly! I would have bought these sets from Mosaic over the course of the next six or eight months, one by one, but now that the hunt is on due to that unbelieveable carelessness of a third party ... I had to watch some sets go oop due to lack of funds and was lucky to get them years later for a good price, but since then I always ordered from Mosaic in time or when they went to the running low category. But this was simply too fast for me, especially since I missed that e-mail as I was on vacation without an internet connection. No, I'm not one to blame. If Mosaics were all I collect, well .... but there are quite a few other styles of music I am interested in, and some of them for professional reasons. Edited September 17, 2009 by mikeweil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikelz777 Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) I'm still a bit pissed by Reinier's attack. Just in case: I had them put a Pearson Select aside for me. Yesterday my order was shipped, and it also contained the Anthony Braxton box and a single. Ok? I also own about 20 or 25 in print Mosaic boxes and Selects, and I bought about 6 or 7 of the Singles (which seem to be pretty unsuccesful, alas). However, some of those are Universal Mosaics and I guess I have to be blamed for buying them as well? Holy holy! I wouldn't take it too seriously, you just have to let it roll. I'm certainly not losing any sleep over it nor do I feel any kind of need to justify my buying habits with anyone. Taken to it's logical conclusion, he seems to be saying that there's something wrong or unethical about buying used CDs or buying new CDs from anyone other than the initial distributor. On top of that, that we should feel guilty for being in the position of having to buy these CDs from anyone other than Mosaic in the first place. I have 5 Selects and all 5 of them were purchased brand new from merchants other than Mosaic. Did these merchants get them for free? I hardly think so. Mosaic made their money on these sets. Mosaic made their money, I got them at a better price and the merchant got their cut as well. Win-win-win. One also can't assume that if these sets weren't available elsewhere that Mosaic would make the sale instead. There are several sets I own that I would never have purchased at Mosaic's price but was able and willing to purchase because of a much lower price offered by a private seller. (Mosaic made their money on that set too.) On these sets, if it came down to paying Mosaic's price or not having the set at all, I wouldn't have the set. I'm sure Bluerein and I are in disagreement on this matter but my conscience is clear despite how (s)he would try and make me feel about it. I'd say kick back, relax and enjoy those Mosaic's no matter where you might have gotten them. Edited September 17, 2009 by mikelz777 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papsrus Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 I guess it's OK to admit I got the Brookmeyer used a while ago then? It feels almost like bragging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 And I think I might just hit up Mosaic for the Amy, Green, Reece, and Mobley sets. Just placed this order. Excited as hell, but not looking forward to the credit card bill! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikelz777 Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 And I think I might just hit up Mosaic for the Amy, Green, Reece, and Mobley sets. Just placed this order. Excited as hell, but not looking forward to the credit card bill! All four of those sets are excellent. You've got some great listening ahead of you. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Of the Selects, I'd be OK with letting the remaining titles slide except maybe the Charles Tolliver. Anyone have thoughts on that one? I'll usually listen to sound samples several times over the course of a couple of weeks and then decide if I really want it. That approach usually weeds out the "I'm more excited to get something new" vs. the "I'd really like this recording." So far, the Tolliver sound samples have held my interest. Those Tolliver sessions (at Slug's) have been amongst my favorite live recordings for over 30 years. When the Select came out I didn't waste 2 seconds before ordering it. It sounds great and the additional unreleased tunes (disk 3) are a major bonus not available otherwise. A fantastic example of early-70's hard bop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 (edited) I'd say the Tolliver material is a chunk of music you'd want to hear. These sessions really have a lot of life in them. I guess in the end they are musically limited which is why I didn't replace the copies I already have with the Select. I'd say that if you ever were interested in Woody Shaw then you might also enjoy this Tolliver. I agree that other of these Selects are really for collectors and can be happily let slide. My problem with the series was that I already had the key material on those sets which interested me, much of which has been easily available for some time. Edited September 18, 2009 by David Ayers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 I'd say the Tolliver material is a chunk of music you'd want to hear. These sessions really have a lot of life in them. I guess in the end they are musically limited which is why I didn't replace the copies I already have with the Select. just to clarify: one disc of the select is bonus tracks not available elsewhere; that said, i have some of tolliver's other albums and i believe i understand what you mean by "musically limited"... the two selects i really want to get eventually are the tolliver and the first hill, at this point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Excited as hell, but not looking forward to the credit card bill! Again: My thoughts exactly ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Excited as hell, but not looking forward to the credit card bill! Again: My thoughts exactly ... don't mention it please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikelz777 Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 (edited) I'd say the Tolliver material is a chunk of music you'd want to hear. These sessions really have a lot of life in them. I guess in the end they are musically limited which is why I didn't replace the copies I already have with the Select. I'd say that if you ever were interested in Woody Shaw then you might also enjoy this Tolliver. just to clarify: one disc of the select is bonus tracks not available elsewhere; that said, i have some of tolliver's other albums and i believe i understand what you mean by "musically limited"... the two selects i really want to get eventually are the tolliver and the first hill, at this point... I do like Woody Shaw. I have the Mosaic, Stepping Stones, In My Own Sweet Way, Live Vol. 3 and the sessions with Freddie Hubbard. Some of his stuff (not what I own) is a bit too "out" for me. What do you mean when you say that the Tolliver stuff is "musically limited"? Is is because there is not another horn involved other than his trumpet? Is it because you see it as too straight ahead vs. adventurous or vice versa? Because the music starts to sound all the same or the soloing patterns are all the same? Because of the skills or execution of the musicians involved? I'm just curious about what you meant by that. Edited September 18, 2009 by mikelz777 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSB046 Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Yep, it figures. I was on here a couple of days ago praising Movie Mars and saying I had never had an issue with multiple CD orders...and now they just e-mailed that the Bob Brookmeyer set was out of stock. Guess their orders came in faster than they could update stock. That's really annoying. Wonder how many other Brookmeyer sets I missed the chance to grab while waiting on them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellowT Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Join the club. I think I'll wait until a non-drop-shipper sells one on eBay. Hope the result doesn't end up on the Ebay craziness thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikelz777 Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 (edited) Yep, it figures. I was on here a couple of days ago praising Movie Mars and saying I had never had an issue with multiple CD orders...and now they just e-mailed that the Bob Brookmeyer set was out of stock. Guess their orders came in faster than they could update stock. That's really annoying. Wonder how many other Brookmeyer sets I missed the chance to grab while waiting on them? That's weird. I don't know if Movie Mars and Movie Marz are the same things but Movie Marz currently has a listing on Ebay stating they have 2 copes of the Brookmeyer available for $62.23. ("Buy It Now", free shipping) Edited September 18, 2009 by mikelz777 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellowT Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Just ordered a Don Pullen Select from Oldies.com for $58.33. This is probably a complete waste of time, but at least it's a merchant that doesn't charge your credit card until the product ships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSB046 Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 That's weird. I don't know if Movie Mars and Movie Marz are the same things but Movie Marz currently has a listing on Ebay stating they have 2 copes of the Brookmeyer available for $62.23. ("Buy It Now", free shipping) I think they are the same. I actually asked the customer service rep about this when I cancelled my order, but they didn't respond to my question. On the plus side, I think I found a copy someplace else. MellowT, I just tried to send you a PM, but I'm not sure it went through. Let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blajay Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 I received my package from Mosaic yesterday. They shipped me the Duke Pearson set instead of the Bennie Green one! Thankfully, there are still Bennie Green sets around, so they agreed to send me one and provide postage to send back the Duke Pearson set. Phew! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 (edited) Looks like I have a package waiting at the post office for collection tomorrow. Could be Lou Donaldson ... or it could be the HRS from Mosaic. Edited September 18, 2009 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Poor Duke Pearson, he doesn't get any respect. . . . (I really like his Select). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Duke Pearson Select gets my vote too. I've got much of the material on LP and these are nice, very listenable latin-themed sessions. Really like Flora Purim's singing on these recordings too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blajay Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Yeah, I actually thought about just paying for it in addition to the Green set, now that I already have it. It's super tempting, but I think due to budget concerns, I'll pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 I ordered my Pearson... and to add something unlikely to go OOP too soon (quite in Reinier's spirit), I added the Braxton to my order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 1960 Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 No word from Movie Mars. Not very hopeful at this point about receiving the Pacific Jazz Piano Trios. Sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted September 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 I am still hoping to find a reasonably priced and in-stock Don Pullen, but this set seems to be one of the more elusive ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Looks like I have a package waiting at the post office for collection tomorrow. Could be Lou Donaldson ... or it could be the HRS from Mosaic. You mustn't say things like this to those of us who thought waiting on the Lou Donaldson set was a pretty safe bet. I've scoured the internet and every foreign source I can think of and all I can find is one huckster who wants $299.00. Even in my state of wanton desperation, that ain't gonna happen. Up over and out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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