Bad news from Mosaic

[mikelz777]

And I think I might just hit up Mosaic for the Amy, Green, Reece, and Mobley sets.

Just placed this order. Excited as hell, but not looking forward to the credit card bill!

All four of those sets are excellent. You've got some great listening ahead of you. Enjoy!

[BFrank]

Of the Selects, I'd be OK with letting the remaining titles slide except maybe the Charles Tolliver. Anyone have thoughts on that one? I'll usually listen to sound samples several times over the course of a couple of weeks and then decide if I really want it. That approach usually weeds out the "I'm more excited to get something new" vs. the "I'd really like this recording." So far, the Tolliver sound samples have held my interest.

Those Tolliver sessions (at Slug's) have been amongst my favorite live recordings for over 30 years. When the Select came out I didn't waste 2 seconds before ordering it. It sounds great and the additional unreleased tunes (disk 3) are a major bonus not available otherwise. A fantastic example of early-70's hard bop.

[David Ayers]

I'd say the Tolliver material is a chunk of music you'd want to hear. These sessions really have a lot of life in them. I guess in the end they are musically limited which is why I didn't replace the copies I already have with the Select. I'd say that if you ever were interested in Woody Shaw then you might also enjoy this Tolliver.

I agree that other of these Selects are really for collectors and can be happily let slide. My problem with the series was that I already had the key material on those sets which interested me, much of which has been easily available for some time.

Edited September 18, 2009 by David Ayers

[Niko]

I'd say the Tolliver material is a chunk of music you'd want to hear. These sessions really have a lot of life in them. I guess in the end they are musically limited which is why I didn't replace the copies I already have with the Select.

just to clarify: one disc of the select is bonus tracks not available elsewhere; that said, i have some of tolliver's other albums and i believe i understand what you mean by "musically limited"... the two selects i really want to get eventually are the tolliver and the first hill, at this point...

[mikeweil]

Excited as hell, but not looking forward to the credit card bill!

Again: My thoughts exactly ...

[king ubu]

Excited as hell, but not looking forward to the credit card bill!

Again: My thoughts exactly ...

don't mention it please!

[mikelz777]

I'd say the Tolliver material is a chunk of music you'd want to hear. These sessions really have a lot of life in them. I guess in the end they are musically limited which is why I didn't replace the copies I already have with the Select. I'd say that if you ever were interested in Woody Shaw then you might also enjoy this Tolliver.

just to clarify: one disc of the select is bonus tracks not available elsewhere; that said, i have some of tolliver's other albums and i believe i understand what you mean by "musically limited"... the two selects i really want to get eventually are the tolliver and the first hill, at this point...

I do like Woody Shaw. I have the Mosaic, Stepping Stones, In My Own Sweet Way, Live Vol. 3 and the sessions with Freddie Hubbard. Some of his stuff (not what I own) is a bit too "out" for me.

What do you mean when you say that the Tolliver stuff is "musically limited"? Is is because there is not another horn involved other than his trumpet? Is it because you see it as too straight ahead vs. adventurous or vice versa? Because the music starts to sound all the same or the soloing patterns are all the same? Because of the skills or execution of the musicians involved? I'm just curious about what you meant by that.

Edited September 18, 2009 by mikelz777

[CSB046]

Yep, it figures.

I was on here a couple of days ago praising Movie Mars and saying I had never had an issue with multiple CD orders...and now they just e-mailed that the Bob Brookmeyer set was out of stock. Guess their orders came in faster than they could update stock.

That's really annoying. Wonder how many other Brookmeyer sets I missed the chance to grab while waiting on them?

[mellowT]

Join the club. I think I'll wait until a non-drop-shipper sells one on eBay. Hope the result doesn't end up on the Ebay craziness thread.

[mikelz777]

Yep, it figures.

I was on here a couple of days ago praising Movie Mars and saying I had never had an issue with multiple CD orders...and now they just e-mailed that the Bob Brookmeyer set was out of stock. Guess their orders came in faster than they could update stock.

That's really annoying. Wonder how many other Brookmeyer sets I missed the chance to grab while waiting on them?

That's weird. I don't know if Movie Mars and Movie Marz are the same things but Movie Marz currently has a listing on Ebay stating they have 2 copes of the Brookmeyer available for $62.23. ("Buy It Now", free shipping)

Edited September 18, 2009 by mikelz777

[mellowT]

Just ordered a Don Pullen Select from Oldies.com for $58.33. This is probably a complete waste of time, but at least it's a merchant that doesn't charge your credit card until the product ships.

[CSB046]

That's weird. I don't know if Movie Mars and Movie Marz are the same things but Movie Marz currently has a listing on Ebay stating they have 2 copes of the Brookmeyer available for $62.23. ("Buy It Now", free shipping)

I think they are the same. I actually asked the customer service rep about this when I cancelled my order, but they didn't respond to my question.

On the plus side, I think I found a copy someplace else.

MellowT, I just tried to send you a PM, but I'm not sure it went through. Let me know.

[blajay]

I received my package from Mosaic yesterday. They shipped me the Duke Pearson set instead of the Bennie Green one! Thankfully, there are still Bennie Green sets around, so they agreed to send me one and provide postage to send back the Duke Pearson set. Phew!

[sidewinder]

Looks like I have a package waiting at the post office for collection tomorrow. Could be Lou Donaldson

... or it could be the HRS from Mosaic.

Edited September 18, 2009 by sidewinder

[jazzbo]

Poor Duke Pearson, he doesn't get any respect. . . . (I really like his Select).

[sidewinder]

Duke Pearson Select gets my vote too. I've got much of the material on LP and these are nice, very listenable latin-themed sessions. Really like Flora Purim's singing on these recordings too.

[blajay]

Yeah, I actually thought about just paying for it in addition to the Green set, now that I already have it. It's super tempting, but I think due to budget concerns, I'll pass.

[king ubu]

I ordered my Pearson... and to add something unlikely to go OOP too soon (quite in Reinier's spirit), I added the Braxton to my order.

[Tom 1960]

No word from Movie Mars. Not very hopeful at this point about receiving the Pacific Jazz Piano Trios. Sucks.

[J.A.W.]

I am still hoping to find a reasonably priced and in-stock Don Pullen, but this set seems to be one of the more elusive ones.

[Dave James]

Looks like I have a package waiting at the post office for collection tomorrow. Could be Lou Donaldson

... or it could be the HRS from Mosaic.

You mustn't say things like this to those of us who thought waiting on the Lou Donaldson set was a pretty safe bet. I've scoured the internet and every foreign source I can think of and all I can find is one huckster who wants $299.00. Even in my state of wanton desperation, that ain't gonna happen.

Up over and out.

[BFrank]

Curtis Amy arrived today. Have to give it a spin over the weekend.

I'd say the Tolliver material is a chunk of music you'd want to hear. These sessions really have a lot of life in them. I guess in the end they are musically limited which is why I didn't replace the copies I already have with the Select. I'd say that if you ever were interested in Woody Shaw then you might also enjoy this Tolliver.

just to clarify: one disc of the select is bonus tracks not available elsewhere; that said, i have some of tolliver's other albums and i believe i understand what you mean by "musically limited"... the two selects i really want to get eventually are the tolliver and the first hill, at this point...

I do like Woody Shaw. I have the Mosaic, Stepping Stones, In My Own Sweet Way, Live Vol. 3 and the sessions with Freddie Hubbard. Some of his stuff (not what I own) is a bit too "out" for me.

What do you mean when you say that the Tolliver stuff is "musically limited"? Is is because there is not another horn involved other than his trumpet? Is it because you see it as too straight ahead vs. adventurous or vice versa? Because the music starts to sound all the same or the soloing patterns are all the same? Because of the skills or execution of the musicians involved? I'm just curious about what you meant by that.

One of the great things about these sessions for me is the live feeling throughout. It's got great "presence".

BTW, I wouldn't call it "musically limited", but that's just me - I'm a little biased.

[sidewinder]

My Brookmeyer Select has arrived - and the HRS set from Mosaic. Some good listening ahead today

[David Ayers]

What do you mean when you say that the Tolliver stuff is "musically limited"? Is is because there is not another horn involved other than his trumpet? Is it because you see it as too straight ahead vs. adventurous or vice versa? Because the music starts to sound all the same or the soloing patterns are all the same? Because of the skills or execution of the musicians involved? I'm just curious about what you meant by that.

Oh I mean I find the soul jazz idiom much-of-a-muchness, and with one horn then yeah after a while you know where you are pretty much, which is why I'm not hungry for the extra tracks. I was about to write 'I'll probably pick up the box eventually' but as we now know that is a dangerous sentiment...

[Clunky]

My Brookmeyer Select has arrived - and the HRS set from Mosaic. Some good listening ahead today

both very fine sets, if I had to choose one it'd be the HRS, I think it has longer staying power. Meanwhile I await Shank/Cooper, Patton and Amy ( a late addition- given how much I like Katanga and Way Down.