JSngry Posted November 25, 2003 Report Posted November 25, 2003 Hell, I'm one of the few guys around here who's played "Played Twice" with anything remotelly resembling regularity, and it's been in the Real Book for as long as I can remember. The "ability" factor is certainly legitimate, but the "lazy" factor is not. Quote
Sundog Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 I didn't mean to be critical of those who like to play Blue Monk I know you weren't being critical. I was just enthusiastically stating my point! B) I actually tend to agree with your main point about exploring an artists catalog. About a month ago, I decided to really concentrate on learning compositions by some of my favorite artists like, Ellington/Strayhorn, Monk, and Rollins. I actually now have two Monk songs under my belt! Blue Monk and In Walked Bud. Also, now know Alfie's Theme. I've never heard either of these two songs played in these parts. I'm looking forward to being the first. If I can turn on one person to Monk or Rollins that would be great. Hell, if people tap their foot I'm happy! Quote
Jazzmoose Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 I've never heard either of these two songs played in these parts. I'm looking forward to being the first. Hey, as far as I'm concerned, with In Walked Bud, you're on a sacred mission. Go get 'em!! Quote
Jazzmoose Posted May 29, 2005 Report Posted May 29, 2005 Okay, here's my choice (after all this time): Baby, It's Cold Outside. Sometime during the David Johannson performance on SNL, this song became a complete joke that I just cannot take seriously. Even the classic performances make me grimace. This song shouldn't just be retired, but should be taken out behind the barn and shot. Quote
Brownian Motion Posted May 29, 2005 Report Posted May 29, 2005 Still haven't changed my mind. Please, please, PLEASE stop recording Baby It's Cold Outside! Yeah, once David Johannsen (by whatever silly name it was he was going by!) did that one, the plug should have been pulled! ← Moose, you're repeating yourself. But you're consistent! Quote
SGUD missile Posted May 29, 2005 Report Posted May 29, 2005 Having had to write charts for singers for years, I finally had to put a surcharge on "My Funny Valentine" if another chart of it was requested .. molto ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzando! ditto "Summertime" ( I'd always try to sell the girl singers on "My Mans' Gone Now" ..with usually little success ) "Caravan" can be cool ..if you voice it in parallel.. with all three diminished chord present Quote
Jazzmoose Posted May 29, 2005 Report Posted May 29, 2005 Still haven't changed my mind. Please, please, PLEASE stop recording Baby It's Cold Outside! Yeah, once David Johannsen (by whatever silly name it was he was going by!) did that one, the plug should have been pulled! ← Moose, you're repeating yourself. But you're consistent! ← Holy shit...I'm becoming my senile grandfather...repeating the same stories over and over... Quote
Alexander Hawkins Posted May 30, 2005 Report Posted May 30, 2005 Rational side of me says performer not song, etc. Irrational hatred side says NO to Autumn Leaves My Funny Valentine My Romance Have You Met Miss Jones Quote
Jazz Kat Posted May 30, 2005 Report Posted May 30, 2005 I may be blasphemous, but I'm going to nominate "Caravan." ← That tune is just too cool! I'd say My Funny Valentine, All The Things You Are, I Should Care... I used to like those, but they don't take me anywhere, no more.. Quote
Free For All Posted May 30, 2005 Report Posted May 30, 2005 I've said this before but I maintain that the "tiredness" of a tune is determined solely by the specific interpretation/quality of performance. It seems that just when I'm burnt out on a specific tune I come across a version of it that kicks ass and breathes new life into it. IMHO. Quote
JSngry Posted May 30, 2005 Report Posted May 30, 2005 I'm reminded of a story related by Dave Liebman. Seems that he was complaining to Miles about not being able to find wnything new to play on certain tunes. Miles response was simple - "Don't blame the tune." I agree. A song doesn't play itself. Quote
John L Posted May 31, 2005 Report Posted May 31, 2005 I could do without ever hearing another version of Giant Steps, or Countdown for that matter. Sax players are welcome to continue cutting their teeth on those in private. Quote
Kalo Posted June 2, 2005 Report Posted June 2, 2005 I would tend to agree with all who wrote that it's the player and not the tune, but one tune that really is a drag, as far as I'm concerned, is "Where or When." (Yeah, I know, Tatum and Webster's version is nice, but still my least favorite thing on that record.) And it has come to the point where if you play "My Funny Valentine," "Summertime," or "'Round Midnight," or anything from Kind of Blue you'd damn well better have something new to say, and even then you're fighting an uphill battle. Quote
WD45 Posted June 2, 2005 Report Posted June 2, 2005 Count me in for "When the Saints Go Marching In." Quote
marcello Posted June 2, 2005 Report Posted June 2, 2005 And it has come to the point where if you play "My Funny Valentine," "Summertime," or "'Round Midnight," or anything from Kind of Blue you'd damn well better have something new to say, and even then you're fighting an uphill battle. ← I agree, although I've recently heard new, fresh and complementry versions of Summertime, Round Midnight and All The Things You Are. What is really unpleasant is when those time worn tunes are changed just for the sake of change and the new arrangements do not enhance the original song. There should be some kind of demerit system for those song crimes. The last Bobby Watson record is evidence in point. Quote
Kalo Posted June 3, 2005 Report Posted June 3, 2005 (edited) marcello Posted Jun 1 2005, 08:34 PM What is really unpleasant is when those time worn tunes are changed just for the sake of change and the new arrangements do not enhance the original song. Agreed. Better to just leave them alone rather than shit all over them a la Kenneth Gorelick. Edited June 3, 2005 by Kalo Quote
Guest Posted July 2, 2005 Report Posted July 2, 2005 Misty Satin Doll Green Dolphin Street Route 66 Lady Is A Fuckin' Tramp Tequila Have A Nagila Quote
AllenLowe Posted July 3, 2005 Report Posted July 3, 2005 well, than, let's not forget : Strangers in the Fuckin' Night (in 5/4) - Quote
SGUD missile Posted July 3, 2005 Report Posted July 3, 2005 Speaking of overdone warhorses: I forget exactly what show it was on, but several years ago, some nutjob went to the trouble of videotaping a WHOLE flotilla of cheezoid lounge singer /pianists ( some far worse than others ) all doing "Misty" .... ..and splicing them together a phrase at a time, thereby creating a two and a half chorus visual and audio collage that while musically horrifying, was one of the most hilarious things I've ever seen on TV! I do think its time someone did that to "My Funny Valenzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....zzzzz Quote
Michael Fitzgerald Posted July 3, 2005 Report Posted July 3, 2005 That was on Saturday Night Live in 1976, a short film by Gary Weis. Mike Quote
AllenLowe Posted July 3, 2005 Report Posted July 3, 2005 than thanthanthanthenethenethentehhenr - take your pick - Quote
rostasi Posted July 3, 2005 Report Posted July 3, 2005 I could go thru the rest of my life without ever hearing "Amazing Grace" again. I hope that I do as a matter of fact... --- Now playing: Freddie Slack - I Lost My Sugar In Salt Lake City Quote
Nate Dorward Posted July 3, 2005 Report Posted July 3, 2005 Better stay away from Joe McPhee concerts then....... Quote
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