Chuck Nessa Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 Blind Willie, etc used the guitar to comment on the words - the white guys used the words to get to the guitar. It matters who does the directing, if you admire the original art. Quote
jazzbo Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 (edited) That's not absolute. And an argument could be made about. . . but I'll just not bother. Edited August 4, 2009 by jazzbo Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 Geez, I've been dismissed by Jazzbo. Quote
paul secor Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 Chuck Nessa said: jazzbo said: Winters does this long blues on a Fender 12 String that has to be heard to be believed. A landmark performance. That's my main complaint about the "white blues-ers", they thought it was a guitar form when it was a vocal art. Back to square one for me. Hard to treat blues as a vocal art if you can't sing. Quote
jazzbo Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 Not dismissed. I've had a 103 fever for over three days and no iddea yet why or relief. I've had about ten hours sleep. I don't feel like arguing, and I don't ever feel I'll convince you. Quote
jazzbo Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 Not dismissed. I've had a 103 fever for over three days and no iddea yet why or relief. I've had about ten hours sleep. I don't feel like arguing, and I don't ever feel I'll convince you. Quote
Jazzmoose Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 Chuck Nessa said: jazzbo said: Winters does this long blues on a Fender 12 String that has to be heard to be believed. A landmark performance. That's my main complaint about the "white blues-ers", they thought it was a guitar form when it was a vocal art. Back to square one for me. Judging by a lazy listen, it hasn't aged well, either. Texas has done better. Quote
Hot Ptah Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 I think that Johnny Winter's Woodstock recording may be the best of his career. I like his "Mean Town Blues" at Woodstock and think that his vocal is actually quite good, and convincing, no matter what his race. It's easy to slam something you haven't listened to, by stereotyping the performer. I don't like a lot of Winter's recorded output, but I like his Woodstock performance. To me, the release of Johnny Winter's entire Woodstock set is worthwhile, in that it catches him at an early moment in his career when he was at a peak. There are no other recordings of him from this time frame that capture this. I don't think that Johnny Winter in 1969 was ignoring blues vocals and just playing a lot of technical guitar stuff. That's not what I hear on this Woodstock set. Quote
7/4 Posted August 4, 2009 Report Posted August 4, 2009 Hot Ptah said: I think that Johnny Winter's Woodstock recording may be the best of his career. I like his "Mean Town Blues" at Woodstock and think that his vocal is actually quite good, and convincing, no matter what his race. It's easy to slam something you haven't listened to, by stereotyping the performer. I don't like a lot of Winter's recorded output, but I like his Woodstock performance. To me, the release of Johnny Winter's entire Woodstock set is worthwhile, in that it catches him at an early moment in his career when he was at a peak. There are no other recordings of him from this time frame that capture this. I don't think that Johnny Winter in 1969 was ignoring blues vocals and just playing a lot of technical guitar stuff. That's not what I hear on this Woodstock set. It's not the entire set. It's missing the early version of Frankenstein (called something else at that point) that was the double drum encore. Quote
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marcello Posted August 20, 2009 Report Posted August 20, 2009 Hot Ptah said: I think that Johnny Winter's Woodstock recording may be the best of his career. I like his "Mean Town Blues" at Woodstock and think that his vocal is actually quite good, and convincing, no matter what his race. It's easy to slam something you haven't listened to, by stereotyping the performer. I don't like a lot of Winter's recorded output, but I like his Woodstock performance. To me, the release of Johnny Winter's entire Woodstock set is worthwhile, in that it catches him at an early moment in his career when he was at a peak. There are no other recordings of him from this time frame that capture this. I don't think that Johnny Winter in 1969 was ignoring blues vocals and just playing a lot of technical guitar stuff. That's not what I hear on this Woodstock set. I just came across this. I remember hearing the Johnny Winter set about a week after the festival on the local FM radio station. It was "underground radio" then, remember? I can't remember the circumstances, or if the recordings were made from the audience or not, but someone came to the station and had a interview and played tapes of a lot of music from Woodstock that they had. The sound quality was good, so I have the feeling that someone was going around with pilfered soundboard tapes. There were a lot of locals that worked the festival, so it possible that they hired some sound people from here that took home some souvenirs. Quote
TedR Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 I also just came across this and forgive the chewy imitation but.......wait wait wait wait .....I never knew Johnny Winter played at Woodstock. Maybe i forgot i knew it but i think i never knew it. I've got to hear those recordings. Quote
felser Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 TedR said: I also just came across this and forgive the chewy imitation but.......wait wait wait wait .....I never knew Johnny Winter played at Woodstock. Maybe i forgot i knew it but i think i never knew it. I've got to hear those recordings. Continuing the chewy subthread: Did Hank sit in with Johnny Winter at Woodstock? Quote
Hot Ptah Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 felser said: TedR said: I also just came across this and forgive the chewy imitation but.......wait wait wait wait .....I never knew Johnny Winter played at Woodstock. Maybe i forgot i knew it but i think i never knew it. I've got to hear those recordings. Continuing the chewy subthread: Did Hank sit in with Johnny Winter at Woodstock? No, but it's Baby Face on organ with Winter. Quote
marcello Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 No - I think it was Buddy Collette. (Just having fun Chewy!) Quote
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