CJ Shearn Posted July 9, 2009 Report Posted July 9, 2009 I came across an old rec.music.bluenote post mentioning that a take of "Black Narcissus" exists from the "In Japan" session not included on the box, as well as the bass/drums solos edited out from that album's take of "Blue Bossa". Anyone know why the set was issued this way? it's fantastic regardless, but just kind of strange it's incomplete. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted July 14, 2009 Report Posted July 14, 2009 Anybody know? Would love to hear more Joe material from this era. And speaking of live Joe from the 70's, anybody know if this 'Everest' LP (of dubious origin) ever made it to CD?? The LP is called "Jazz Patterns". (Even gray-market??) Date: September 24-26, 1970 Location: Lighthouse, Hermosa Beach, CA Label: Milestone Joe Henderson (ldr), Joe Henderson (ts), Woody Shaw (t, fh), George Cables (ep), Ron McClure (b, eb), Lenny White (d), Anthony Waters (cga) 1. Invitation - 15:30 (Bronislau Kaper, Paul Francis Webster) Everest LP 12": FS-363 - Jazz Patterns 2. Punjab - 8:30 (Joe Henderson) Everest LP 12": FS-363 - Jazz Patterns 3. Power To The People - 17:20 (Joe Henderson) Everest LP 12": FS-363 - Jazz Patterns "Punjab," "Power to the People" and the longer version of "Invitation" not part of the original release. These titles were released as bootlegs on the Everest label with the Henderson originals erroneously titled, "Lofty" and "What's Mine is Yours," respectively. Quote
jeffcrom Posted July 14, 2009 Report Posted July 14, 2009 I came across an old rec.music.bluenote post mentioning that a take of "Black Narcissus" exists from the "In Japan" session not included on the box, as well as the bass/drums solos edited out from that album's take of "Blue Bossa". Anyone know why the set was issued this way? it's fantastic regardless, but just kind of strange it's incomplete. I'm not 100% sure, but I think that "Out 'n In" was mislabeled "Black Narcissus" on the original Japanese issue (but not on Milestone). I'm basing that on the Lord discography, which is a little confusing on this point - but that's what it looks like. As far as I can tell, everything that's ever been issued from this show is on the Milestone box set, although it stands to reason that lots more was recorded that night. Quote
CJ Shearn Posted July 15, 2009 Author Report Posted July 15, 2009 thanks Jeff. Attention Mosaic Quote
Hardbopjazz Posted July 15, 2009 Report Posted July 15, 2009 Anybody know? Would love to hear more Joe material from this era. And speaking of live Joe from the 70's, anybody know if this 'Everest' LP (of dubious origin) ever made it to CD?? The LP is called "Jazz Patterns". (Even gray-market??) Date: September 24-26, 1970 Location: Lighthouse, Hermosa Beach, CA Label: Milestone Joe Henderson (ldr), Joe Henderson (ts), Woody Shaw (t, fh), George Cables (ep), Ron McClure (b, eb), Lenny White (d), Anthony Waters (cga) 1. Invitation - 15:30 (Bronislau Kaper, Paul Francis Webster) Everest LP 12": FS-363 - Jazz Patterns 2. Punjab - 8:30 (Joe Henderson) Everest LP 12": FS-363 - Jazz Patterns 3. Power To The People - 17:20 (Joe Henderson) Everest LP 12": FS-363 - Jazz Patterns "Punjab," "Power to the People" and the longer version of "Invitation" not part of the original release. These titles were released as bootlegs on the Everest label with the Henderson originals erroneously titled, "Lofty" and "What's Mine is Yours," respectively. I have it on CD, but I believe it is not a legit label. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted July 15, 2009 Report Posted July 15, 2009 I have it on CD, but I believe it is not a legit label. What label is it?? (if I might ask) -- but only if it is a real "silver" disc. No interest in CDR's here. I own the original LP (which I know, appears to be just as 'legit' (not) as the CD you have), so it's really a question of wanting the material from my preferred media source (CD). I do own the box set, but that version of "Power To The People" from the Everest LP is really fantastic, and unique - since no other live version of the tune was ever released (legit). Quote
CJ Shearn Posted July 15, 2009 Author Report Posted July 15, 2009 where can this disc be found? is it fair game for www.dimeadozen.org if someone would want to upload it? Quote
Hardbopjazz Posted July 15, 2009 Report Posted July 15, 2009 (edited) where can this disc be found? is it fair game for www.dimeadozen.org if someone would want to upload it? I can put it up on dime for you. Give me a few days. This is what I have. It seems somewhat different then hat you posted. I will listen to my copy and compare it. Label Everest Sept 1970 Joe Henderson- tenor sax George Cables- piano Steve Arciaca- guitar Ratso Harris- bass Michael Hyman- drums 01. Announcer 02. Invitation 30:31 03. Unknown Title 27:53 04. Announcer 0:12 I have it on CD, but I believe it is not a legit label. What label is it?? (if I might ask) -- but only if it is a real "silver" disc. No interest in CDR's here. I own the original LP (which I know, appears to be just as 'legit' (not) as the CD you have), so it's really a question of wanting the material from my preferred media source (CD). I do own the box set, but that version of "Power To The People" from the Everest LP is really fantastic, and unique - since no other live version of the tune was ever released (legit). Mine disc says Everest. Edited July 15, 2009 by Hardbopjazz Quote
Niko Posted July 15, 2009 Report Posted July 15, 2009 looks like a completely different album to me... Quote
CJ Shearn Posted July 15, 2009 Author Report Posted July 15, 2009 where can this disc be found? is it fair game for www.dimeadozen.org if someone would want to upload it? I can put it up on dime for you. Give me a few days. This is what I have. It seems somewhat different then hat you posted. I will listen to my copy and compare it. Label Everest Sept 1970 Joe Henderson- tenor sax George Cables- piano Steve Arciaca- guitar Ratso Harris- bass Michael Hyman- drums 01. Announcer 02. Invitation 30:31 03. Unknown Title 27:53 04. Announcer 0:12 cool, thanks! I have it on CD, but I believe it is not a legit label. What label is it?? (if I might ask) -- but only if it is a real "silver" disc. No interest in CDR's here. I own the original LP (which I know, appears to be just as 'legit' (not) as the CD you have), so it's really a question of wanting the material from my preferred media source (CD). I do own the box set, but that version of "Power To The People" from the Everest LP is really fantastic, and unique - since no other live version of the tune was ever released (legit). Mine disc says Everest. Quote
Hardbopjazz Posted July 15, 2009 Report Posted July 15, 2009 looks like a completely different album to me... I have to listen to it when I get home tonight. For some reason I do believe it is a different concert. I don't recall Woody Shaw on the tracks. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted July 15, 2009 Report Posted July 15, 2009 looks like a completely different album to me... Pretty sure it is entirely different. No guitar on the Everest LP, and Woody is almost definitely on there (don't have mine handy to check, but I'm almost positive he's on there). Quote
Hardbopjazz Posted July 16, 2009 Report Posted July 16, 2009 If you're on dime I will load it there most likely tonight. Quote
Hardbopjazz Posted July 16, 2009 Report Posted July 16, 2009 Some more research, This is a radio broadcast. The show is from 1977. The drummer, Michael Hyman was 17 in 1977 and the radio announcer states that Hyman is 17. On Cornet is Nat Adderley. If you're not on dime and want to hear the show send me an IM Quote
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